sissy coyotes are getting wolfed into coywolves

>>4796447
sissy dogs are getting 'yoted into coydogs

>>4796427
>>4796448
>The dog in the photo is male, the coyote is a chained female
Sissy yotes getting DOGGED.

coydog forced to peacefully observe hegheg.jpg

If you use the word yote you get the rope

>>4796450
>file name
Lol
>>4796509
Why? Is this some meme I’m missing?

>>4796682
>Why? Is this some meme I’m missing?
furry code word, same as yeen

>>4796427
Thats a coyote being fucked by a dog. Coyotes get fucked by dogs and they get fucked by wolves. They are at and are the literal bottom of the canid world.

>>4796915
>and finally, the coyote--
>*pop*
>--fucks you in the behind.

>>4796915
dogs have oversized genitals from domestication, the slutyote loved every second

>>4796915
Yeah they’re massive fucking bitches but still successful reproductive wise

>>4797372
Is this true? I figured wolves would have bigger genitals.

>>4797745
No thats just because you have seen too many images off of e621. Wolves are not that well endowed, especially if you make them the same size as a the average dog then the proportions are obvious. Domestication trivialises reproduction and does not prioritise function or fitness and as a result you get that trend in mammals. Same goes with apes. From gorillas to chimps their genitals are fucking tiny and humans have the largest per proportion of any Hominid.

>>4797916
>Domestication trivialises reproduction and does not prioritise function or fitness
I don't really understand how or why this would effect genital size though? Like it's not something that is selectively bred for (I hope) so why would it change so drastically?

>>4797996
That's why I dont get it either. Does this effect females to?

>>4797996
humans emphasize quick single shot mating for their convenience which tends to exaggerate the genitals, often in nature single shot mating isn’t prioritized, depends on the environment and promiscuity of the species

>>4798177
>humans emphasize quick single shot mating for their convenience which tends to exaggerate the genitals,
But why anon. Please tell us penis-anon. I need to know.

>>4797916
>and does not prioritise function or fitness and as a result you get that trend in mammals.
Rather, the fitness is based on what the people handling them are willing to keep, which results in very different functions from wild ancestors. Hence the Borzoi, the very long snout actually gives a better sense of smell.

>>4798183
i already said why, humans want maximum cervix hosing in as little time as possible, so breeding animals often end up fertilitymaxxed, so cattle, donkeys, stud dogs etc end up with oversized balls/benis compared to their wild counterparts

>>4798177
Have you SEEN the penis-to-weight ratio of the humble honey bee? As a man I claim no responsibility for creating that horror.


Anonymous

We keep hearing about animal originating viruses wrecking humans, but are there examples of human viruses attacking animals?

>>4796339
tigers in the Bronx zoo got infected with covid-19, before they vaccinated all the animals

>>4796358
I remember seeing a story about a pug getting the wuflu

>>4796383
>a pug getting the wuflu
that's like your average anon putting on the nightmare-vision goggles or a pigeon shitting on a 'jeet

Some dogs caught monkey pox from their owners iirc

>>4796339
The problem is twofold:
1. Nobody cares about animal medicine outside of agriculture. You imagine there would be a veterinary interest in, say, treating dogs of various viruses; but there really isn't. If your dog is sick, they will receive not even a fraction of equivalent treatment to a human - and I mean that in terms of knowledge. A lot of things could be wrong with a given animal, and it's probably in a textbook somewhere, but whatever if it dies get another one. So as a result research into human-originated animal diseases, you'll only find any interest if it is in regard to cows or pigs or sheep.
2. Diseases thrive in close contact and in high populations in close contact. This is far more common in factory farm conditions than in urban centers, because at the end of the day at least you can crawl back to your own bed and not sleep near your own shit or be fed chopped up animal corpses - which is not always the case for factory farms but is sometimes the case and where these serious animal borne diseases come from. Humans-originated diseases tend to be the ones we've always had, and as a result we're adapted to; while animal diseases are often novel and attack humans as a host without a good immune response and thus goes at it like we're a buffet.

>>4796339
When the people sperm go into the monke butt, it create niggerman. This was very bad for the environment, so God tried to flood the earth to get rid of it

>>4797117
Wasn't monkeypox transmitted via...

>>4797369
Its worse when you remember babies were getting it too.

>>4797357
didn’t try hard enough evidently

>>4797371
ok that’s fucking cool based gecko

>>4797117
its a greyhound iirc, that got it from its homosexual owners


>>4796844
Thats not a toad or a frog....

>>4796973
What the hell is happening on this video

>>4796974
guy from india playing with some dead fish

>>4796920
That’s unfortunate…
>>4797034
I guess it’s the most reasonable explanation


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBt<wbr>FTF2ii7U

Elephant and Dog friendship general

>>4796901
angels get sexually frustrated and rape rhinos?

>>4796893
Doesn’t happen
>>4796906
Is there any actual recorded case of that happening

>>4797585
>Doesn’t happen
do you see the video I posted in the OP of this happening? How do you explain that?

>>4796893
Liking dogs is a sign of high intelligence

>>4797588
*happens extremely very rarely


Plantigrade vs Digitigrade

A grizzly bear can run around 40 MPH (so they say, IDK how precise of experimental conditions they tested this under) does that make it the fastest plantigrade animal?
What ARE the actual big advantages and disadvantages of digitigrade vs plantigrade walking?
Does walking on the toes make you not get tired as fast?
Could something with flat feet ever hunt in a similar way to how a lion or tiger hunts?

>>4796897
I don't exactly remember the reason, and I'm too lazy to look it up, but I think it has something to do with the points of contact on the ground, digitigrade has less, so the gait ends up being quicker and more "spring loaded". Plantigrade is really only good for balance and load bearing.

>>4796996
did bears evolve from digitigrade ancestors?
All of the proto caniforms and proto carnivorans I can find are digitigrade.

>>4797203
Yeah, I'm pretty sure all modern mammals evolved from some little digitigrade shrew scumbag, bears probably became more plantigrade as they started to rely less on speed and agility, and more on strength and sturdiness.

>>4796897
>how precise of experimental conditions
good morning sir


>>4796902
That's why he's smiling. His troubles are over.

>>4796900
Looks like one of those dog coin creatures

>>4796900
I bet some random dude has a perfect picture of a thylacine that they think is just a weird dog

>Fatass troll kid wants us to believe this is totally real

>>4796900
Doesn’t look like it…
>>4796934
Tragically beautiful…
>>4797171
Why would it have a mouth that big

>>4797381
The better to eat you with my dear

>>4797381
That part is somewhat close to reality, but the place where the jaw connection is at the image is different


my kitten constantly has zoomies and seems to have unlimited energy. Do I need to get another kitten for him? His littermates are all gone, what are the chances he'll get along with a random kitten

"Zoomies" is not a real word, quit using it. If a young animal has a lot of energy, it's because they are young, not because they "have zoomies."

>>4797029
nigga he starts growling and running back and forth and sometimes hisses at nothing, that's not just a lot of energy

>>4797025
How old is he? If hes under 8 weeks you can get another for sure
Also you let him outside right?

>>4797033
Anon, the kitten is doing his best to protect you from the elves that have infiltrated your house.
If he’s still little, I would think that he would get along just fine with another.

>>4797025
Out of all of the pics you could have done you did AI slop. OP is just another bot post.

>>4797025
play with him more. what's his breed?

>>4797025
Cats would usually benefit from having another cat around, yes, although ideally it’d be cats you know get along like littermates, in this case get another male to be safe


Are you supposed to keep the TV on for your pet if they're alone at home for most of the day?

>>4797093
I leave the PS2 Tony hawk's Pro skater for my turtle

>>4797093
Cats get statically charged by old crts and can shock you, beware if you got an old model pacemaker and are for some reason using a metallic chest drain at home, which is why I opted for finally upgrading to a dog

>>4797093
Yes all animals enjoy a healthy session of brainwashing by semitic television stations

What's a good channel or Netflix series for pets?

>>4797816
>a bear
quite topical considering the other thread

>>4797093
My parents started doing this for some reason despite the fact the dog was completely fine for over a decade without the TV, but it begs the question: can you give dogs adhd?


Top 10 Animals That Are Considered Racist

Why did you post a picture of George Floyd?

>>4797102
Wrong. African American culture glorify gorillas and often identify with them for their strength. Look at any pro-African American group, rap label or gang and you will see the symbolism.

>>4797103
Celebrating his dea- I mean, remembering the Saint himself is right around the corner - he’s been sober for 4 years now

>>4797105
>2017
what a hell of a year man

>>4797102
>watching river monsters
>realize that the fish in white countries at must scratch someone really bad
>episode in brown country
>estimated that fish kills dozens of people a year
>lmao
I guess 5 is the humble little fishie


>>4797494
Cassowaries are cool. Is all you need to know.

>>4797193
I look like this and say this.

>>4798001
Gonna need a citation for that

>>4797193
>*kills you*
heh nothing personnel, mammal


Most spiders don’t have venom anywhere near potent enough to harm let alone kill a human (and that’s just among the minority of one’s with fangs that can actually penetrate human skin). But that makes me question: why do any of them *do*? Sydney funnels and Brazilian wandering spiders can kill a full grown adult in minutes. This is obviously way overkill for incapacitating prey, but even for defense it’s pretty extreme especially since those species already have pretty big fangs anyway.

>>4797202
>Considering their algogenic effects in mice, potent insecticidal effects, and high levels of sequence conservation, we propose that the δ-HXTXs were repurposed from an initial insecticidal predatory function to a role in defending against nonhuman vertebrate predators by male spiders, with their lethal effects on humans being an unfortunate evolutionary coincidence.
https://www.pnas.org/doi/full/10.10<wbr>73/pnas.2004516117

>>4797202
Funnel webs also strike with a decent amount of force so they’re pretty strong too. Anyway this basically >>4797217

>>4797217
>>4797445
>N-No goyim, it's just a coincidence. Do not notice things.

>>4797202
Speed is generally the answer.
For whatever reason those spiders have found it prudent to be able to kill prey or a threat as quickly as possible. Spiders are fairly fragile, and animals at that scale act pretty quickly, so a quarter second improvement could mean surviving an encounter.

this reminded me that there's an episode of peppa pig that was banned in australia

>>4797490
Yes you caught me I’m with Big Spider they pay me handsomely to push their agenda

>>4797693
The lesson was that you shouldn't be afraid of spiders because they can't hurt you.

>>4797812
Oh. Lmao. Wonder if that backfired over there.

>>4797812
I think I remember hearing about this. Pretty ridiculous since the danger of spiders here is obscenely overblown. A lot of that probably had to do with redbacks though (much more commonly encountered than a funnel web), but from what I understand their bites generally aren't even fatal.

>>4797914
They generally aren't fatal even if untreated, I mean.

>>4797812
This is a stupid thing to teach kids even if the vast majority of them aren't dangerous.
You can still get pretty horrible effects from some spiders. Here in the US, the recluse can cause you to get a massive ugly scar and have to deal with the pain of necrosis. Not to mention the widows that can actually kill people.


>YouTube starts pushing caracal videos on me
>almost all of the videos show a clearly agitated and aggressive animal
>cimment sections are filled with "well actually caracals communicate by hissing, so he's not really angry! when their ears go back, that's when they're angry"
What is it with this cope? I've yet to see a caracal hiss that wasn't paired with either defensive or aggressive body language (and most of the time the ears do indeed go back). They're aggressive wild animals, if one is constantly hissing and baring it's fangs, it's unhappy and agitated.
Are caracal owner apologists the new "aw look the pittbull's smilin'"

>>4797135
Yea caracals dont get fully tame
Better stick with the serval or the caracat

>>4797135
the original floppa gregory was pretty chill compared to pumba who does look constantly angry. some caracals can be tamed down but they're not domestic and as such unless you start from kittenhood and work a ton with them they're not going to be something suitable as a pet.

>>4797135
>>4797234
This all started with the floppa meme I believe. I think a bunch of people actually bought into it and got them without doing any research and now have a hostile wild animal in their homes. At least that’s the funniest explanation for me

>>4797440
I'll never understand people who do shit for da memez.

>>4797135
Because those people are vegan, ARA The Dodo watchers and therefore have no critical thinking skills.

>>4797135
domestic cat evolved ways to communicate with humans a caracal did not

>>4797135
You forgot to mention how they’re all morbidly obese

>>4797135

One of the comments mentioned the caracal was fixated on the camera everytime and that the owner was purposely agitating and stressing out the cat for views. The comment was well explained and seemed like they understood cat body language very well

>>4797440
It's so retarded, even domestic cats are semi-feral assholes who are only safe to keep as pets because they are too small to eat you alive


"Who's a good dog?" is always asked, but does anyone ask, "Who's a good owner?".

>>4797219
No. Because the answer would be “Not you.” 95 percent of the time and most dog owners aren’t ready to confront that
>>4797259
Wrong. Very wrong.

>>4797627
dogs are more high maintenance than children desu

>>4797219
My dog things I'm a good boy and that's all that matters.


this a real animal?<br>/tv/ is my main board

>>4797223
Yes, the tibetan sand fox. I assume it was posted on /tv/ along with pic related.

>>4797223
Yes?
>/tv/ is my main board
why do I care?

>>4797623
I like the elephant.
It's really in a sense an ideal for what humanity should be.
Smart, intelligent, emotional, to some extent understanding and accepting the futility of life but still grieving when it happens - yet moving on. Elephant groups can only be separated by death or capture, while humans kill each other by the thousands even close relatives.
Humans, with all the technical knowledge breed ourselves into degeneracy, stupidity and meaningless eating, shitting, fucking while destroying the planet WITHOUT ANY GOAL other than profit and pleasure.
Elephants eat, shit and fuck but they don't destroy the planet.
I know elephants aren't fully aware or at least aren't aware like we are.
But I wonder If elephants evolved technology first instead of disgusting chimps - would they have built a better world? I believe so.

>>4797662
All of that comes down to choice and capability anon. If elephants were capable of doing that and had the smarts to do it they would. Our intelligence is what leads us to have the awareness that we have the *choice* to do those things, only our guilt and shame and any other self imposed morals stops us


Cohabiting Different Frog Species

I have a 9 year old Whites (dumpy) Tree frog in a large tank by himself (deffo male). I was thinking of getting some more for the tank, and was considering mixing it up abit. He once lived with a white lipped tree frog, so one of those, and maybe some mexican Giant Mexican leaf frog from a local petshop (UK), and maybe a crested Gecko as they all live in similar conditions. Is this a good idea?
My frog is kinda autistic, likes to hide instead of climb and wouldn't socialise with the whites tree frog that he used to live with. Any suggestion?
>pic related
the tank

>>4797399
Why not just get another white tree frog of comparable size?

>>4797407
Because I would have to order in a box, which seems cruel instead of picking frogs up from the local shop. Plus the diversity seems fun, diversity is good remember :)

>>4797407
Are you serious right now??? MORE whites??? Don’t be a chud please

>>4797399
I hope this is bait. Their care is different for starters, they can’t live together. Second of all that enclosure is not suitable for any of those animals, upgrade the frog you have before getting more. Frogs are terrible for cohabbing especially with something like a crestie, they’ll attempt to eat anything that moves


Oh shit, I almost completely forgot about the /an/ tournament that was held last year<br>You guys doing it again? IIRC the last host apparently had to leave due to becoming a father so I'm not sure if he's coming back for this

>>4797374
What the hell are you on about
>>4797389
>due to becoming a father
LARP of the utmost magnitude

>>4798203
A couple of months is not "a while"

>>4797374
I ignored this because I thought it would be boring. Was I wrong?
t. /v/irgin

>>4797637
>>4798203
>Newfag outing themselves again

>>4798332
God, I forgot how good this was.

>>4798295
it was a fun little competition, I dont think /an/ changed much since last year though, contestants would be pretty much the same

>>4798332
I hope we get more OC this time round

>>4798246
>>4798248
>>4798324
We haven’t had this in close to a year in fairness

The next /an/lympics is happening tomorrow (17th of May) at 7PM EST.

>>4797374
So is it tomorrow or NEXT Friday?

>>4798363
Being here for more than a year has gotta be one of the lowest bars on who we consider newfags.

>>4798387
Yes.
>>4798478
It’s a slow board man. We filter through users


Hello there fellow (and very real) /an/imals! What's shakin? Ate any human lately?<br>Why are lions such dickheads, btw? Do we even know?

>>4797250
I don't see what you mean. Manticores are as real as the Mokele-mbembe!

>>4797239
This is definitely the most unnerving depiction of a manticore I’ve ever seen. The spiked tail is the cherry on top

>>4797400
What's the problem? He's smiling :)


Looking for the perfect plant

Necessary characteristics:
>Must be very hard to kill, and must be able to defend itself from diseases, fungi, insects, etc.
>Must be really easily to take care of, and should only require things that are easily available.
>MUST NOT REQUIRE ANY REPOTTING, OR GROW TOO BIG TOO QUICKLY.
>Must live atleast as long as humans.
Preferred but not necessary characteristics:
>Should have traits that make it interactive, i.e., flowering of fruit-bearing.
>Should be Monoecious.

>>4797469
I am looking at pics by people who own it, and are you sure that thing doesn't grow too big. Doesn't even seem like plant that can be contained in a pot.

>>4797468
Sansevieria will grow in a dark corner of a room and it's sufficient to water it every other week.

Nymphaea zenkeri or Nymphoides aquatica. Have no clue if they're monoecious.

>>4797468
Why do you have that logo next to your name

>>4797945
It's a yellow dotted aquatic niggerfucker, pretty easy to maintain

>>4797474
1ft per year i think you can manage that with the slightest of landscaping skills, picre also contains copius amounts of mescaline

>>4797945
It's vallisneria. Been growing like that for a year now

>>4797468
Spider plant works for me, don't see why it should not work for you too.
Very lively, grows easily, bumps back up after prolonged dry time, do not seem to care much of pests(springtails)/fungi/mineral deposits, never fertilized it and its fine, hanging offshots look nice, can flower a little.
The only problem is that it can start to look a bit ugly after couple years, then you may need to get rid of it and replant the offshots.

>>4797895
This shit INVADES my garden, it's getting out of hand.

>>4798409
Nibble at some, it tastes like sour candy.

>>4798120
>pests(springtails)
You dumb motherfucker, springtails are the absolute opposite of pests. They eat fungus and mold (i.e. Make root rot hard to achieve), aerate the soil, help with nutrient transfer, and don't even jump out of a house plant pot unless startled.

Any pot of dirt is improved by springtails.

>>4798439
What the fuck, I thought it was a joke, but this shit is actually edible?

>>4797468
go outside, pick some wild plant that's growing in some shitty place like a crack on the pavement
enjoy your hardy plant

>>4798704
Yeah, woodsorrel is one of the few actually pleasant tasting edible plants near me. Makes a good garnish, but it shouldn’t be a large part of your diet since it’ll bind to the dietary calcium your body needs to work.

>>4798819
vallisneria I planted in a bottle almost a year ago. The ideas is it becomes a self sustaining ecosystem.

>>4801235
What happens when it out grows it's bottle?

>>4798120
>springtail hate on MY board
a pox of fungus gnats upon you

I can tell you what NOT to get, a loofah. Got one of those bitches for free and its ruining my life. Too fucking tall too fucking fast.

>>4797895
Those little flowers, theys tasty ifn ya get em before they open.

>>4798439
>>4798582
>>4798898
Cool beans; I'm not alone, lol.

OP, I dunno that last word, but I vote golden pothos just for its ability to be neglected. I did a clipping thing in an old glass milk bottle for my niece when she was 5 or 6. Like a science, watch-the-roots-grow, how to plant it after awhile; shit ya do with kids to get em into it. She just graduated high school and it's still alive. She's done her own clippings, starts, planting, everything. And I really thought she'd kill it.

Dunno, might not be what you're looking for, but it's good info to have if someone wants something nigh-invulnerable and easy to care for.

Flowering? Wood sorrel. I would say, but I forgot the name, lol. They look kinda like a fuzzy-leafed violet but I can never find any anymore. Could've been from Japan(?).

A fruit plant that stays small... Cherry tomato bush? They die kinda easy, but hey, 'maters. You could constantly have a back-up plant easy.

>>4802689
I can't really outgrow the bottle since it doesn't have access to co2 outside the bottle. The idea is that old leaves will simply die and decay and the plant will use that to grow new leaves and so on. so far it's looking good.


snakes

>it's an animal that moves around with no legs somehow
>yeah it just ummm.... slithers... yes we assure you that makes perfect sense
>and it looks like this inside, don't question how it works this is 100% real
do you really believe this shit?

Just wait until you hear about legless lizards.

>>4797498
what purpose does this serve? imagine the abs

>>4797486
>there are snake snakes that swim
>no, no legs or fins, just SLITHER

>>4797697
cold blooded eating tubes

it's such a basic life form

they almost seem like machines

yet so much more sophisticated than worms

stupidly fragile tubes. they literally aren't built with the expectation of living longer than 5 years so after about 15 the liver will probably puff up and slowly choke it to death next time it eats.

>serpent symbolism in basically every culture ever
There's something about about these creatures that goes farther than just reverence for a predator... any anons with crazy theories about snakes?

>>4797966
rivers and lightnings look like snakes when drawn.
Also fear of snakes is hardcoded I. our brains

>>4797683
Gaboon and rhino vipers are fatass ambush predators who usually don't move around much and only eat once a month or so. Using muscles to get around places is a better alternative for them than slithering.

>>4797966
Most of the myths involving snakes are serpent/dragon slaying stories that nearly all stem from a single PIE root so I wouldn’t call it reverence, Aztecs are the biggest exception since they had a snake god though,

>>4798102
that’s actually hilarious
I would have thought muscles would have been the more physically taxing mode of transport but it just shows how little I actually know about these weirdos I guess

>>4798251
>Aztecs are the biggest exception
No they're not, and plenty of other religions have positive depictions of snakes
>Baltic religions consider grass snakes to be sacred animals
>Greco-romans considered serpents to be symbols of wisdom and healing
>Hinduism, which is by far THE most widespread and long-lasting PIE religion in history and the third largest worldwide, is well known for considering snakes sacred
>Egyptians considered snakes sacred
>Pythons are revered in parts of Sub-Saharan Africa.
>The Rainbow Serpent is the creator deity in many Aboriginal Australian traditions
>Chinese folk religion has snake deities
>Even Abrahamic religions aren't entirely negative about them, see the fiery flying serpents. You've also got Gnostics revering the serpent in the garden.

>>4798719
My point that most myths involving snakes/snake like creatures almost always involve killing them still stands so it’s still more complex than just reverence, even Hinduism has Indra vs Vriritra, but point taken

>>4797966
>>4798251
>>4798719
>>4798728
Okay but where did equating serpents with sexy evil women and femme fatale come from?

>>4797486
Snakes are like people with custom pc cases.
>Everything's in there and connected properly so who cares if it's a box or spread out on the wall
>All the components are included so it works
kek

>>4797719
Sea snakes have flattened tails that act like fins

>>4797672
Their species eventually evolved into that after skipping too many leg days

>>4799371
Yah sorry, thought I already reduced that one, but nah

>>4799391
Images are from 'Dictionary of Symbols' by J. E. Cirlot

>>4797966
They were warning us about intestinal (helminthic) parasites

>>4797486
I met a rubber boa constrictor the other day chilling on the ground. Had no idea what it was so I didn't touch it, but looking it up later it sounds like they're pretty docile and easily handled, even in the wild. Maybe next time I see one I'll try to pet it.

>>4797909
your insides arent symmetrical either

>>4802154
Rubber boas supposedly never bite, rosy boas are also closely related to them and are the best beginner pet snakes.

>>4798719
Don’t forget about snake handlers

>>4797966
>so crazy that all cultures have art of a line


>tfw you will never see a real basking shark

>>4797465
>He doesn't live on the isle of man

Look at that gape<br>she is basking for it!

>>4797530
Quit being lewd, she's just pogging

>>4797465
How is this not a basedjak yet? Prime gem material tbqfhwy

>>4797509
that place is sadly in the shitter last I checked

>>4797509
> not in Scotland

these mfs used to be visible from my house, and then I moved to London like a retard

>>4797942
>scotland
Do you think if the sharks ever attacked scottland the loch ness monster would defend the country?

>>4797465
>tfw a real basking shark will never see me either

>>4797942
>and then I moved to London
Are you suicidal
>>4797993
She only appears when they can breach their magic fairy barrier

>>4797942
You had it all and you threw it away, what a waste


And so begins our nightly shenanigans


>>4797493
only the oldest of gods remember

I'm not entertained by videos where parents coach their kids into repeating stuff for the camera. you can literally hear the father say "say look at all those chickens" in the video

>>4797886
>>4797887
I haven’t seen it in forever so I wouldn’t know but that sucks…


I just smacked a bee with my phone and it left a big stain of pollen on my screen, I was worried at first but he got up after a few seconds and flew away, is he going to be okay?

>>4797253
No the aggressive energy he was giving off made it clear it was a guy bee, it's why I mistook him for a wasp

>>4797257
Drones dont collect pollen, they fuck and die

>>4797268
bro u rlly said due to the aggressive behavior it was a guy bee lmffao

>>4797248
Why did you hit it with your screen and not the back? Are you dumb?

>>4797268
Read the ENTIRE wiki on the western honeybee or remain ignorant

>>4797300
and she was right. it probably was a male bee


How can I ensure my cat lives to atleast 20? He's around 8-9 currently and is still very full of piss and vinegar (he's a domestic long hair and is very large and slightly chubby). What kinds of things ensures that a cat will live a very long life? I've heard of cats living until their 30s in rare cases and I would imagine it has to do with a little more than just genetics and luck

pic unrel

whole raw feeding
light therapy
clean air

>>4797506
Inside only.
No dry food.
My buddy made it to 23.

>>4797563
What did he eat most of the time? What do I feed my cat to heathmaxx him

>>4797566
PMR- prey model raw
fresh raw>frozen raw>wet/canned>dry
fresh organs are the peak food for longevity

>>4797584
Alright well my problem is that when my cat was maybe 3 years old he got a UTI and almost died and they had no clue how he got it since he was neutered, and the veterinarians scared my mom into buying my cat this special urinary tract health dry food for him which he has been eating ever since. She is very jewed in pretty much every aspect of her life and the food she buys for her pets is no exception, she thinks if they eat absolutely anything other than the food they've been eating their whole lives they will get sick. How do I unjew my mom on the topic of pet food?

>>4797506
That’s a good question that’s still widely debated on. Same for dogs. Genetics definitely play a factor as we know certain breeds are just outright unhealthy and can only live so long. But beyond that you’ll get a myriad of answers depending on who you ask

>>4797506
You can give him the most expensive food and never let him outside and he'll still get cancer and die. It's a roll of the dice. Just enjoy your time with him and don't take him for granted. It'll end one day.

>>4797563
my last cat was an outdoor cat who ate a mix of wet and dry food and she lived until 20, perhaps there are more factors to it.

>>4797563
>>4797566
I didn't do anything special. I only ever fed him wet canned food. I don't remember the brand, But towards the end I tried expensive sensitive stomach stuff, but he only ever liked the cheap stuff. And I always gave him bits of whatever I was eating. He was pretty health up until the last 9 months.


>>4797538
Just woke up and dug it's way out of the sand, then a photographer shoves a camera in his face.

>>4797538
I think he voices his grievances pretty clearly in the video, anon.


I think one person like this is equal to 5 serial rapists

>>4797653
This could have been a reply in the SMASHED thread you fucking pillock.

>>4797654
This. Stop spamming the board everyone knows toad breeders are spiritual scum

Toadline skeemers getting into CRISPR is going to make a wild saga. Don't even have to jack off the dogs by hand anymore

>>4797653
4chan can't stand it when black people are better at science than them

>>4797889
>black people
SMASHING and SLAMMING originated from white breeders and is now an international past time. Its an unusually multicultural thing that people of multiple races are getting involved in. Even the glorious Chinese have created fucking cloning facilities just for TOADLINEs.

>>4798071
I'm sick of toadline slander they are actually so fucking cute

>>4798071
Look at how sad he is. He's aware he should not be.

>>4797889
if i demolish purposefully demolish a house and then try to sell the ruins to someone it doesn’t make me a better carpenter than actual carpenters
>>4798114
Get help

>>4797653
What happens if you mix a redrum with a redrum....

>>4798194
they fucked up his chromosomes so bad they turned his XY to a ZY

>>4798193
>purposefully demolish a house
more like meticulously renovate

>>4798285
They're exclusively bred by black people.

>>4798505
90% of the breeders posted in toadline threads are wiggers or chinese

>>4798505
>trying to sow dissent between toadGODS
toddlerfags are getting desperate

>>4798092
God is dead and we have killed him.

>>4797653
Ayo, Tyler Ban K., Tyler Ban K. 1471 AYO!

I thought these were cartel associates playing god by bumping their dogs together in their garage to see what happens. Do they really have cloning labs? Since when did cloning become so widespread?

>>4799649
we've been cloning plants since ancient rome. animal cloning has been getting popular since around 2015 among rich people, and you don't need a lab. there are companies that clone pets commercially for big, big money.

>>4797653
billions must be SMASHED
trillions must be SLAMMED

>>4799649
They're technically not cloned, they're just so inbred that they're almost clones. I really wish I was kidding.

>>4800072
>Go on, take the deer leg wolf-thing. Its not like you will form a faustian pact where your descendants will be corrupted, forever cursed to fall under mortal servitude against the whip of my descendants who will bring hell to earth by burning the lost souls from the jurassic period. After all its free food...

>>4800217
Hey, they made their choice. Deals a deal

>>4798505
The SKEEM is unironically diverse. So far it's whites, blacks, hispanics, and now asians.

>>4797653
These people really enjoy playing God. Especially when they give the toads humiliating names like Cumrag or whatever. And the way they write is like normies on steroids, this tone of always being perpetually hyper and excited for everything, and doing things on a whim cuz LIFE IS SHORT SO WHY NOT!!!! Something is wrong with these people that's for sure.


Which animal would be the best suited for genetic tampering in order to create a bioweapon? Animals, no bacteria, plants, fungi, prions, archaea or virii allowed

>>4797673
Crop-eating insects. Modify them to breed and eat faster and make them more resistant to poisons and predators.
Stuff like that - organisms that cause economic and agricultural damage would be more useful than weaponised predators (though like any bio weapon they would eventually turn on their creators). Worms that decrease soil quality, molluscs that damage dams and water supplies, etc

>>4797698
>>4797673
Oh and parasites would be useful too but that goes without saying

>>4797673
You don't even need a bio-weapon. Just force uncontrolled immigration on the country and wham, instant societal downfall.

>>4797698
yes, but that would create more problems for everyone. said insects would soon mutate due to their fast breeding and get out of control and eventually harm the very nations that created them. much like the nuclear fallout being carried by the wind and hitting neutral/allied countries.

>>4797673
botflies
>make them target only humans
>make them parthenogenetic for easier reproduction
>make them nocturnal and smaller for better stealth
>make the eggs hatch inside the mother's body so she deposits live maggots
>change their behavior so they deposit their maggots specifically inside nostrils and ear canals
>make their abdomen longer and thinner so they can quickly inject maggots deep in the cavities
>maggots will beeline as quickly as possible towards the brain
>host gets his brain eaten before anything can be done about the maggots
Just release a few tens of thousands of them over a country from a plane and watch the populace quickly descend into despair as nobody knows when they are next. You don't pay attention for a few seconds, feel an itch in your ear and it's already too late, a strike force of maggots has been dropped too deep for you to reach and is making its way to eat your brain.

>>4797685
Can burn out an eye in its natural state. Is basically a mobile chemistry set and pressurized container with accurate aim. Magical genetic tampering into can modify the catalysts and chemicals used to make other types of delayed explosives, or glues, or corrosive components, or paint a camera lens, or squirt conductive material to fuck up electronics after crawling into a ventilation hole, etc.

>>4797706
It’s the most realistic scenario (look at how diseases are being weaponised despite the guarantee they will blow right back to their creators).
You don’t even need to genetically engineer organisms for this - invasive species already do billions of dollars of damage a year in the USA. Simply specifically collecting and targeting various species and releasing them all at once could be economically and ecologically catastrophic. You could even directly kill people if you do things like releasing Saltwater/Nile crocs into the Everglades or venomous Australian snakes into New Mexico or whatever
But multicellular organisms don’t mutate as fast as you claim. They can change, yes, but a tropical insect deployed into South America by say Russia isn’t changing into something that can come right back for at least several thousand years

>>4797710
>you wouldn't want a 3 day vacation would you?
lmao you’re one to talk champ

>>4797708
That sounds nightmarish but I highly doubt a person wouldn’t notice a fly landing on them

>>4797673
>no fungi
Goddamn it dude. You just excluded some of the most devastating organisms in the planet that would excel at this exact purpose.
>>4797698
> (though like any bio weapon they would eventually turn on their creators)
Not necessarily. That’s just a fictional trope. In this case any reasonable mad scientists would know how to destroy the thing they create for the very same reason.

>>4797710
>that's false. immigration creates short term instability
And what happens when you have decades long unending immigration? Suddenly that "short term" isn't so short.
Besides, you're full of bullshit anyway. In the past, those "ungrateful" jobs got paid a living wage.

>>4797810
> Not necessarily. That’s just a fictional trope. In this case any reasonable mad scientists would know how to destroy the thing they create for the very same reason
Covid was in all probability a lab leak - there was no vaccine just sitting around for it. It’s also even more difficult to get rid of an organism that is infesting ecosystems from the ground up than a virus that can be reduced through quarantine and vaccines

>>4797903
>lableak
Rightist conspiracy theory. Covid was proven to have originated from American soldiers, who likely got it from prairie dogs.

>>4797673
The skys is the limit really. If we are talking multigenerational genetic tampering just pick anything and tamper away. The most benign animal could become a killing machine. I'm choosing a limpet as my base animal. It doesn't really matter because no matter what the the base animal is, with enough tampering anything could potentially end up being a weapon.

>>4797698
Pretty much this. Imagine unleashing a swarm of genetically-modified locusts resistant to most commonly used pesticides that also eat and breed more. They could probably crash entire agricultural economies

>>4797718
That's bullshit. Insects can and have developed resistances to pesticides within the span of a few years. Otherwise we wouldn't hear much about bio pest control to cope with the fact that most products barely work anymore

>>4797903
> Covid was in all probability a lab leak
Doubtful. Things happened too conveniently for that to be the case.
> It’s also even more difficult to get rid of an organism that is infesting ecosystems from the ground up than a virus
It would depend on the organism in question. Something that literally lives in the ground, maybe

>>4797913
This. Genes can go a long way, the limpet could be a giant squid with some gene editing

>>4798280
No, it was very very much a lab leak. China and the US were complicit in violating a few treaties regarding bioweapons and the denials ranged from desperate non sequiturs (from fauci and folks) to total shutdown (xi’s side). If russia confirmed that the US and China were using chinese soil to develop superviruses it would basically ruin geopolitics forever.

>>4797967
Sure they can develop resistance to certain pesticides, but other stuff - like climate and diet changes - are absolutely not stuff that happens in mere years (see my example of tropical insects trying to colonise Russia).

>>4798280
> It would depend on the organism in question. Something that literally lives in the ground, maybe
A disease infects human beings and relies on humans for survival, and vaccines and quarantine may well wipe it out. A small animal might well infest several million square kilometers of hundreds of different biomes and various terrains and multiple countries, and each and every single organism must be killed or they will simply replicate back in a few years.

Any crop-devasting animal..if you were specifically thinking about vertebrates, i would go for some species of parrot.
Maybe quakers as they are extremely smart on their own plus build nests and eat a lot.
If you modified them to become more active, become smarter and reproduce faster, they could be quite threatening for agriculture, they can pick large pieces of crop and eat it somewhere else also, they have dialects, are highly social and highly organized.
i wonder what would happen if you selectively bred them for more mechanical intelligence, long term memory and paw usage

>>4797673
this series was so cool. severely underrated

To toss some more bioweapons stuff into discussion, in the 1950s & 1960s the US government had facilities at Plum Island NY doing active bioweapons research. A few years after this the first cases of what we now call lyme disease were documented, in nearby Lyme CT. Not to hard to imagine some diseased test tick getting loose and then hitching a ride on a bird to the mainland.

>>4798388
The simplest, effective answer we needed all along

>>4797673
tell me more about this op picture

>>4797708
>change their behavior so they deposit their maggots specifically inside nostrils and ear canals
what the fuck anon

>>4797808
>make them nocturnal and smaller for better stealth
Presumably they'd land on you while sleeping like a Tsetse Fly. You can't cover all the holes in your head and all times and even if you feel it when it lands you can't do much against a swarm of flies.

>>4797673
Biological warfare. Infect mosquitos with the American flu and them drop them into China or russia.

>>4797708
>make an entirely different organism


>>4797842
Nta but have you ever heard of the tale about the carp and the waterfall

>>4798046
I don’t like where this is going…


Natural cure

>be me
>work at an office
>very antisocial and vocal about it so no one bothers me
>unfortunately all the offices are doorless
>out of 145 offices in my floor a beehive formed outside my window
>it became a gathering point for coworkers to watch the bees and talking to me about them
> 2 weeks later the hive made a separate extension and now technically I have 2 hives on my window
>coworkers now come daily to check if they’re going to merge
>”sorry for bothering you anon, here some coffee for your troubles” and the others are doing the same bringing treats on my table
>since I just take the coffee I offered the treats for others
>I started bonding with them and found that I have similar interests with some of them
>this morning on the opposite side of the bees there was not 1 but 3 white pigeons they were standing there watching the bees
>one of my coworkers saw them and called the others to bring doughnuts because it’s a “special occasion” and i offered to pay for it
>”wow anon.. it’s like nature is trying to tell you something”
I’m not sure what it is, but it made me happy.

You're a highly social animal who dearly needs lots of socialization. Antisocial tendencies tend to form out of development damage. Avoidance strategies are among the least destructive though so you're not in the worst shape. You need to learn how to very quickly spot genuine people who share your interests, and spot assholes who have much worse social maladaptations. Easier said than done by far, but you're on the right track. Once you learn how to quickly establish trust, you'll need to work on actually opening up to others and being a bit vulnerable. This will require changing your views a little, knocking off the rough edges. Not hiding, but actually integrating. It's well worth the metamorphosis. You'll be much more happy I promise.

>>4797884
I'm glad you're coming out of your shell a bit anon, and that others are treating you kindly. People really aren't all that bad

>>4797884
>since I just take the coffee I offered the treats for others
You should really stop drinking coffee caffeine dependency is awful otherwise cool

>>4798073
>Avoidance strategies are among the least destructive though so you're not in the worst shape.
What are the other strategies?

>>4798073
its hard to integrate when I despise what most people do or believe in. Everyone is shallow and artificial

>>4798073
Where were you to tell me this 20+ years ago? lol Its good advice.
Infuriates me to no end how many sessions with shrinks I sat through in my younger years only for it to be a complete waste of time and money, AND having to just eventually figure this shit out on my own (by then it was too late though). Psychiatry should be banned- its a sham.

>>4797884
Lovely progression anon, keep it up!

The most wholesome thread on this god forsaken hell site. <br>Thank you for sharing this, anon, I hope you continue to have nice things happen to you.


Life on earth peaked in the Cretaceous period

>>4797901
No but I'd love to watch them live their lives, from a safe distance of course

>>4797918
Triassic was very cool but it still doesn't reach the insanity of the Cretaceous.
Also the Cretaceous had flowers which automatically makes it better

>>4797897
Imagine hearing
>Craken vs Moby Dick
And thinking
>Would have been better if they were both lizards

>>4798570
Good question, I mean it's just an efficient system, having other creatures carry out your reproductive process. I think ants were the first pollinators but don't quote me on that. Grass also didn't evolve until the late Cretaceous, 70 million years ago

>>4797897
Why did they have such long necks they seem painfully vulnerable.

Megafauna certainly peaked in the Cretaceous.<br>Why was everything so huge?

>>4797901
being an animal sucks ass unless you're one of those spoiled domestic dogs

>>4798695
>they seem painfully vulnerable.
They are

>>4798655
I miss ammonites so much, bros.

>>4799130
Just deal with nautilus or argonauts dude, it's not that hard.

imagine being dropped off in a creaceous ocean, animals aside, just the amount of water alone would be terrifying

>>4799196
Oceans today are so small, wherever you drop you can just swim to the nearest shore.

>>4797897
Correct and I'm bringing them back.

>>4799196
>>4799760
How much more water are we talking exactly?

>>4800530
The oceans in the Cretaceous weren’t bigger, but between the Tethys Sea and the fact that the isthmus of Panama didn’t exist, there was an uninterrupted tropical ocean from ~100mya to ~30mya and this made the oceans way more productive and the land wetter. Sea levels were a bit higher due to Antarctica not being centered on the South Pole and thus an ice sink, and the Arctic Ocean wasn’t so tightly encircled, which prevented permanent sea ice in the north, too, but the Western Interior Seaway in North America was mostly due to isostatic depression due to the weight of the Appalachian mountains and the beginning of the formation of the Rockies

>>4798402
flowers are for faggots though

>>4801245
>not being able to appreciate pretty flowers
How dreary your life must be

>>4798561
>Preferring this dumb, blocky looking motherfucker with no top teeth
What a loser


Invasives you can't help but like

Florida wouldn't be the same without these guys running all over the place

different Florida lizards, at least these guys aren't fucking with any native lizards

>>4797720
>>4797726
do they really even count as invasive when they're so close? eventually im sure they would have rafted over to florida after a bad hurricane. in fact its surprising they didn't already.

My family have a summer home near https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marat<wbr>ea where some super cute squirrel from Thailand has been introduced and is supposedly fucking up agriculture in the area. It's even worse in the North, somewhere near Turin, they say. But those squirrels are too cute. I don't know what they're called to post pictures of, but they're very, very cute.

Paulownia. It's fast growth and big ass leaves tempt me every spring.

>>4797744
Finlayson's squirrel. Nutty lil' niggas

>>4797744
Can't upload pics because reasons but I found out what they're called:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finla<wbr>yson%27s_squirrel

>>4797751
Yup, those're the ones. I just posted >>4797752 after finding it out for myself. Super fucking cute. I hear they're moving further north into my region, Campania, but I haven't seen any.

>>4797733
Idk about brown anoles given greens themselves only rafted over a few million years before them but green iguanas would not have colonized the Caribbean nearly as rapidly without man fucking over Cyclura populations

>>4797720
Those things are invasive? We have them here and I’m in the middle of nowhere.
>>4797771
>but green iguanas would not have colonized the Caribbean nearly as rapidly
Very true. We only managed to get our population down a few years back and they’re still fairly common. Wish it would have been the Blue Iguana that was so successful


Hate to kill a thread but is that a really small elephant or really big humans?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5A<wbr>F4kS1FS0
Google tells me the average female asian elephant is 8.5 feet tall. Let's say that's a small specimen at 7.5 feet tall. That's not a difference of greater than 8 inches. The tallest guy on the left is like 6'8

>>4798006
This is 100% a juvinile.
The smallest species of elephant is 2.5 meters tall.
None of these guys are over 6 feet tall.

>>4798009
Can juvenile (teenage) elephants have babies?
Aren't their gestation period like 2-3 years? That baby looks like a year old too, or at least a few months
Are we sure that's the mother? Could it be that they're siblings or something

>>4798006
Prolly just a miniphant. They can be even smaller, this one has dwarfism
https://youtu.be/KC-cE5XXwuE?si=POn<wbr>48l9dDbqzB9Zq


What kind of moth is this?

is it nocturnal?<br>will I kill it if I capture it?

>>4798007
Unless you are rough on it it should survive being captured.
Most of them do not have mouths, so they only live for a week.

>>4798010
what is the average lifespan of an adult moth?
could I keep it as a pet somewhere in my room or would it live better out in the wild outside?

>>4798010
They only eat during the larval stage or what? Wtf

>>4798028
Generally yeah. Moths are fucking weird.

>>4798022
Short, couple weeks or a month at tops, sometimes as few as a few days. They want to fuck while adults, and nothing else is particularly important to them. So they wouldn't get that inside as a "pet" but also wouldn't get eaten - unknown whether being eaten is better than starving to death.

There's a "moth guy" in the bug thread who can give you more info, but they're basically the bromeliad flower of bugs: pretty and a sign the organism is about to die.

>>4798007
Reclusive brown moth, known for their acidic saliva

>>4798028
Same thing with butterflies. They hustle to eat as a caterpillar and then live for a week as an adult to mate. a lot of bugs have something similar.


Mice are an infestation. They need to be eradicated. They are not unproblematic just because you think they look "cute" in pictures. Few things are more disgusting than a mouse scuttling through the rooms of your house or hearing them inside the walls.
Mice are the genuine cockroaches among mammals.
>not rats?
Watch less cartoons. Rats infest sewers and warehouses. The ones infesting ordinary houses are mice, and thus I have a stronger opinion on mice.

Basically, roundhouse kick mice.

Mice don’t look cute, rats do (at least not the bigger ones) also, if you got a mice problem in your walls, place your phone by the vents and play the audio of their natural predators. They’d leave and after awhile, never come back.

>>4797959
I agree they suck. I’d love to try to tame some kind of predator and just start a ratting company killing mice and rats
>>4798017
> if you got a mice problem in your walls, place your phone by the vents and play the audio of their natural predators. They’d leave and after awhile, never come back.
Now this I wanna see done…

>>4798274
Well. I think one *person* does. I wanna extend it to martens and whatever else though

>>4798316
>Martys Mustelids for all your rodent woes
Anon, shows up to crawl through your walls to get his weasel
>Try our 3 for one mad ferret Friday deal


Just found out about donkey nannies, which are donkeys used to carry newborn lambs down the mountains for seasonal grazing.

Wrong anon. They are called donkey taxis.

How do the baby lambs know how to get in and out of the bag things?? How did a stupid donkey """evolve""" to know how to do this?? Something is not adding up, atheists!!

>>4798089
Sheep larva are actually marsupials

Donkeys are cute. I would get one for my imaginary homestead if they didn't make those terrible noises.

>>4797925
That’s sick. Where is this done?
>>4798196
> if they didn't make those terrible noises.
That’s alwYs the dealbreaker for everyone Kek


>>4798018
>smaller
>bigger
shrimpbros… can we still compete…….??

>>4798018
Why don’t prawns just invent tools already?

>>4798444
*ptsd flashbacks to the shitshow thread from months ago*


So these are just kinda...? Water doggos? <br>And they hunted 90% of the billion year standing lineages of nautilus to death in a handful million years?

>>4798112
>So these are just kinda...? Water doggos?
have you never been to one of those oceanic entertainment venues with a trained seal who does tricks?
because yes, they are extremely doglike.

>>4798115
on earth we call those "aquariums"

>>4798133
I was talking more Seaworld and that restaurant that's like Medeival Times but its pirates

>>4798141
> that restaurant that's like Medeival Times but its pirates
is the food good?

>>4798112
I remember an anon here saying they were among the likeliest animals today to be domesticated because they’re so friendly or something. Don’t know how true it is but they are similar in disposition to dogs

>>4798162
IDK the whole place smells like an aquarium so that can kinda defeat your appetite but they had an animatronic glow-in-the-dark skeleton come out of the central pool and it was like 16 feet tall so overall a cool experience.

>>4798164
I think domesticating anything aquatic would be incredibly hard on the long term.
We could try however adding them the genes dogs have for being nice and domestic and then selective breeding them a handful generations (which is hard bc they are aquatic duh)

Their Amphibian ancestors however would have been a cool and maybe plausible domestic animal

>>4798461
I think mermen could use them as hunting doggos to capture sharks.

>>4798164
>>4798461
The problem is that they smell like shit.

>>4798152
Seal is already a contraction of sea wolf, they needed a different animal.

>>4798461
that’s just an extra large otter silly
>>4798481
this

>>4798590
Ptters are just water weasels. Sea lions look more doggish

>>4798112
They are more related to weasels snd bears, ackshully.

>>4798658
that one in the pic really does just look like a otter though

>>4798164
>>4798461
They are indeed, but their habitat was recognised as a barrier that naturally prevented any domestication from happening.

>>4798164
They'd need a huge body of water to be happy
Imagine all the owners neglecting them by just giving them a kiddie pool

>>4798828
>Imagine all the owners neglecting them by just giving them a kiddie pool
That would add a whole new dimension to those animal rescue shows. They break into some meth head's backyard and there is just this depressed seal with clown make up lying in a dirty kiddie pool.

>>4798766
Bullshit. If you've ever spent time observing seals you'll notice their behavioural patterns are surprisingly canine. So much so that when dogs and seals encounter each other there's a familial interaction pattern.

>>4798972
They're all in the caniformia suborder.

>>4798461
>I think domesticating anything aquatic would be incredibly hard on the long term.
Explain Koi and Goldfish.

>>4800178
>Explain Koi and Goldfish
They are not the size of large dog while juvenile anon.


Are snakes the only animals in the entire history of life on Earth to ever hunt prey by wrapping their bodies around it and squeezing?

>>4798108
no my onahole does that every night

>>4798108
I know some eels do this. But some raptors like owls also use their feet to constrict their prey and make them go into cardiac arrest, just like the pythons and boas.

>>4798197
pretty sure most of the heavy lifting of an owls kills are its talons but I guess squeezing helps

hm if you think about it snakes kill by hugging to death

>>4798243
What fucking drugs are you using?

A lot of big cats' killing is done not by ripping put the throat as previously thought, but just crushing the windpipe and choking them out.<br>But yea that's pretty far from snake constricting.


Micro-falconry

Has anyone gotten into micro-falconry? I'm always fascinated by bird of prey, but they are not legal to own in my state except for purpose of falconry/hunting.

Some people have gotten around the legislation by just doing "micro-falconry" - e.g., owning small bird of prey like kestrel (which is much lower cost and maintenance), then going out to the field once a week or once every two weeks and have their kestrel just kill bunch of rats and pests. Sounds like it can be fun.

>>4798135
A kestrel isn’t as noob friendly as a larger bird and costs just as much a larger bird too; food is the only thing you’d spend less on. I guess you’d be fine with a cheaper thinner glove instead of a gauntlet or even going barehanded, but most other equipment, housing, and maintenance supplies are going to be about the same and they still should be flown as often as possible. With the metabolism on a kessie, I don’t even know if you’d have a smaller volume of shit to clean up either. Their behavior is pretty fun though. So is watching em catch a fat grasshopper in midair.

Most of the annoyance of training a kestrel is just that you don’t have as much leeway for keeping them at the right weight to cooperate with you, they’re really really easy to just overfeed. Small fractions of a gram are enough to A) go flying away forever because they certainly aren’t hungry enough to hunt and don’t want anything you’re offering, or B) flying away forever because they were so hungry they immediately gorged on their catch before you could trade a tidbit with them and now they’re back to being in the mood for option A before a larger predator decides to ambush them.

>>4798135
What >>4798168 said.
Falconry isnt something to dabble in. Your best bet for getting into it is to apprentice a professional, and they'd probably require you to have some previous experience and/or qualifications working with animals, specifically birds.

>>4798168
>>4798176
Thanks bros. I guess falconry ain't for me. I'll just try to volunteer at my local raptor rescue in the summer and see how it goes.

>>4798210
This is the best thing to do. You can get all the enjoyment with no real responsibility because you just do what you are told. As the other anon said, Kestrels are very difficult to keep and larger raptors like Red-Tailed are the most common 'beginner' bird for a reason. In addition, in my state this loophole would not work because you have to have an apprenticeship with a master falconer to own any raptor regardless of size.

>>4799385
I was inspired by this news piece about falconry
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKv<wbr>kNxCv6jw

I don't mind taking apprenticeship, seems like a cool hobby and good way to meet people.

But my living conditions now (I live in apartment, 1st floor, with a small yard) do not allow for owning such large bird like redtail.

>>4799897
My state requires a dedicated mews with a minimum size for any raptor, apartment dwellings would not be allowed even for a Kestrel. By all means look into it but it is a lot of work and any mention of your original rationale for looking at Kestrels would be a red flag to any potential mentor. Raptors, if you are looking at them from the perspective of owning a bird as a pet, are really poor choices because of how much more work it is to care for them properly.

Whats with all the regulations around falcons
Its a fucking bird. We dont regulate dogs with wolflike child eating tendencies (shitbulls) even nearly this much. Instead, people want the regulation itself banned even though such dogs basically “belong in the wild” where they wont eat their owners children.

What’s really stopping me from stealing some falcon eggs and getting my own bird?

>>4800688
I assume you’d get arrested if you’re found like with possession of any wild animal but yes there is a lot of red tape around raptors/falcons for some reason

>>4801084
The reason is precisely to stop retards like >>4800688 from owning raptors.