Doge/Kabosu

She's lived a longer life than Longcat now.

>>4798081
>blind
>can't walk on its own
but at least i can still get instagram likes!

>>4798088
fpbp

Her life was as forced as the redd*t meme

if they had even an ounce of compassion for their dog they would have euthanized her 1-2 years ago. She shits in diapers and needs a wheeled exoskeleton just to move around now. Just depressing.

>>4798091
>redd*t meme
shut the fuck up nigger tourist. doge was posted on the owner's personal blog and then spread like wildfire here before it was ever posted on reddit.

>>4798096
>>4798091
>>4798088
>>4798088
This should be obvious, but animals are incapable of being angsty suicidal faggots because they have no concept of dignity and purpose. They do not beg for death because they are a little uncomfortable or because their arrangement is embarrassing. They will walk around on nubs of bone for a decade missing half their face and never once treat death as anything but their greatest fear.

Euthanizing an animal because YOU wouldn't want to live like that is childish. Use your brain. Does the animal want to live like that? If it was that bad they would stop eating and drinking or crawl off a balcony. Some of you people are the type that would try and kill yourselves if you lost a couple of limbs and lost access to all of your hobbies, your profession, and your independence. For some of you, financial disaster too late in life to become a competitive high earner and reliably recover is suicide worthy. You do not have the primal, animal desire to simply live. Your lives are abstracted works of intellect with purpose and reason. You have become immortal things, spirits, that discard their bodies when they are useless and live on as a memory. Animals are below this.

>>4798101
Mother. Fucking. Thank you.
I make that argument all the time and people act like I'm a psychopath for saying as much.

Every time I see a new pic of her she looks 50% worse. I wish she could be around for a lot longer but at this point she really looks like a walking corpse, that poor thing, really.

I'm also slightly weird out by the attitude of those Japanese
>lookie she's blind, shits in diapers, can't walk anymore and is sniffing her dog friend I'm holding in my arms right now who died a couple hours ago teehee :)

Guess I'm 100% incompatible with that culture but to me this feels completely off

>>4798101
Animals are capable of suicide. That's essentially what "death from loneliness" is, where they basically just stop eating and just let themselves die and be sick.

But this doesn't mean that dogs /need/ to be euthanized. You can be old and sick but still enjoy life. I don't think we should decide what is best just from some internet pictures.

>>4798101
>Does the animal want to live like that?
non human animals dont have the cognitive capacity to actively "want" things. You're anthropomorphizing them

>>4798096
>>4798081
The Japanese doesn't believe in putting down pets. Watch this episode of Japanology on Dogs, it has the same type of dog as OP, in old sickly condition. I time stamped it the part.

https://youtu.be/zxMNWH9fDuc?t=1154<wbr>

>>4798137
>non human animals dont have the cognitive capacity to actively "want" things. You're anthropomorphizing them
yes, they do DUMBFUCK

its disappointing that westoids are so soulless they consider animals machines until doctor SOIstein does a heckin MRI-erino to prove there's activity in the anterior faggot gyrus indicating they're processing words as actual words when anyone who has interacted with a dog knows its self apparent that they are self aware animals that actually have thoughts, think about words, and know they exist

its such basic shit that you can talk to rats and you faggot soulless westoids refuse to belive what is in front of your eyes because then "the heckin ethical consistency implications" mean you're a bad person because your "morals" are all based on a pseudo-secular intelligence worship cult carefully constructed to mirror anti-animal semitic murder cults and depend on animals you are used to mistreating "not being like us at all"
but they are 99% like you, sorry

also, dogs smile. this is another thing that triggers you soulless bug people. dogs smile.
>no its just panting
wrong expression
>no its submission
wrong expression again
>its nervousness they're growling its...
wrong wrong and wrong. dogs smile.

anthropomorphization is the correct conclusion 99% of the time because the majority of human behavior is shared with literally every other mammal and there is almost nothing actually setting you apart from them except being slightly more sophisticated in your use of language and memory. in most ways you are actually unusually dumb for a great ape.

>>4798081
So did she end up having kids?
Being blind is quite something. I do appreciate how she can still keep up a cheerful look
>>4798124
 >Guess I'm 100% incompatible with that culture but to me this feels completely off
In fairness, that’s hardly exclusive to the Japanese

>>4798099
Sorry your forced meme wasn't popular anon

>>4798143
>anthropomorphization is the correct conclusion 99% of the time because the majority of human behavior is shared with literally every other mammal and there is almost nothing actually setting you apart from them except being slightly more sophisticated
This is schizophrenic.

>>4798099
wasn’t the original photo posted to reddit in 2010?

>>4798143
Have dogs not also evolved more muscles in the upper portion of their face so their "eyebrows" (though they lack actual like, eyebrows, more so the flesh that is in the place of eyebrows) in order to be more expressive? Domesticated animal are often quite socially intelligent. Even if they may not understand things to our level, there's still some level of connection.

>>4798187
scientific facts that make you uncomfortable do sound schizophrenic if said aggressively enough but dont worrr they’re still true

WE do not even think its 100% certain humans are self aware and exhibit free will. this is such a fact most advertising you see today is based on studies that attempted to unlock the secrets of determinism and how truly low human intelligence is.

>>4798231
Faqs
You unironically have fucking 80 year olds ditching their 4th marriage in favor of pussy, it's like they're too stupid to realize they're about to die

>>4798221
You're the pussy.
>oh boo hoo I'm so miserable I can't take it wah wah wah

>>4798277
the damage wasnt preventing it from walking, the deer just had to cope with the pain until it healed

>>4798258
why are you replying to yourself?

>>4798290
If the deer didnt have to walk it wouldnt give a shit even then
Animal existence is: Dont care stayin alive

>>4798101
>never once treat death as anything but their greatest fear.
Death isn't their greatest fear. It's getting wounded that they fear and try to avoid. The dog with half its face gone (riddled with infection also) and walking on bones is not just a little uncomfortable. It's living in agony. It keeps going only because it doesn't know to do anything else. It doesn't have the mental capacity to know it needs to walk into a hospital and ask for help. It doesn't have any capability to help itself. Humans with their higher intelligence and understanding can look at that dog and work out whether its life will be a miserable one that will never get better or if it can be helped and make the appropriate decision.
>>4798101
>Use your brain.
I am. Nothing would want to live in extreme pain for every moment of their lives with no chance of things ever getting better. That's common sense. It's kinder to put an animal to sleep if its quality of life is terrible with no hope of it improving.

>>4798101
>Euthanizing an animal because YOU wouldn't want to live like that is childish. Use your brain. Does the animal want to live like that? If it was that bad they would stop eating and drinking or crawl off a balcony.
You don't have to anthropomorphise animals to opt for euthanasia. I don't care if an animal is incapable of cognitively processing abstract concepts such as suicide and them not acting on it. What I care about is if an animal is incapable of supporting basically bodily functions. If either apply I am putting it down. Why?

Because you would be at that point directly intervening in prolonging their lifespan, which as a result means you are applying your own ethics to decide that you want to keep animal alive when it would instead naturally die.

People who euthanise an animal that would die without human intervention are not the one to own up for ethics, its people like you who cannot bear to face their own emotions of letting a pet die. You are the one placing your own emotions over animal. Not the other way round.

Imagine killing grandma without her consent just because she was blind and can't walk.

>>4798514
Animals cannot comprehend death — granted, humans can't comprehend it either ("What happens when we die?") but animals don't fear death because they don't understand that they themselves will die. They don't understand that even when mortally wounded they will die. They only understand an impulse of fear of great suffering that comes from pain. Their will to live comes from the fear of pain and nothing more. They can be in such agonizing torturous pain and yet refuse to die because they are afraid that there is a pain yet greater than that.

Animals understand that things "die", they see and deal with death quite often, but they don't have the same fear we do. Their biology commands them to fear death, but their biology does not inform them of what the experience of dying is like, so animals can only assume that it is an existence of eternal pain where nobody will ever see or hear you again. Why assume that the pain stops when you die? If the failure state is just "I stop moving and sleep forever" then why would any animal fear that? Animals like sleeping and assume they'll just wake up.

>>4798514
>>4798523
>I THINK IT HURT SO I KILL
The animal DOES NOT WANT TO DIE.

>>4798533
Yes, most animals can comprehend death.

I dont care about your half assed theory i care that animals do not seek death, end their own lives, or welcome comprehensible execution methods under these circumstances. You hardly know how their subjective experience of pain is really like and how well they adapt to it or how much it affects them. If they are not killing themselves (they are capable when they rarely choose) let them live, because generally they want to live.

>mercykillfags to their wheelchairbound grandma who is hard of sight, who wants nothing but the joy of being around them is in the vicinity.

>>4798530
ground breaking
thread is over everyone pack it up

>>4798576
>starts an argument in a thread about cute dog
>encounters a point he got no answer to
>pretends like he seen it a million times and pretends to end the discussion like a fucking redditor
Unless your dog is going through something excruciating like late stage cancer, your choice to shoot them behind the shed is just you getting bored of them.

>>4798185
>unpopular
>became a household name shitcoin worth billions

>>4798637
My bad. Thank you for understanding.
Glad we could come to common ground thanks to grandma

>>4798081
Lel, funny old crazy eyes slobber machine

>>4798101
This is something that's always struck and stood out to me when I watch sad dog rescue videos. A dog can be missing 3 limbs and just be crawling along trying to enjoy the food and weather like any other dog. Smiling and wagging.
I'm a man, but sometimes I think I can see how it would be good to learn from dogs.

>>4798550
>>I THINK IT HURT SO I KILL
The fact that you have to reduce their, very cognizant, points down to that just so you can feel like you're right shows how insincere you are.

>>4798550
>The animal DOES NOT WANT TO DIE.
And you have now just demonstrated to the class that your postion is emotionally founded. Animals don't have concepts of "wanting" like humans do, they have drives. To want something is an abstract human concept, but drives are instinctive and based on needs. A dog does not "want" to eat that chicken on your plate, it is driven by instinctive function to eat whenever it can because food is non-sustainable in the wild. It is part of the reason why dogs will kill themselves with bloat, it is a drive out of their control. Training a dog follows these principles by denying and allowing drives in return for demonstrated behavior.

You are likely defending your position so passionately and emotionally because you are trying justify your own actions with your pets current or present, a relatives maybe. Unable to come to terms with the fact that due to you or their's selfishness it prolongued a life of extended pain for a dear pet to satisfy a fear of losing them. I have met people like you before and that is typically why they hold a position like that. I feel sorry for them because while I find their choice immature and reprehensible I understand how strong a bond they form with their pets. These animals cat or dog get them though the modernity and lows in life just as my own pets did. But there is a point where you need to let go anon.

Put that deaf/blind/cripple/incontinent 19 year old chihuahua to rest and move on.

>>4798801
>current or present
Meant current or previously kek

>>4798801
you (and anyone else) doesn't know any of this for certain

>>4798811
Maybe not but it is an undeniable fact that animals feel pain, and therefore fear pain. Animals don't have wants but they do have fears. An animal that you know is in pain is constantly afraid, stressed and, you know, in pain. Maybe it doesn't want to die but by that same logic it doesn't want to live either.
You're that animals owner. It's your responsibility to take care of them. Anything that happens to them is entirely up to you. Keeping an animal in pain alive, for a prolonged period of time, when you know there's no chance of it getting better and it's only going to get worse, is selfish.
Of course this isn't a black or white issue and of course it's on a case-by-case basis but come on. Have some common sense.

30<br>little baby so desperate for a (You)

>>4798530
>>4798573
>>4798616
>>4798730
Killing a human is non-compareble to killing a dog. It is not worth considering in an argument regarding animal euthanasia as that is a completely different agrument to have regarding the worth of human life vs an animal's. It is why no anon here once argued euthanasia pluralisticly or on the basis of informed consent which libertarians champion all the time as a fundamental truth to justify murdering the surplus populations that their policies create.

If you want to go down that route you can make a vegan thread and we can all sperg there.

>>4798816
>Animals don't have wants
this is preposterous, prove it

>>4798514
>>4798137
You are an absolute retard. Dogs and cats are perfectly capable of killing themselves if they feel, yes feel, like it. A dog will literally stop eating if it is depressed or in pain enough. Same with a cat (they will usually run away and hide in a corner and die). This is actually what happened to the last surviving rescue dog that participated in search and rescue during 9/11. He got so old that he just didn't want to do his favorite activity - eating (he was a golden retriever), even though he was otherwise fairly healthy considering his age (he could even walk on his own, could still see and smell, etc. So they euthanized him. THAT is when you euthanize a dog or cat. Not because YOU feel bad.

>>4798874
That is not how that works. Anon was the first to say that animals don't "want" to die, its down to them to prove that they are capable of abstract thinking such as "wanting". But you know that is not possible and so you throw it onto other anons calling that logic out.

>>4798878
>Cats and dogs starve themselves because they want to die. No, it can't be because they caught an illness I didn't know about. It HAS to be because they want to die!

>>4798882
Yeah, this. Animals stop eating for a myriad of reasons and yes, 'depression' can be one of them. But I don't think that most animals can connect the dots between not eating and death.
>>4798878
>he got so old he didn't want to eat anymore
So he got sick, because he's an old dog. Or got a tooth infection. Or something else that made him not want to eat. But to suggest he stopped eating because he just wanted to die? That's a pretty insane claim.

>>4798881
you can't prove anything related to consciousness because it isn't defined in any meaningful way
this entire discussion is retarded and based on conjecture

>>4798894
Exactly, therefore it's unethical to force an animal to live through pain because you think it wants to live. That's some dumbass ARA shit.

>>4798881
Animals are capable of abstract thought such as wanting, questioning, planning, and expecting. Sorry. They are not conditioning based robots and all of thought did not start exactly when some monkey started verbalizing it. That’s not fact, its the secular wests shoddy replacement for genesis (which originally said animals have the same souls as humans because abrahamic faiths are vedic/zoroasterian hybrid ripoffs)

>>4798897
Actually it would be unethical to kill them as well because you can not prove but must assume they can understand something as simple as dying. The whistler sled dogs sure did when they attacked the guy that tried to shoot them.

Instead you should give them pain killers and assume they’re like us - apparent suffering like loss of mobility doesnt actually cause them to suffer for more than a week or two and then they get used to it unless theyre worthless angsty midwits that would never breed unless forced.

>>4798900
>you can not prove but must assume they can understand something as simple as dying
Because I assume they don't understand is is exactly why I think that death is more ethical than forcing an animal to live in agony.
>Instead you should give them pain killers
If their pain can be alleviated by something as simple as pain killers then those situations aren't the ones I'm talking about.

>>4798902
If painkillers dont work the animal is already dying, it’s a mercy kill, dog in the OP is fine
>i assume they dont
You should assume they do because they demonstrate understanding of all but the most technologically advanced execution methods once they witness them in action on their own species

>>4798081
Some of the people ITT would cream if they saw how livestock 'sanctuaries' treat the animals in their care. In reality it's neglectful and borderline abusive, but the animals are alive so it must be good, right? Right girls?...Right?

>>4798902
>i assume they dont because murder is cheaper than palliative care
FTFY
“But the kindest mercies of the wicked are cruel”

>>4798905
animals love every condition they are in chud. why can't realize they want to live? yeah they look like they're suffering...but you have to realize, they love it!

>>4798905
If the prosthetic hurts they need a refit/redesign and possibly anesthetics, opioids, or nerve ablation. Not murder. Imagine killing a person because they’re uncomfortable with a stump leg. How about we kill miserable virgins too? RIP… you!

>>4798905
Actually I'm going to elaborate on why something like this (Putting a prosthetic leg on a hooved animal) fucking sucks.
Unlike carnivorans, ungulates can't live with only 3 legs. Dogs and cats can learn to balance and be happy with only 3 legs. Because of their weight, and just how they're built, heavy hooved animals (cows and horses) just can't do that. So, if a hooved animal has an injury to a leg or a foot that is so severe it won't heal in a decent enough time, the animal has to be put down.
Why is this?
Well, like I said, they cannot survive on three legs alone. This is because taking weight off one foot for a significant amount of time would make the animal shift all it's weight to it's other three feet. This will eventually cause severe, painful issues with the other three feet. And I do mean painful. Issues such as the hoof wall coming away from the lamina, which is painful enough, but will always result in near-constant infections. Basically, it can't happen.
So, what's the solution? Amputation? But they can't put all their weight on their three feet, so, what do you do?
Oh a prosthetic, of course!
Except, no.
The contact point of the prosthetic to the actual leg will eventually result in painful sores, causing the animal to shift their weight onto their three uninjured legs, eventually resulting in what i've already described.
Furthermore, prosthetics don't allow the animal to actually live in herds. The other members of the herd will bully the disabled animal, and injure it further. This is just how they are. Any roughhousing can also break or fuck up the prosthetic. So, they have to be separated. There is a reason why you never see herd animals with prosthetics interacting with herds of their own.
This is abusive to herd animals. These animals need herds to be happy, again, it's just how they are. In some places of the world it is literally illegal to keep horses and cows completely on their own, that's how fucked up it is.

>>4798923
>b-but they're alive! they're alive so its okay!!! YOU DONT KNOW WHATS IN THEIR HEAD!!! THEY'RE JUST LIKE PEOPLE!!!
If you unironically think that this kind of shit is okay, you have the same level of understanding about the world as a child.

>>4798923
Most people keep lone horses without issue. Herd animals are smart enough to have another species in their little herd. Stop appealing to nature. It’s a fallacy specifically for this reason - there is no logical difference between that BS and saying deer need to be eaten by wolves to be fulfilled just because thats how it is in the wild.

Also see >>4798916 just take care of the amputation like you would for a human instead of slapping a peg leg on and walking away. Properly fit and designed prosthetics on properly treated limbs can support a whole horse or cow without pain.

You’re not arguing in favor of murder. You’re arguing against half assed medical care.

>>4798931
>Most people keep lone horses without issue. Herd animals are smart enough to have another species in their little herd.
>Properly fit and designed prosthetics on properly treated limbs can support a whole horse or cow without pain.
Uninformed retard detected.

>>4798932
Both of those things are true. You dont need two horses. A horse can bond with any animal including a human. And prosthetics can be quite good if you actually do them right.

>>4798943
You do need two horses. Or at least two equines, a donkey will do fine, but a horse wont be happy if it's only herdmates are goats or cows, and anyone who says otherwise better not own a horse that they're abusing because they're too poor or too lazy to own more than one.
>And prosthetics can be quite good if you actually do them right.
See >>4798923.

>>4798945
>appeal to nature
>you cant because i cheap out on vet care
yep its a rightoid. stop eating meat btw.

>>4798947
>leftoid shamelessly shows xhis ass
I just got here and you already lost

>>4798993
>u r wrong cuz left
Left wing individuals are more intelligent on average and more likely to be influential world leaders

>>4798899
>Animals are capable of abstract thought such as wanting, questioning, planning, and expecting.
Prove it then.

>>4798101
unfathomably based. people get uncomfortable with the maintanence old age and sickness bring and justify it as "dignity". Also a lot of people put down dogs that stop eating but dogs can stop eating from a lot of things that are simple fixes. you killed your dog because it had a stomach ache not because you cared about its dignity.

>>4798998
Leftists/liberals are overwhelmingly mentally ill and suffering from health conditions

>>4799051
doesn't make what he said wrong

>>4799100
>yeah im literally crazy but so what
lol

>>4799110
and there's plenty of rightoids that are crazy. you want to start by examining all the incels that light up malls/schools because they can't breed?

>>4799051
>smart people more likely to be mentally ill
yes and livestock are always happy if they have food, sleep, and sex hence the common insults “sheeple” and “cattle” reserved for people who call landing on the moon when they’re still poor “a waste of money”

>>4798748
if you lost three limbs you'd probably smile and laugh sometimes too.
being traumatized or maimed or crippled doesn't make you somehow mystically unable to ever enjoy anything.
People in death camps tell jokes and laugh at them and look forward to meals.

>>4798625
No one even cares about doge anymore. Go suck elons dick

>>4799164
4chan users would kill themselves if they lost even 2 limbs unless they actually fell for some meme religion that needed a suicide ban to stop all the adherents from punching an early ticket to the afterlife

>>4799182
>leftcel temper tantrum
>facts

>>4799182
>says the side with an omnipresent metaphorical (sometimes literal) gun to the head of anyone that goes against their narrative(s)

>>4799182
>rightoid
I have a sneaking suspicion you are the britbong that believes the Labour party is right wing. You have been perusing a lot of threads recently.

>>4798101
Based and life piled, death is cringe.

>>4799580
yeah bro completely natural. the dog totally isn't suffering at all.

>>4798081
Poor thing. Because of one meme picture she's now being kept alive well past her expiration date

>>4798101
had a point until the last 2 sentences became /x/ gibberish.

>>4799877
if thats /x/ gibberish to you, you’re a schizoid

To everyone else its a fairly practical viewpoint
The body is temporary but the legacy is enduring

>>4799887
>To everyone else its a fairly practical viewpoint
no it's a cope that makes you feel better about death

>>4799890
No it is part of the cycle of having descendants and preparing the next generation to be better off than where you started. The memory shit being eternal life is not literal, it is metaphor for the concept of devoting your life's cause to your progeny.

>>4799931
none of that has anything to do with your previous babbling about spirits

>>4799933
>doesnt get this basic metaphor
>thinks everyone is the same person
These things vote and breed…

>>4799935
>you can't follow my incoherent schizo ramblings? y-you're the dumb one!
yawn

>>4799933
I am not that anon. I am abridging the new age schizo babble for you.

>wow, doge is still happy with life, has a loving family and adoring fans, even at old age
>KILL KILL KILL KILL

>cant walk
>cant see
>lived a lifespan 10 times that of wild/feral dogs
>stuck on medication
>needs human made apparatus for any form of movement
>would have died naturally long ago without her owner intervening and artificially prolonging
>parades her out on socials as a remnant of a bygone era
>AWWWW WHAT A LOVELY LIFE SHE HAS AND WHAT A CARING OWNER!!!1!!!1! TAKE A MILLION UPVOTES!!!!1!

What a truly autistic and entertaining thread. Thank you all for your service :)

>>4798101
if the animal is in pain, it is our duty to eat it

>>4800249
>pets
You mean residential livestock.

it's sad to see her waste away like this

>>4799164
>being traumatized or maimed or crippled doesn't make you somehow mystically unable to ever enjoy anything.
Depends. If you're in pain all the time, it sure makes it difficult to enjoy things or be happy.

DARKNESS

IMPRISONING ME

ABSOLUTE HORROR

I CANNOT LIVE

I CANNOT DIE

TRAPPED IN MYSELF

BODY MY HOLDING CELL

>>4798101
>letting an animal suffer is okay because animals don't kill themselves
nope.

hnhnnhhhg h I'm
hnh
I'm so fucking old
nhnhgnnhgnh h

>>4801402
>The decaying face
>Wearing a fucking diaper

>>4801402
Post the one where the owner makes her walk like marionette.

>>4798142
Ironic, since they off themselves for something as silly as "honor". Just put the thing out of its misery ffs, this is animal abuse at this point.

>>4798277
I guarantee you that deer had searing pain in its legs with every step and would have liked nothing more to die.

>>4799961
>doge is still happy with life
Citation fucking needed

>>4798573
You've never had a family member with ALS have you anon

>>4801402
awwww look how happy and full of life she is!

>>4798101
>never once treat death as anything but their greatest fear.
I'm not sure most animals truly understand death. They surely understand harm.
>If it was that bad they would stop eating
I had two dogs, when one died the other one waited for around two weeks before realizing the other one would never come back. So layed down and refused to eat or drink anything for days until we had to take it to the vet. Vet told us the heart's animal was abnormally big and had to be euthanized.

>>4798124
Life is fleeting
Death is final
Don't be a dick, a life of pain is still life

>>4798849
>Can't bring myself to put dog down
>Don't want to clean up the mess either
Wtf just be a fish/crustacean/herp

Oh yeah she's so happy.... look, she really wants to live.

>>4801638
someone put her out of her misery

>>4801570
That is kinda ironic
>>4801593
I think most people can say that anon

>>4801638
literally looks dead here lmao

>>4798081
This is a prety unflattering photo. I think my day is worse from seeing it. The eyes, the faded fur, slumped-over positioning of the head. Sad to see my teenhood memes that made me laugh end up like this. But since her owners are pretty well-off, at least she's probably getting cared of to the best of their abilities.

>>4798101
We euthanized our dog several days after he had stopped being able to walk, had trouble relieving himself and had little energy left. He was already old and keeping him alive would've just been prolonging his suffering.

>>4800325
Why was she so yellow?
Are we sure it's the same dog?

>>4802180
Just lighting and image editing.

>>4798101
I am glad I took my 17 year old Silky Terrier/Jack Russell cross to the vet and he died peacefully in his sleep because he just had heart failure and wasn't in pain.

>>4801981
I don't think you can get a flattering pic at that age.

>>4802285
Or with cripples in general. Look at any photo with some dude in crutches or a wheelchair and you will see it.

>>4802295
They are forming a suicide pact.

>>4802295
this guy is like the mother theresa of shibas

>>4802180
> Why was she so yellow?
Well anon, you see, in the far east…

>>4802295
At least she has someone to keep her company I guess

this thread is making me sad and I don't even like dogs

>>4798101
This, you only euthanize an animal if it is actively in pain that can't be cured (or will soon be), not because YOU think he might be a depressed faggot like yourself.

>>4802721
You think these dogs are happy >>4802295 ? Do you actually think they're happy animals?

>>4798137
>non human animals dont have the cognitive capacity to actively "want" things
Then what is this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s50<wbr>vvwTystA

>>4802726
>Do you actually think they're happy animals?
Why not?

>>4803685
This reminds me of this: https://youtu.be/IpDUnAD_ykc

shoutout to all pitybros. never stop sharing the sauce.

>>4802726
What is "happy"?

https://www.columbia.edu/~col8/lobs<wbr>terarticle.pdf

It is self evident that dogs can be happy.
>inb4 WELLLL ACKSHUALLY… NO… I AM SHUCH A DEEP FINKER, WHERE LABORATORY EFIDENTH?
Well ACKSHFUALLYTTTTHHHHHPFT you cant be proven to be conscious either, period, fucking lifeless fedora tipping pop sci pseud faggot

>>4798101
I agree with all of this. Some fat bitch told us to put down our dog because of hip dysplasia, but she is still happy and running three years later, what the fuck.

Are humans evil? Are vets to be trusted? I am still genuinely fucking annoyed about it.

This thread makes me feel better about my cat passing naturally at home. I thought I was too late to euthanize but maybe it wasn't necessary.

Vets could do 100x more but they don’t.

“I’m sorry the surgery is too risky and the best thing is to put them down”

Fucking kill yourself

>>4803776
I feel this is the case too. A lot like regular doctors

>>4798101
True, animals CAN kill themselves if they want to but the vast majority prefer to try and live as lpng as they can.

Death always have a cause. Heart failure kidney failure, starvation, thirst. How far you can go to keep the body alive that would have died long ago and justify it?

>>4803776
they don't because even if they do perform the surgery, it genuinely is risky as fuck. why put the owner and pet through that turmoil? plus, it would cost a fuckton and the owners would definitely want to sue or freak the fuck out if that 20 grand spent on a sliiiiim chance of being life saving failed.

I can't judge because I don't know how Doge's day to day is like. For me personally, I helped my girl in her final years. I kept her alive as long as I knew she kept wanting to go. But when she was done, the sign was very clear. She stopped eating, just closed her eyes, and waited. Sure, I could've probably kept her going, but I promised not to make her suffer because I was afraid.

So maybe Doge is still living happily. At least one can only hope.

>one can only hope
More like one can only cope

>>4804056
>why put the owner and pet through that turmoil?
Why put human families through the turmoil when grandpa needs a heart surgery? Better just let him fucking DIE.

>>4804232
Humans and animals aren't on the same level you fucking mouthbreather. How many times.

>>4802180
Owner takes pictures of Kabosu practically every day, you can check how she got old (the dog, the owner barely appears in the pics)
https://kabochan.blog.jp/

>>4803695
Because of living in physical pain?

>>4801581
>I guarantee you that deer had searing pain in its legs with every step and would have liked nothing more to die.
How many animals can commit suicide?
I know dolphins can voluntarily stop breathing, underwater, if they feel sad.

>>4798523
So taking animals to the vet when they're sick is cruel and unnatural if the illness would have killed them in the wild, without human intervention?
Murder fetishists like you need to be barred from owning animals.

>>4804299
painkillers exist and are likely being given out because rationally an animal that is not a fedora tipping nihilist pseud will take living longer with drugs than committing suicide
>What pseuds think the doge is going through
>OMG I CAN NO LONGER LIVE IN NATURAL DIGNITY I WONT DO IT! TIME TO DIE AND RETURN TO THE VOID BECAUSE MY OWN SUFFERING IS THE CLOSEST THING THIS COLD WORTHLESS UNIVERSE HAS TO AN OBJECTIVE MORAL! MY LIFE IS LESS PATHETIC IF IT ENDS NOW! WHY WONT IT END? I AM SUCH A PITIABLE CREATURE I NO LONGER EXPERIENCE THE GLORY OF YOUTH THIS IS CLEARLY SUFFERING I HAVE NO DIGNITY

>What the doge is going through
>Heheheh feel good treats, ok now damn why didnt i start supporting my bodyweight with a blanket on wheels earlier this is comfy *drools*

>>4804300
don't reply to bait anon, be better

>>4803767
you did the right thing, I'm sure your cat appreciated every extra moment it was with you :)

>>4804304
You clearly have a bone to pick with some imaginary pseuds in your head if my short and obvious answer provoked such an intense reaction from you. It's not about dignity, it's about physical suffering, which painkillers don't provide 24/7 relief from (but they do provide side effects).

>>4801998
>We murdered our dog several days after he had stopped being able to walk, had trouble relieving himself and had little energy left. He was already old and keeping him alive would've just been inconvenient to us.
>But i could tell that deep in his heart poor wittle doggo wanted to be killed, and would hang himself if he could, all I did was help him fulfill his suicidal fantasies! I'm such a good person.
This is what you are actually saying you fucking psychopath. In a sane world you would not be allowed to own pets.

>>4804299
ah yes, the sentiment that we should kill anything with chronic pain, truly a noble and merciful stance!

>>4804315
I mean, I occasionally see posts from people in chronical pain online and they're never about how they're thankful to be alive.

Knowing the canadians ITT would mercy kill me in particular because of my EVIL and UNBEARABLE "pain and suffering" (protip: you go numb to it if it's not nerve damage) is clearly too much for anyone to be allowed to live with makes me never want to give up my guns. When the anti-suffering squads come to purge my contaminated existence from their perfect world, I have an illegally converted AR-15 and 300 green tips stashed in STANAGS waiting for them. Also a few 20 round CZ 9mms stuffed full of civil defense for the light body armor wearing fucks.

As long as no one ever transfers this insane "i must do what is right and kill whoever is not living a perfect life" shit to humanity these weapons will collect dust

>>4804317
No one is killing you. You're the one who's probably advocating to remove that possibility from the people who might want that because of your own fear of death. And also coming up with schizo dystopian scenarios in your head.

Honestly, I think it's some sort of subconscious psychological distinction. Some people are more afraid of death, while others are more afraid of suffering. Everyone is afraid of both of those things, but the strength of each of these fears determines whether one would advocate for euthanasia or not.

>>4804319
Children fear death
Adults fear death
Stunted bourgie manchildren only fear suffering

>>4804316
then why don't you reach out to help them commit suicide? or even offer to shoot them in the head yourself? Do you enjoy watching them suffer or something? Not encouraging people living in constant pain to an hero is pretty self-centered behavior.

>>4804320
I certainly think you're stunted in some way to turn this fundamental matter of human condition into a cheap way to make yourself feel superior to someone.
>>4804321
It's their own choice. I won't judge them if they go for it.

>>4804328
>I won't judge them if they go for it.
I'm judging you for being in a position to help them end their suffering and choosing to watch them live in pain.

>>4804349
Yeah, I notice you guys tend to be way more judgemental and preachy than the opposite. Making it ironic how you fantasize about your ideological opponents forcing their beliefs on you when you're the one more likely to do that.

>>4804299
>Because of living in physical pain?
Death is worse than physical pain by a magnitude of infinity. Nobody should be in any hurry to die, except politicians.

The real ethical dilemma is whether to devote copious time and energy to a blatantly hopeless individual, or devote it to younger animals that suffer instead. That's something that can only be answered on an individual basis.

>>4804316
If killing oneself was the better option, then they would've already done so

>>4804431
>Death is worse than physical pain by a magnitude of infinity.
I never really saw it that way. I understand the basis behind this line of thinking, but I almost never felt this way. To me, it makes perfect sense why someone would die to avoid suffering.
>>4804434
Not everyone has the drive to. Suicide requires a certain level of impulsiveness.

>>4798137
not true faggot my cats 'want' to cuddle in bed with me and eat wet food

>This dog is clearly in a lot of pain and can't do regular dog things. The dog is a dog and can't comprehend the situation it's in. It is confused. In this case keeping it alive for clicks and views is selfish and cruel
>DOES THAT MEAN THAT YOU WANT TO KILL DISABLED PEOPLE????? HUH??????? YOU WANT DISABLED PEOPLE TO DIE????
You people are so disingenuous and insincere its unreal. None of you give a fuck about disabled people. You just want to feel a little better about forcing your disabled dog to live an unnaturally long life because you couldn't bear to let them go. Comparing animals to disabled people is retarded and anthropomorphizing the animals is even more so.

>>4804766
these people literally have sex with their animals, what do you think

>>4798101
I got to watch a frog jump off a building and kill itself like 7 years ago

>>4804582
>Suicide requires a certain level of impulsiveness.
In other words, selfishness.

It seems she finally passed away.

https://kabochan.blog.jp/archives/5<wbr>1831907.html

>>4804303
If they cant fucking walk or see of course you retard. When your dog becomes a Doctor Octopus cosplay you know you have placed your own emotional sensibilities over the welfare of an animal. There is no ambiguity at that point whether you are artificially prolonging their life or not.

Use common sense faggot.

It's common sense enough to continue that story until after her death.

>>4798142
>The Japanese doesn't believe in putting down pets.
Really? Depressing

i can't believe this thread somehow mercy killed it

>>4804880
>>4805072
Frogs are effectively blind.

reminder that she wanted to die because she was in pain

>>4798101
My cat had arthritis in her jaws and had to be syringe fed, but reacted with desperate head thrashing whenever it came time to eat. Started losing lots of weight because her food would come out with her drool.
Kinda felt like it was time to euthanise her tbqhwy

>>4805110
She's in a better place now.
Out of the clutches of a heartless owner that got addicted to the social media attention.

>>4798142
westerners worship death as ending suffering, but not everybody thinks suffering is just bad, at least the japanese don't maxximize the pain and then eat the dog like the chinese probably would

>>4798142
>the whining from pain as he's forced to walk
>the convulsion even when resting
jesus christ

>>4805066
this thread killed her. fuck you OP.

>>4805066
It's finally over.

Farewell Kabosu, you are free from the shackles of this moral coil.

>>4798081
>>4799580
>>4801402
>>4801638
>>4805115
the poor dog looks terrible and genuinely in pain
may she finally rest. RIP

>>4805066
At least she's no longer in pain.

>>4805072
Soo he placed the frog there and had it kill itself for lolz? fucking faggot

>>4805115
I agree.
I fucking hate when we have to put down a dog but we do it before they reach that level of misery.
Clearly being held alive that long for Internet fame.

F

>>4805066
>it's real
F
meme magicians, I kneel

imagine being such a seething, blackpilled permavirgin zoomer/galpha incel that you rage at doge

>>4798101
ANONS CAN BE SMART!!!
GOD BLESS, THERE IS HOPE

>>4798573
i saw the state of my gf's 90 y/o grandma with dementia and i would absolutely pull the trigger if it was legal. btw in the rare glimpses of lucidity she asks to just let her die

>>4805066
Rip. A beautiful animal who brought happiness and was loved by so many.

>>4798091
Every life is forced, no one asked to be part of this nightmarish shit.

>>4798101
Based
You can always use the geriatric care argument for animals as well

>>4798101
>>calling someone childish because he doesn't conform to your idealogy
>but animals are incapable of being angsty suicidal faggots because they have no concept of dignity and purpose.
So in other words you are literally animal?
I agree with you in that case, uou are indeed wild animal devoid of humanity.
>You do not have the primal, animal desire to simply live.
Its called spark of humanity.
>Your lives are abstracted works of intellect with purpose and reason.
Life has no purpose or reason, save for personal goals, its just is.
>You have become immortal things, spirits.
>live on as a memory.
Memories are mortal, literal retard.
>Animals are below this.
So is "people" like you,. faggot.

>>4805198
Every second alive is worth it.
There is no reward for killing animals earlier for your emotional comfort.
>>4798101
A cheer to you.

>>4804232
I mean we do exactly that when we switch old people to hospice

>>4805225
There is no reward for forcing an animal to live through pain for your emotional comfort either.

>>4805207
Yeah man just let an amputated hooved animal live, surely it hasn't been documented and researched that its a very shitty thing to do

>>4805115
She could have been dead for months and nobody would be able to tell the difference. Probably only reported dead now because the body started to rot too badly

>>4805228
>for your emotional comfort either.
It's a fuckton lot more work and emotional drain on the owner to respect its full lifespawn. The narcissism is on your side, your projection is a cope.
You signed for it when you adopted it, that was your responsibility.

>>4798187
>everything that doesn't fit or goes against my dogmatic world view is schizophrenic.
You meant heretic?
And you and your fanatical kind are not human, you are something else, more or less degenerate offshoot like downies and criminals.

>>4804300
>How many animals can commit suicide?
Normalfags sometimes can, when they get way too sad.

>>4804304
>muh nihilism le bad
So what kind of nutjob dumbfuck are you, religious or idealogical?
And you sound like someone who never experienced enough suffering but really fucking should.

>>4804431
Set your hand ablaze then if its this case.

>>4804972
>you are selfish if you put yourself and your needs above some idiotic ideals
God, idealogues and religious cunts are one of worst things that happened with humanity as they are nothing but curse and source of never ending bullshit.

>>4805236
And you're putting yourself through emotional and financial strain for emotional comfort. Respectfully, no u. I don't adopt animals knowing I'm going to force them through pain because euthanisation is upsetting to me.

>>4805066
It's for the best.
Sticky when?

>>4805233
>This just in new documents and research just arrived, but for my argument instead
Your move.

>>4805225
>Every second alive is worth it.
Only if you are slave to self preservation instinct.
In other words you legit subhuman.

>>4805207
Normalfaggotry is not smart and no amount of believing very hard will change that.

>>4798945
No vet worth their salt would ever put prosthetics on a hooved animal due to how abusive it is. Any vet that would even attempt is already a shitty, cheap vet just in it for the money.

>>4805227
Hospice is still death from natural causes.
Putting down a dog is more akin to switching off a respirator and maybe giving the patient a few extra doses "for the pain".
I've done that a lot, by the way. Always with consent, mind you.

>>4805258
The problem is that the end of a remaining amputated limb does not have the proper tissue to bear weight the way the natural limb does. You can listen to human amputees talking about getting their prosthetic legs, they will talk about the adjustments and the pain involved in getting the limb to tolerate the pressure inside the prosthetic. Even after an amputee has gone through several re-fittings and gotten used to it they will still have days where it’s painful and they need to leave the prosthetic off and use crutches, a wheelchair, or just rest for a day or two.

Horses are roughly 5 times the weight of a human. That is A LOT of pressure on tissue not meant to be a weight bearing surface.
Horses cannot stay off their feet for prolonged periods of time. A veterinarian will tell you that if a horse remains lying down for 8 hours for any reason they are at risk for damage to their internal organs, at 24 hours they have a very slim chance of surviving. Horses cannot use crutches or a wheelchair if their prosthetic becomes sore or painful. A horse also cannot tell you where it hurts so you can adjust the padding accordingly.

When a horse injures a leg to the point that it cannot bear any weight, the stress put on the opposite leg creates the risk that the good leg will develop what is known as “Founder”. Founder is (put simply) when the bone inside the hoof separates from the outer hoof. Founder on its own can cause a horse to have to be euthanized.

Please go ahead, refute.

>>4805291
Don't mind if I do. The initial argument is: should an animal life be allowed to continue despite sustaining life long debilitation due to one cause of another, such as age or injury. You argue that horses are one animal that if they sustained injury to their leg it is effectively a death sentence and rightfully so due to the sheer dependence a horse or any large size animal has upon their legs. You are arguing in this case the animal should be euthanized, as the alternative is a much worse state for the creature.

Despite your points on the lack of effectiveness of prosthetics, I however believe that despite how bad modern prosthetics are having something there is better than nothing. I admit I am no expert on handling horses, but I believe that giving the horse the bare minimum with extra padding and pain killers is better than just putting the beast down. Yes, it won't be at tip top form, yeah it'd prefer its life before, but it has a better chance gaining back its life while it's alive with ever developing technologies than it is dead in the ground.

>>4798081
Good night sweet price
mods sticky this shit

>>4805317
Painkillers do nothing in the long term (since you want them to live long term) They are only a temporary solution that can also make things worse: increased tolerance = larger doses = addiction = overdose
an animal also cannot tell you whether the painkillers are even working. Besides you completely disregarded the fact that padding won't help, humans with prosthetics regularly take them off even if they have the best kind of padding. You cannot do that with horses.

Stop being retarded thinking painkillers are some kind of a panacea for terminally ill patients. Might as well cryo yourself right now if you think its better being alive than dying when no technology exists to help you

>>4805341
Oh please painkillers are just to help it cope and you're not going to give more than the regular dose for an animal that size because
>Damn jimmy that horse is neighing more than regular better give it the XL pills just so it can get some peace tonight
So no way of the worse extremes. In this hypothetical scenario you give the horse a gradual decreasing regime of meds so it can live with a peg leg.
Padding will help to a degree, I'm not pretending that I'm a medical expert but any physical support is better than just jamming a stick in there and renaming the poor thing lieutenant.

Speaking of prosthetics, they have made more ground over the past 50 years for horses and it's not like it's going to stop anytime soon since people still love the big animal.

The overall point is the animal can survive and live a life with even shitty prosthetics. Don't picture it like it has only its head remaining attached to life support, If it can do the bare minimum amount of exercise, it can live. The pain will eventually numb.

>>4805352
the pain isnt the only fucking issue you fucking troglodyte

>>4805352
>The overall point is the animal can survive and live a life with even shitty prosthetics.
Hooved animals can't for reasons already put forward, reasons you retards have yet to provide any actual argument against.
Putting a hooved animal into a prosthetic is abuse. End of story.

>>4805252
>>you are selfish if you put yourself and your needs above ideals
by definition, yes
you seem pretty triggered by the fact that suicide is a purely selfish act

>>4805359
>>4805375
They can survive a long life with a prosthetic and proper treatment. Good modern prosthetics take note of weight adjustment to prevent lameness, the main issue is that it's incredibly expensive and your horse can never be ridden again (which is great for the horse).
If you can't deal with the expenses, don't buy a horse.

>>4805383
>They can survive a long life with a prosthetic and proper treatment.
They can't, for reasons already stated.
>Good modern prosthetics take note of weight adjustment to prevent lameness
They don't, because that's not how it works.
>the main issue is that it's incredibly expensive
The main issue is that it doesn't work, for reasons already stated.

>>4805381
only if your ideals aren't pointless garbage a la chrustcuck cattle suffering for the sake of it "ideals"

>>4805015
>oh woe is me, my legs have been made frail, and my eyes have clouded over with years of living! That I, who was once a great noble beast, have been reduced to such a state of infirmity is truely one of life's greatest humiliations. To be seen this way, so weak, so dependant, so suffering from the pains of age, is more than I can bear. Please master, send me to God so that I may be with my ancestors, see my mother and father in eternity, and end the agony that is now called day to day life. I yearn for the sweet release of death master, please, deliver me from this world of suffering
This is what you imagine goes on in an old dog's mind and you are mentally ill.

>>4804766
>Comparing animals to disabled people is retarded
I often compare downies to particularly smart dogs, fuck off faggot.

>>4805260
>Only if you are slave to self preservation instinct.
Which nearly all animals are you moron.

>>4805398
>NO! I want to live! Despite my frail bones and my constant pain I, a dog, am able to comprehend the fragility and beauty of life and how much I desperately want to keep going despite my terrible pain and incontinence and inability to play or even interact with other dogs or people!!
This is what you imagine goes on in an old dog's mind and you are mentally ill.

>>4805224
nta but
>Its called spark of humanity.
actually I believe in something called the Dongle of Loss and it's exactly as real and defineable as whatever the fuck you just typed except that is always defines you as a faggot
>Life has no purpose or reason, save for personal goals, its just is.
That's exactly what they're saying you illiterate retard.
>everything else is a no u
Sorry anon but I'm going to have to classify you as terminally stupid.

>>4805255
>And you're putting yourself through emotional...strain for emotional comfort
what?

Why are Americlaps so obsessed with "putting animals down". If you were very old but not terminally ill or actually dying or anything would you still want to be put out of your misery like a damaged workhorse? You know, your blind dog probably still quite likes being alive and takes joy in moments with you. Just because its furs lost its lustre and its a victim of the passing of time doesn't mean you should just kill it.
>noooo it needs things to help walk and is in discomfort, it must DIE

>>4805391
>only if your ideals aren't pointless garbage a la chrustcuck cattle suffering for the sake of it "ideals"
i don't know what you are talking about, do you suffer from schizophrenia? Or maybe you just need an internet break?

>>4805411
i guess it depends on the situation, if the dog is sick but still has a lot of energy it will suffer, but if the dog is old as shit and blind and can barely walk it probably won't have the energy to feel frustrated about it, it will just sleep 20 hours a day and be happy to be petted or eat food, some animals when they are too old just stop eating and die peacefully

>>4805404
Nope. All that goes on in an older dog's mind is
>hungry = eat food
>bored = play (too old)
>pain = bad
>owner = happy
They do not comprehend death like you are I do, and do not want to die. Anything else is anthropomorphizing le heckin doggerino fur baby.

>>4805413
name that "ideal" that's worth pointlessly humiliating yourself by living like a suffering husk

>>4798101
Animals don't understand the causal relationship between eating and not dying, they just do it on instinct. They are not even aware that there will one day be an end to their lifespan, they live because that is all they know how to do. Good post.

>>4805066
Sad to see it because of how iconic they were but it's for the best
RIP doge

>>4805416
They don't want to live either. Assuming they do is anthropomorphizing le heckin doggerino furbaby.
>Pain = bad
>Stressed = bad
>Confused = bad
Just in case you forgot.

I think you mouthbreathers need to learn the pretty major difference between an old dog having arthritis and cataracts but still clearly happy and still able to be a dog and live their life and....this >>4801638. The two are not even remotely comparable.

>>4801638
If someone told me that dog in this picture died and someone dug it out for shit and giggles I'd believe.

>>4803778
you dont even know me in real life lmao

>>4804604
theyre just seeking warmth and food to maintain their bodies, to be able to want things you need self awareness. maybe dolphins and great apes are able to

>>4801638
> she really wants to live.
yeah, like a dog can think like it should hide its feelings just to make its master happy, faggot as long as he is breating he is happy. faggot even if he does like his master no dog has no power to hide its feeling just for the sake of it, he is happy here and youre a fucking nigger.

ALSO FUCK YOU MODS STICKY THE BETTER THREAD, YOU WILL DIE IF YOU DONT

>>4805110
Even Bobby G weeps…
>>4805432
Beautiful, thanks for this
>>4805476
I don’t think there’s ever been a pinned thread on this board

>>4805483
>I don’t think there’s ever been a pinned thread on this board
well they should do it now, doge has been a big part of meme community not just for 4chan but the whole internet, maybe harambe was not pinned but doge is stil larger than him, eiter way they should do it.

>>4798101
>keeping a pet in pain and suffering because you're a weak willed schizo
sad to see how many retards agree with this take

>>4805443
>They don't want to live either.
Except they do. There is no point of living to an animal; they just do it. They are hardwired to desire continued life for themselves.
>>4805443
>>Pain = bad
>>Stressed = bad
>>Confused = bad
pointless because all is superceeded by survival instinct, which even negative experiences help drive

>>4805439
look buddy, if you want to die I'm not here to change that, but you should accept that suicide takes zero account into the consideration of other people and their wants/needs, and is a 100% self-centered act, unless you compulsively rape babies or something

>>4805507
>thinks a dog can yearn for death
>calling others schizo
el oh el

>>4805516
Exactly, they're machines who don't understand when to quit doing something because it's harmful to them. A cow with it's head stuck in a grate will break it's own neck trying to escape. By your logic, it wanted to do that, so we should just let it do that, as that animals caretaker? You have the mentality of a child.
These animals are under our care and, like it or not, we know best. Animals can't always do what their hardwiring wants them to do for one reason or another, usually because it would result in harm. So when their hardwiring is forcing them to keep going even if they're in excruciating pain, confusion and stress, we should just allow that to continue because its what the animals 'hardwiring' is forcing them to do? That's retarded and you know it. Please use your common sense.

Doge meant so much, it was like a embodiment of that late 2000s-2010s internet that I loved so much and grew up with. This really saddens me.

RIP

>>4801638
This is some proper Weekend at Bernie's type of shit.

>>4798088
this
fuck the internet, it has rotten humans to the core

thank fucking god its dead. it was a rotting corpse suffering just waiting to die. also fuck that schizo fag saying chronic pain is not that bad. as someone suffering from migraines its not easy to deal with intense day lasting pain that can come 3 times a week for me. i take 3 different types of pain meds 2 of which dont fucking work properly. that fag not even thinking about growing tolerance or the impact on your organs.. wish you the worst physical pain ever you cunt.

>>4805565
Kill yourself if its so bad

As a human you can meme yourself into suffering more over unimportant things like “WAAAH I CANT WALK UNASSISTED I WANT TO DIE”
Or, you can find christ and enjoy living. Even a stephen hawking tier cripple could preach the gospel and find joy in the lord.

>>4805538
God you western faggots are disgusting. “Animals are machines” yes and when you meet YHWH in heaven he will say “well, you’re just a machine compared to me, and i know best, so you, machine, will be going to hell”.

>animals arent meant to live like this so just murder them
>it bothers me to have to witness decay
>if their life isnt perfect just murder them i can not bear to watch a disabled dog exist even if the dog is doing fine

>>4805566
stephen hawking was busy fucking children than caring about your garbage

>>4805538
>Exactly, they're machines who don't understand when to quit doing something because it's harmful to them.
Living isn't harmful to them.
>A cow with it's head stuck in a grate will break it's own neck trying to escape. By your logic, it wanted to do that, so we should just let it do that, as that animals caretaker?
Cow doesn't want to die. Cow is stupid. Cow wants to be free. Cow accidentallies itself trying to be free. You are still helping the animal live, which is what a good caretaker does.
>These animals are under our care and, like it or not, we know best. Animals can't always do what their hardwiring wants them to do for one reason or another, usually because it would result in harm.
Killing an animal isn't caring for it you maniac. Your pet would always prefer to live with you than die. As far as animals are concerned, every moment not spent dead is a good moment.
>So when their hardwiring is forcing them to keep going even if they're in excruciating pain, confusion and stress, we should just allow that to continue because its what the animals 'hardwiring' is forcing them to do?
Yes, because the pain, confusion etc. is worth it to them because they don't know any better.

>i want to live! Even though im in pain i can still be happy getting pets and eating food!
>lol no retard you want to die
>*kills stupid but loving friend that entrusted its life to you to just to prove you know better than it*
>god damn im a good person!
This is you.

>>4805565
Just move to Canada and they will gladly put an end to your pain. After all, somebody who studied the human body for 12 years is much more qualified to tell you when your life isn't worth living than you are.

as much as i agree with >>4798101, the pictures where she looks like an actual strung-up corpse here >>4799580 >>4801638 are genuinely fucking miserable to look at

>>4798142
>The Japanese doesn't believe in putting down pets.
There's a manga by Jiro Taniguchi touching on this. It's sort of episodic but they also had a dog that could barely move was probaly in tons of pain as he got older. It's really weird reading from a western perspective.

>>4798101
I am against putting down pets unless it's the most extreme examples like your dog being hit by a car and practically living through having every bone in its body shattered. Shit like that is "put-down" worthy.

I'll never get over how my teenage-hood dog was put down, cried about it for months and I'm still mad about it. Dog was 7 years old, still with loads of energy, physically healthy, very playful, one of the most energetic dogs at the dog park, etc.
He punctured the roof of his mouth with a rib bone he was chewing and wouldn't stop bleeding. It was not like he was gushing lots of blood all at once but the next day he was still bleeding, just a steady flow of blood. We brought him to the vet and the vet didn't even look at him for more than 20 minutes before saying "Well there's not much we can do. We can stitch it up but that doesn't solve why he didn't stop bleeding" and went on about how it'd be expensive and talked my parents into putting him down, parents opted to put him down without even so much of a second thought and then played the whole "it was hard on us too, we're so sad :(" card. It's been 10 years and I still get furious thinking about it, he wasn't even showing signs of weakness and nobody except for me fucking wanted to keep him alive and see if there was a chance it would heal.

I can't believe a dog near the end of her life looked old and tired!<br>I put down all my best friend doggos as soon as they show a bit of grey hair

>>4805548
This but unironically zoomieGODS WW@

What a cesspool of a thread with all sorts of retards trying to one up each other just to stroke their own ego.<br>You and your loved ones will all be dust someday, and it's gonna happen sooner than you can imagine.

>>4805677
Sounds like there's no need to make it happen faster then like mercykill fags insist.

She's been moldy and rotting for months, I thought she'd die much sooner

>>4805677
Oh yeah bet i'll gather more dust than you faggot

>>4805646
everyone in that story but you is evil, I'm sorry that happened anon

>thread already past bump limit
Ride on, doge...
F

This thread reminds me of that jap who went through a nuclear accident and they kept him alive to the point where all his body functions were done by machines and they spent hours daily changing the bandages because his skin was gone. At one point they wanted to cut the support but they changed their mind because they found a tiny bright speck of what they thought could be new intestine tissue. There's not even consensus about when he died.

>>4805633
Japanese art illustrations always seem to be so nice when not following the anime trope slop. its a shame you don't see more of it exported out of Japan.

>>4806396
Pretty much all of Jiro Taniguchi's stuff is great. I recommend looking it up.

Bibbit

Here to express my condolences and report that Dogecoin is up to 17 cents

Anonymous

>>4806170
Hell I learned about the Demon Core in some random image thread on /trash/, nightmare fuel stuff.

>>4805003
I hope the owners read this thread and decided enough is enough

>>4807041
>>4807136
Found the video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1F<wbr>bwooXssQ

>>4798101
If I can reasonably afford it or manage the care, and the dog seems still derive joy from existence or interacting with their family (and will eat), I think providing end-of-life care is the better thing to do. Pain meds + assistance till its just not feasible seems more respectful to me.

>>4798801
Your theory explains animal behavior less effectively than theorizing that they can desire things and act on the desire, and we cant ever actually know what perception of life or their own 'consciousness' animals have

there is NO amount of outside-study of human biology or neurology that would ever give an understanding or real awareness of the qualitative reality of actually being a living, breathing human. There is no neuroscience, no chemistry, no nothing that can actually get us to an understanding of the experience of tasting a strawberry except actually just BEING a person, tasting a strawberry. Intimate knowledge of the mechanistics cant even approach the actual reality of experience-itself, and this extends to whatever reality is like for animals. We can take our best guesses, but we cannot and never will understand what it is to be a dog or perceive existence as a dog. We cannot access the qualia of dog life, and its in the qualia that life is actually happening.

>>4798905
A life with pain can still be a life well lived, otherwise everyone with a chronic pain condition would KYS but most don't (though the risk of suicide definitely leaps)

Disappointing how many articles are connecting her to the shitcoin first.

>>4801638
If the condition is severe just stop treating for it and give pain medication instead, let things take their course but minimize the suffering, basically dog palliative care

Why dont people do this? Dont spend thousands on doggy cancer treatment, spend much less on doggy pain killers

>>4802726
Do you think the posters in this thread are happy? Do you actually think they're happy people?

>>4804299
Pain isn't automatically the same thing as suffering though the two are obviously closely related. You can be in pain and happy. Not making a call on whether doge was happy, just saying that pain doesnt instantly mean no more joy.

>>4805248
NTA but its often the opposite - in my experience most nihilists here have only experienced meme-tier suffering, like the absolute 'suffering' of being a NEET or whatever, theyre pschologically crippled (not necessarily their fault)

Meanwhile many people who have gone through suffering like war, homelessness, family death, etc...are not at all nihilistic. of course theres many exceptions too, but I find it kind of insufferable whenever a nihilist assumes they must have just suffered more than anyone else to have their position, or that any true suffering would result in nihilism. It just isnt true at all

>page 10
NONONONONONONONO MOOOOODS STICKY NOW

>>4807253
Maybe they don't want a repeat of the longcat one that got spammed with soijaks

>>4798101
This is probably the most replies a post on here has ever gotten

>>4807262
I mean, it’s a little late for that. Thread is about to archive

>>4798142
Fuck I got teary-eyed watching that.


>It's an asexual half frog mutant born in a tube
>paleotards still seethe about the collar
It's fiction, deal with it already

>>4798218
it's not asexual it's a sequential hermaphrodite

I get more annoyed when people try to convince me that the raptors were meant to be Deinonychus despite them being called Velociraptor mongoliensis in the book.

>>4798257
no it's not. rather they would be parthenogenetic. change in sex only occurred due to social stress caused by the lack of males, it wasn't something programmed to happen at a certain point in life.
my point is further corroborated by evidence that the "males" never showed any kind of physical and behavioural change or sexual dimorphism, they all still looked the same

>>4798218
Based. Tell em. Facts. So true. Objectively.

>>4798331
So it's all your shitty headcanon that goes against what's actually stated in the movie?

>>4799366
that's what's stated in the fucking movie you moron. grant explicitly says that because every dinosaur is a female, some of them changed sex in order to mate.it's the scene when he picks up the egg shells.

>>4799366
>the movie?
Aren't we talking about the books?

>>4799379
it's pretty much the same in this regard, isn't it? by the way, this is an example of sequential hermaphrodite. they're born female and become male when they get older. specifically, it's called proteroginism.

>>4798218
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE<wbr>EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE NO, IT'S REAL STEPHEN SPIELBURG USED REAL SCITENTISTS ON THE MOVIE THERE THERE'S ABSOLUTELY NO REASON A HOLLYWOOD PRODUCTION WOULD TAKE CREATIVE LIBERTIES IN A CREATIVE MEDIUM AND MAKE THINGS THAT AREN'T REAL!

>>4798301
how many velociraptors have they found in montana? You know, where Dr. Grant was digging "velociraptors" in the book?

>>4798218
Clearly most JP commentators have not read the fucking book. Crichton is EXTREMELY explicit about why he wrote the book the way he did. It's not a book about dinosaurs. It's a book about man's hubris.

>>4799521
it's more specifically him freaking the fuck out over genetic engineering and the possible consequences

>>4799521
>T-rex eats a massive meal and sits down to rest
>IMMEDIATELY starts chasing a puny little human for miles down a river
And it's a shit book

>>4800208
Running triggers their predatory instinct, like with cats

>>4801602
except that they're reptiles, and reptiles don't have the urge to kill everything that moves. if anything, the t rex would've chased them for a couple of meters and roar just to tell them to go fuck themselves, that this was its turf. not swim down a river to kill them.
although, the animals in jurassic park are psychopathic murderers, the equivalent of schizo orphan dropouts that grew without parents and torture small animals in the backyard.

>>4801619
americans arent able to enjoy content without explicit violence and killings

>>4801643
lighten up that was hilarious
>>4801619
based

>>4798218
I always thought it was funny how much they seethe over the frill because there’s no evidence of Dilophosaurus having one but at the same time they will also draw dinosaurs covered in fleshy growths and turkey wattles

>>4803460
>there’s no evidence of Dilophosaurus having one
modern lizards and birds having frills is evidence of any dinosaur having one.

it's just not strong evidence.

but then most of what we "know" about dinosaur appearance and behavior comes from similarly weak evidence. We just assume they were similar to modern animals of similar niches because evolution tends to do the same things over and over and over and over.

>>4803460
I don't think it's the palaeoartists who are the ones seething about the dilo-frill.

>>4803460
Helpful tip for the future: Any time you come across this "people say this but they also say this" conundrum, stop and realize that you're almost certainly describing two different groups of people.

thread hidden

>>4798306
aquatic creatures are shit machines

Anonymous

>>4798218
It's fiction that popularizes a false misguided impression of how things were among the general populace. That's what the problem always has been. Then these myths get further ingrained into pop culture and get put into subsequemt works like the ARK game, contributing to raising the populace's overall level of ignorance.

>>4806379
The ARK games are clearly not concerned with portraying anything in any reasonable light however lol

>>4801619
What do you expect. The director is Spielberg. You know. The same director who made Jaws which demonized sharks to the point of almost making extinction.

>>4806547
when were sharks nearly made extinct?

>>4806547
Sure jaws is the reason some sharks are endangered. Definitely not small chinamen pepe.


I have a cat and he is literally anon-chan from behavior, retarded autists and cute


>>4798276
>human press funny button
>soirca gets blown to bits

>>4798276
Being larger than a shark while having abstract cognitive abilities. Bulk and smarts in an environment where both are seldom paired together.

>gets beaten by 5-foot apes because they're less intelligent

>>4798276
They are borh brains and brawn

>>4798311
I wish a female would press my funny button

>>4798276
>hunt in packs
>extreme levels of communication and coordination seldom seen anywhere else in the animal kingdom
>strong
>big
>prey on a wide variety of items
>advanced sonar capabilities
they deserve their top spot

I'm surprised they don't fuck with humans more. It's actually even more scary that they don't. They are smart enough to realize if they hurt humans we will decimate them.

>>4798401
>im surprised they dont fuck humans more
they would if they could

>>4798401
In fact those ones that are damaging and even sinking boats around Spain ought to be taught a lesson with some dynamite sticks

>>4798276
A pod of orcas would easily take down a megalodon who weren't as big as theyre depicted anyway.

>>4798436
This, they're fucking around, at some point they're going to find out.

>>4798436
I hate the people on xitter who are celebrating this shit as if the orcas have some concept of which boats are owned by rich people and that they aren't gonna start attacking regular vessels as well

>>4798495
They wouldn't like hearing this.
>>4797417

>>4798401
If they do it, they’re definitely smart enough to know not to do it with no witnesses around


OP trying to start outrage bait aside I hope it also covers more then just "cute and marketable" examples. A few days ago I discovered these parasites that are so specialized that it can physically and hormonely turn a male crab female just to fit its needs which is maybe the most insane method I've ever seen an animal evolve to just feed off something.

Well you wouldn't want to drink that male crab milk now would you

>>4798320
I hope they include MAP animals like bonobos and weasels

>Pee
>Cock
>Original

>Queer
>Planet
Really makes you think

>>4798320
Ah yes I love blatant propaganda passed off as educational material :)

>>4798330
>outrage bait
Nah, I think this thread is probably going to be full of goonclowns jerking off to stuff like your pic rel

>>4798330
>crabs literally troon out because of this thing
horrifying

>>4798330
sorry, anon, but the point of streaming specials is to either justify people's point of view or to try and brainwash people doomscrolling the catalog. Unironically go to youtube if you want good biology content.

>>4798320
A while ago, my friend and I were talking about how the powers-that-be have been trying for years to propagandize homosexuality existing in the animal world as an argument for/evidence of its supposed "naturalness" to humanity.
At the time, we theorized that if they were successful in using the animal kingdom to promote their agenda, eventually they would probably try to propagandize other relatively common animal kingdom activities, such as cannibalism.
I recall we spent the next hour or so trying to make each other laugh, coming up with potential ad campaign slogans for cannibalism, things like:
"Cannibalism: it's OK, we know you were hungry."
"Need a snack? There's a whole neighborhood of them."
"Fed up with people? Good."

>>4798355
I'd buy them both them immediately give one away when I got home and pair the other with a fine female piggy.

>>4799096
You and your friend have brain damage.

>sex-changing clownfish
Erm... but humans can't do that, though.

>>4799096
There's literally nothing wrong with cannibalism.

>>4799096
Most natural behaviors are ok if performed by intelligent and compassionate people

Problem is most humans are anything but - they are even too dumb to come to the conclusions necessary to make this post. Hence our morals are brutal control with the goal of idiotproofing life. Even if its something as simple as “dont stick your penis in a shit tube without covering it”, most humans cant get any level of nuance beyond “do the thing as often as you can” and “dont do the thing and kill those who do”.

>>4799191
Uruguayan rugby player detected

>>4799278
>Donating to your local transgender rights organization is a safe and important way to ensure the longevity of the sea horse.

>>4798320
I'm gay, and this is fucking embarrassing.

>>4798320
>Using animals as examples to justify human behaviour
You never want to do that, it never ends well

>>4799726
It's okay we only do that for animals that have gay orgies, not the icky racist ones

>pointing out some oddities in the animal kingdom for political propaganda
Disgusting, animals have nothing to teach us.

>So what if trans aren't the opposite biological sex and can't reproduce? Sex and gender are different things you ignorant bigot.
>WAOW THIS FISH CAN CHANGE GENDER SEE NATURE IS QUEER

...and they got you to make a whole thread about it. Congratulations, OP, (You) fell for outrage bait.

>>4798320
those are flamingos not peacox

>>4798320
>Everything you were taught as a kid is wrong!

>>4799191
You enjoy having kuru or what?

>>4799278
>>4799470
beyond parody
someone stop these “people”

>>4799908
It's obviously fake and the author pic is from thispersondoesnotexist.com i'm pretty sure.

>>4799910
It is real. Or was. I just checked the site and it's gone now. But that was a screencap I took of it 4 years ago.

>>4799911
The site used to exist but it's obvious trolling. I mean "why white people owning dogs is racist"? It's just ridiculous. Here's an archive link, look at the author pic, it's AI.
https://archive.is/MUeM5

>>4799911
Look at the other articles idiot rightoid its sarcasm

>>4799914
>its sarcasm
He says in a thread about a real television show about transgender animals.

>>4799913
>it's AI
I don't know how you can tell.

>>4799096
>"Fed up with people? Good."
lost

>>4799915
Look at the glasses and the right eye, all the weird unsharpness, the mix of female/male features, the resolution (1024x1024), ...

>>4799915
>Nooo stupid show is only allowed if it is like exxxtreme exxtreme animals, worlds most exxxtreme predators
There's a lot of fuckery in nature like all female lizards and gender changing fish that make an interesting show, including giraffe documented behavior that's full of homosex. Deal with it.

>>4799922
>that make an interesting show
You know damn well they didn't make this to provide interesting content, but to push their LGTBBQ agenda.

>>4799960
if I see an episode I will make the judgment.

>>4799922
Lol don’t play dumb there’s no intended entertainment value behind this

>>4799960
>>4800179
The name of the show is a giveaway, I think. If it was really just supposed to be nothing more than a showcase of strange stuff in nature, then it would just be called "Weird Planet" or something like that. The fact that they named the show after the real life social minority is basically an acknowledgment that the show exists to advocate for said minority. Hey, at least they're being upfront.

>>4800531
>Hey, at least they’re being upfront.
I guess but man it’s crazy that the average normoid can come across something like this and not consider/notice how blatant an attempt at propaganda it is

>>4800554
>media about something I don't like is propoganda!!!!!
You people can genuinely stagger me with how pathetic you truly are sometimes.

>>4800560
this is definitely propaganda.

>>4800560
I was wondering when one of you freaks were gonna show your ass and defend this. You’re so shameless it’s unreal

>>4800554
They notice but what are they going to do about it? One man cannot change the world. They roll their eyes and move on with their day. Only an extremely small minority bother to bitch about it online like us.

>>4800599
You sound a 16 year old who gets all of his opinions from /pol/.

>>4800599
Lotta homos seething at this based post

Nothing To Be Proud Of(tm)

>>4798320
reminder if this short circuits your programming then you might have fallen for some demagoguery

>>4800653
It is natural to resist propaganda.

>>4800653
>a-actually y-y-you’re the brainwashed one!!!!!
shut it freak

>>4799096
>>4799202

It's one of those arguments that removes the relevancy of homosexuality being okay in human society while simultaneously trying to project human concepts and notions onto lower animals who behavior is mostly in the interest of continued day-to-day survival. It's just not a very robust argument.

>mother nature is pretty open-minded
Such a profoundly retarded statement.

>>4800782
We should start raping and incesting and cannibalizing. It’s what Mother Nature would want

>>4799922
Sure, but none of that is "queer". A queer clownfish would be refusing to change sex or something

>>4800949
he doesn’t have any intention of talking about this honestly don’t bother

Clownfish actually change sex. They produce male gametes and then female gametes. Humans have cosmetic surgery.

>>4801161
>>4800949
>name is clownfish
>is a troon
heh

>>4800949
if we want to be serious queer can only apply to people, it's a term made for people
>>4800952
I do


Would an invisible fence work for a cat?

I took in a stray cat and am keeping him as an indoor/outdoor, but I don't want him going onto the neighbor's property. Could I train him using an invisible fence like dog owners do? Anybody have experience with this?

>>4798453
Cats don't learn in the same way dogs do. It would just run around like a fucking moron until it stopped and wouldn't have the ability to tie causation and causality.

>>4798453
even dogs try the “run until it stops” method. a cat would either collapse and never go outside again or do that.

>>4798453
The hell is that? We have mind control tech for dogs now? Why didn’t I know this? What is the efficacy for people?

>>4798575
Some people like to electrocute their family members into compliance.

>>4798575
an invisible fence. It's either based on radius from a central source like the OP pic or it's like underground sensors or something. But basically the dog wears an electric shock collar and if he crosses the invisible line, he gets shocked. Usually you put flags or something like pic-rel so the dog knows where it is. Eventually he learns not to cross that barrier (supposedly, idk how well it works)

>>4798453
Do you not have a fenced yard? Just fence in your yard and then catproof the fence. It's literally that easy.

>not just mining the edges of the property with bounding anti-personnel mines with the fuzes adjusted for dogs

ngmi

>>4798715
Why wouldn't you just build a fence? Surely it takes less time and effort than this, and has added benefit of not torturing your fucking dog

>>4798732
I think these things are meant to be a very temporary solution, like if you're going camping for example or something.

>>4798716
how do I catproof the fence? It is a chain link fence that's like 3 feet tall.

>>4798752
It needs to be taller, first of all, 5 and a half foot or more, and then stick some of this onto it. If you cant do that because of some stupid ass rules then get a catio or harness train your cat. Free-roaming is never, ever an option.

>>4798453
It might work if someone made one with a gradient on whatever the punishment is where it gets worse the farther away it gets. So it's not so immediate and causes panic and let's them learn the boundaries less harshly. But all the same cats shouldn't be outdoors at all.

>>4798764
>cats shouldn't be outdoors at all
This man understands nothing about cats

>>4799000
are you saying the main purpose of cats is to destroy local small fauna?

>>4799000
Cats are half as intelligent as a chihuahua

They literally dont understand that outside is different from inside. It’s all just “territory”. Dont let it be their territory and they have no need to be there.

>>4798732
Same reason city walls went out of style and chain link fences went in. Openess is chic, apparently


>possesses highest intelligence of any animal
>randomly goes on a murderous killing rampage after a certain age
what did chimpanzees mean by this?

>>4798508
It is a manufacturered caricature of an extinct Hominid, you expect it to make any real sense?

>>4798508
>possesses highest intelligence of any animal
Isn’t that still up for debate? Cetaceans are at least pretty close

>>4798593
The list goes:
1. Humans.
2. Niggers.
3. Aboriginal Australians.
4. Cetaceans.
5. Chimps.
6. Gorillas.
7. Octopus.

It seems the smarter animals are less compassionate, except humans.

>>4798508
What's unintelligent about violence? It's very natural. Maybe you're just a beta.

>What's unintelligent about violence? It's very natural. Maybe you're just a beta.

>>4799584
>humans are compassionate
humans have killed more than any other animal

i heard chimps are literal niggers and will rape and kill their own family whereas gorillas use violence but with discretion

>>4799659
That's just because we're too stupid for our intelligence

>>4799672
that wasn't the case in antiquity

>>4799584
humans have greater capacity for destruction and murder than chimps.

the thing is, chimps don't have enough consciousness to temper their violence. so, the violent animal impulses get combined with an animalistic, but extremely high, relative intelligence to create something very vicious.

violence + impulsivity + intelligence + nothing holding you back = potential for horrible destruction

in humans, the capacity is higher if less random and less misguided.

>>4799661

You can't do this with chimpanzee

>>4799720
‘rillas really are the greatest…

>>4799720
gorillas are warriors/protectors and orangutans are caretakers
you can't trust the physiognomy of a chimp or bonbon

>>4799587
You are the descendant of pic-related.

The berserk violence of chimpanzees is as natural as the cattle-like docility of our ancestors. Being a bipedal beta ape surviving in the Savannah was a legit niche.

>>4800527
>beta ape
>started causing sabre tooth cat and other predator extinctions before having mastered fire
https://www.scientificamerican.com/<wbr>article/early-humans-not-climate-ch<wbr>ange-decimated-africas-large-carniv<wbr>ores/

>>4800527
>beta
the dopey looking face with giant cheekbones evolved to deflect punches. it's not a beta ape. it's literally built for ritual combat.

humans have only gotten less violent. get a load of erectus:
https://www.nytimes.com/1981/06/23/<wbr>science/prehistoric-man-s-killings-<wbr>of-90-giant-baboons-suggests-early-<wbr>ritual.html

>>4800532
>Australopithecus
>For the first few million years of human evolution, hominins were relatively small-brained, chimpanzee-size creatures that subsisted primarily on plant foods.
>Early Homo
>But by 1.5 million years ago a new kind of hominin was on the scene—one that was bigger, smarter and armed with stone tools. This was Homo erectus
>What we had not anticipated was the steep downturn after 1.5 million years ago. It was this timing that hinted our Homo ancestors might be at fault.
I'm sorry bruh, any Hominin after chimps and before Homo were beta apes.

>>4800550
>a team of researchers has discovered that 400,000 to 700,000 years ago hominids who were the immediate precursors of modern man killed 90 giant baboons at a butchering ground on the plains of Kenya
>400,000 to 700,000 years ago
Again, these were Homo. These large cheekbones of late robust Australopithecus evolved to deflect punches FROM HOMOS, like how chubby geeks coping with chad bullies at school. It doesn't mean Australops were capable of inflicting ritual violence themselves.


>neighbour lives about half a mile away
>creepy looking dude who lives alone in an all black house
>owns a single (1) large dog (unneutered male)
>he built a little fenced enclosure for it
>never cleans the poop out
>"is that the bare ground?" no its poop
>every time the wind blows from the east it smells like in standing on the Mount Everest made of nothing but stale, funky, dog poo
>the stench is literally indescribable after it a heavy rain
wat do?

>>4798302
Plant bushes at the edge of your land and his, that will block out the sun. Or if you're far enough south, throw some kudzu seeds into his shit heap, that'll turn dog shit into a better smelling problem quickly.

>>4798302
Nothing. Enjoy the shit stench. Clean his yard for him. Or get rid of the dog.

>>4798302
Some reddit edgelord will say “kill teh dog xddd im such a channer amirite fellow terrorists” but the real solution here is to modify a drone to ignite and drop homemade molotovs on his roof at 3am. make sure you turn off all its lights, fit it with IR cameras and dont launch or retrieve it from your property or the same spot.

>go to neighbour's house
>knock on door
>explain the situation about the dog shit smell
>ask politely for some kind of resolution to the problem
1 of 2 things will happen:
>neighbour refuses
>you make his life a living hell see: >>4798307
or
>neighbour agrees
>problem solved

>>4798397
Why are you retards so constantly scared people will call you out for the Reddit user you are?

>>4798302
This creature has the most stranglabe neck I have ever seen.

>>4798302
Confront him. If he doesn't do anything get ahold of your council to open an enforcement. Tell them his choices are affecting quality of life for anyone nearby and he's hurting property values because you're considering selling.


>>4798510
The number one give away of loxosceles are the eyes. Three pairs of two. A recluse has no abdominal markings save for a slight heart mark, and they have no spiny leg hair. Not all recluse have a visible violin pattern, so that alone is not enough to identify them.
The best course of action when bitten is to wash the area with soapy water. The majority of bites are not medically significant requiring no medical attention, though itd be a lie to say they cant be dangerous. If the bite area starts turning black at all or if your urine darkens, seek immediate medical attention.
They are a very docile spider, and only bite as a last resort when pinched.


/MBG/- microbiology general

Any collectors here on an or is it just me?
current collection:
>Haemophilus aphrophilus
>Clostridium tetani
>Streptococcus pyogenes
>Enterococcus avium
>Lactobacillus acidophilus
>Lactococcus lactis
>Listeria monocytogenes
>Streptococcus sanguis
>Staphylococcus aureus
pretty new to this and shit can get expensive so no viruses has been added to the collection, also any tips on where to find protozoa exepect for in cats? toxo is not wery interesting. also i do not order online, this is boring i try to find all specimens in "nature"

>>4798640
Based microscopy anon.
Which microscope do you got, and have you tried looking at local bog water?
Also, recommending this guy
https://m.youtube.com/@Microbehunte<wbr>rMicroscopy

>>4798650
I have the sagitta sl-750, quite far to nearest bog but i should probably gibe it a shot

>>4798650
Im also currently storing the in a regular freezer atm, wish will couse problems i really really want to get my hands on some liquid nitrogen but i think you need permits to buy it.

>>4798640
>current collection:
>>Haemophilus aphrophilus
>>Clostridium tetani
>>Streptococcus pyogenes
>>Enterococcus avium
>>Lactobacillus acidophilus
>>Lactococcus lactis
>>Listeria monocytogenes
>>Streptococcus sanguis
>>Staphylococcus aureus
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>>4798640
Is this the nerdiest /an/ related hobby?

>>4798857
Does it count as mycology if I cultivated some bitter oysters in a jar to make a natural night light?

>>4798640
A friend a mine is lead microbiologist at Dyson, I keep asking her for samples of anything.
I know they have a level 4 lab there.

What's a good microscope that balances quality and price? I'd thought about getting into this.

>>4800051
good luck with getting anything from any BSL above 2. They're designed to not let anything in and out and asking your friend to bring samples might make them lose their job and lead to further legal repercussions. Starting at BSL 1 you already deal with GMOs that are not supposed to leave facilities because they might interfere with the environment.

>>4800395
I find old university ones for next to nothing on ebay on the reg.


I NEED HELP

Identifying this dogs breed (I will post more pics in thread)

I just adopted this boy from a family who found him in the streets. No color or nametag. Owners didn't search for him and now they themselves decided to give him away (family reasons)
He has no documents and nothing
Family thinks he is a cocker of some kind
I doubt this and did a little search online only breed I have a hunch on is called - redboun Coonhound
Help kind sirs

PS:<br>He is definitely a pup So he will grow more ( think)

Looks like a redbone. Maybe a bit mixed but close enough.

>>4798670
Is there a reason this is especially important to you?

>>4798670
He does look a bit like a redbone but not a purebred one, redbones arent allowed any white on them according to breed standard. So he's either a cross or byb.

>>4798742
yes because some breeds require owners having knowledge beforehand of their special needs, health etc.

 >>4798753
yeah probably
thanks

>>4798670
it's brown and it doesn't look very social so...