Corvid Thread - Crows, Ravens, Magpies

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>>4684380
No offense but he looks pretty stupid for a crow.

>>4684416
He's a crow of many talents:
>He's an aerobatic pilot
>a royal food taster. Very proactive.
>a gifted painter with special talent in using titanium white. Also very proactive.
>sysadmin with special talent in assembling keyboards. Proactive too.
The list goes on and on.

Good video.
Locally I feed jackdaws. They're far more flock-based than other corvids, so they stay wary of humans and don't come close. They know I'm a food bringer, they will signal to each other if I turn up and signal way more if I turn up with my magical box that contains peanuts, but they haven't shown any willingness to come within touching range and I am not gonna push it. I respect them as wild animals first, and they don't owe me fake internet points for posing or anything.

Recently a couple magpies have been getting feisty with trying to take all the nuts if they're around, and the bird turf war is entertaining enough. I'm not taking sides.

>>4684380
Mfw crows are thinkpad posters
Based

>>4685093
any way to make friends with them? I saw a group of like 9-10 magpies sitting on the ground and squawking. What do they like eating during the winter? They’re also pretty tame and usually don’t run away from people if they’re not being actively chased.

Hate how its illegal to tame them in my country. Didn't stop my grandfather though, he hand reared a sick young crow when my father was younger. Out of all the pets he owned that crow was the best companion he ever had, well, atleast better than the 2 owls.

>>4688576
What species is that? They have a distinct gray beak and I only ever see them around streams outside of vienna. The others all are grey crows and sometimes carrion crows.

>>4688758
They're rooks, the coolest looking corvids.

>>4692978
and also gave the local crows a piece. Merry Christmas little crow
(had to record from far away because one of the crows is kinda shy)

>>4692987
>one of the crows is kinda shy
Last year I was in medical rehab for five weeks, nice park outside, territory of three crows.
So I made friends with them. Really nice to see the different personalities. One would almost eat from my hand by the end. Another was always super nervous and would freeze if I just looked at her from 10meters.
Picture is the three of them watching the duck that showed up one day and would eat all the rest of the food that was left over and just not worth it to pick up for the crows.
It was closely watched for hours, that suspicious dumb bird, but they never bullied or attacked it, no reason to.
Fun birds.

>>4693056
>One would almost eat from my hand by the end. Another was always super nervous and would freeze if I just looked at her from 10meters.
I'm currently having success with this strategy:
>slav squat to make myself as small as possible
>turn my body 45 degrees to the side
>don't look at the crow
>slooowly throw food in their direction
it's really hard to throw without startling them but it's doable with the right technique
today i successfully managed to get one as close as 70 centimeters to me
sadly, my crow drove the other crow away to monopolize the food
the shy crow is always in a tree and super nervous when their friend is this close to me
sometimes the shy crow even "warns" the other crow to fly away from me even though no enemy is in sight.

>>4685094
that is not fine at all i want to see them 24/7

>shitty rainy day today
>looking out the back door
>see a handful of ravens dicking around in the tree
>grab a bag of peanuts
>go out and shake the bag, think at least one of the ravens saw me doing it
>pour the peanuts in the bird feeder
>ravens ignore me and don't go to the peanuts
Do they not like peanuts, bros?

>>4693070
>sometimes the shy crow even "warns" the other crow to fly away from me even though no enemy is in sight.
They even have different warning calls for humans, cats and dogs.
We know surprisingly little about crow's social interactions amongst themselves. I hope more research is done.
Anyways. Yeah, they pay a lot of attention to where and if you can see them. Mine would prefer to land behind me, then start move around.
The shy one definitely was always checking where I was looking at, with pretty surprising precision. The other two even would give her food, but it was pretty obvious it was a breeding pair and one of their grown up kids.
After that whole thing, getting out of rehab, I moved again, now I have a pair of really nice looking eurasian magpies, based closely around my garden spot. The place wasn't claimed by crows for most of the year, but about two months ago a murder, hah, of about four claimed it as their territory. In effect, they just show up about once every two hours, bully the magpies a bit, the move on again.
Almost not cats here, tons of dog people. Funny enough, I saw one of the magpies picking up worms and stuff with one of the few cats just like 2m away. They both totally ignored each other.
Well, I would say a fully grown magpie is just about the limit of what a sensible cat will attack.
Not all cats are sensible though, I saved a 1m+ snake from a cat earlier this year. It decided to play dead when it was near the weight of the fucking cat. Only mildly posionous thought, I'm in Switzerland. Pic following.

>>4693753
Apparently they can "pretend" to bleed and excrete some drops of blood on demand.
Fucking nature is weird.
Anyways, it survived that afternoon, the cat in question didn't really know what to do with it anyways and gave up because pesky humans accumulated around the snakey. A bunch of kids watched it for while...no problem with youths being fascinated by nature.

>>4684380
>>4684411
I thought so too, I saw this webm posted on another board recently and was wondering if it was crow war anon

>>4695138
Yes it's me. War is developing in our favor.
I'm doing it like the Chinese once did and offer them food every day as tribute.
Works alright. The crows now allow my crow to have a territory of 200 square meter.
It's not much, but at least I can now leave him alone during the day.

By the way, today the hawk decided to hunt pigeons. He picked one several times mid air and the feathers that went flying each time looked like fireworks.
They both eventually came down. Me and the other crows then came to the rescue and drove the hawk away.
Pigeon seems to be fine.

>>4684380
New kino just dropped
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-H<wbr>F-wBwQsc

>>4696637
Gonna show this to my crow tomorrow when we wake up

all corvids are united in their hate of hawks<br>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJB<wbr>IMwHDjXE

>>4697141
There is a Magpie who figured out that I always feed the crows at the same place.
Do you want to name him?

>>4697343
Tiramisu it is
>>4695816
For the past 3 days, the hawk and heir offspring are flying attacks on the pigeons and crows. 5 attacks so far.
Looks like someone is going to die soon.

>>4695816 (me)
>I'm doing it like the Chinese once did and offer them food every day as tribute.
>Works alright. The crows now allow my crow to have a territory of 200 square meter.
This are the two crows i have to pay tribute to every day
The first one is Theodore, he is as bold as a goose.
And the cowards name is Roswita.
I'm looking forward to this march in hope of seeing them raise offspring.
I was wondering why I didn't see any offspring last summer, so i assume the chicks probably died.
I hope it works out this time. I will keep you all updated.

>>4697343
>Tiramisu.
Here is a video of Tiramisu.
The first bird is a jay. He doesn't have a name yet.
Tiramisu jumps on the left side of the fence during timestamp 00:06
I'm currently thinking about a way on how to build a crow-proof contraption that allows me to feed him and the other magpies.
Bonding with the Magpies seems kind difficult with this many crows around.

Oops, completely forgot to post this webm of my crow experiencing snow for the first time in his live.

>>4699849
is my crow doing this correctly?

>>4700867
>>4700928
He's cute. I appreciate your updates anon. How do you tell the invader crows apart? Is it just by their behavior or do they actually look slightly different?

>>4700991
I have to tell them part by behavior alone.
The behavior of Roswita and Theodore is like night and day so it's easy to tell them apart.
Roswita usually sits in a tree and observes me and my crow and Theodore.
Theodore is territorial against other Crows.
Roswita the Coward is only territorial against Magpies, and only if those are alone (lol).
The is a far away tree where only Roswita sits in, so whenever I see a crow in that tree, I know that the other crow has to be Theodore.
Funnily enough, it's sometimes hard to tell my crow and Theodore apart since both are territorial, greedy and bold.
When in doubt, I approach the crow. If it flies away, then it was Theodore.
(Approaching while holding eye contact is still a no no)
A few weeks ago there was a fourth crow here. Usually those are driven away by Theodore, but on this occasion Theodore barely tried to drive it off. He tried a little bit, but very half-heartedly. He eventually allowed that 4th Crow to sit next to him and his wife, which surprised me.
I liked that crow, he came near me to inspect me and my crow.
If this crow were here more often, I would have a lot of trouble telling them apart.

>>4700928
That is clearly a human who got transformed into a crow.

>>4701313
I told him the antidote is in his wallet

any funny video ideas or memes i could do with my crow?

Is it actually possible to befriend random-ass crows in your area and make them trade you random junk for food?
I've read some stories about people doing this on the internet and it sounds cool, but at the same time I feel like the stories are overblown and that's maybe a one in a thousand case and in most other cases you can make them hang around at a certain place at a certain time every day to wait for you to feed them, at best.
From lurking this thread it sounds like it is at least possible to befriend them.
Also I assume there is no way to attract them to your home, if they don't hang out there already? So if I want a crow buddy I'd need to find spots around my home where they usually hang out?

>>4703094
>in most other cases you can make them hang around at a certain place at a certain time every day to wait for you to feed them, at best.
Yeah that's consistent with my experience. My pet crow fell out of a nest.
And Theodore just waits for me at a certain place with his wife.
Roswita would never come near me alone. Not in a million years.
>From lurking this thread it sounds like it is at least possible to befriend them.
Yup.
>Also I assume there is no way to attract them to your home, if they don't hang out there already?
Could you describe the area around your home? Maybe draw a map? Most territories are taken by crows. The only two places near me where are no crows are a dense forest and an open field where the hawks hunt. All other places are taken by crows.
Maybe they just don't have a reason to land near you? If you provide food, they should start hanging around more often.

>>4697735
While I feel for the pigeons, the hawks must eat too and it’s expensive for them to attack. Don’t interfere with their catches

>>4700867
Absolutely precious. God bless you and your crows anon.

>>4703564
I eventually chose a less intrusive way of protecting the crows by just sitting on a chair in my front yard reading a book.

>>4703108
>Could you describe the area around your home?
I live in a village in the middle of Germany that looks kinda like this (can't find a good areal shot of my actual village). I live a few roads away from the edge. (I wasn't sure on what scale you'd like to have a map)
I'm a little split on whether or not it's worth getting into crow-befriending, or however you want to call this hobby, now, since I plan to move from here within the year. But at the same time I want to give it a go now, while the motivation is there, so I don't lay it off until later and lose interest in it by the time I move to the new place.

Yesterday I actually visited a friend in a nearby village and spotted two crows on an intersection. I honestly never payed attention to them until recently, but so far when going on walks I didn't see any crows, just a few other birds, but I'm no expert so not exactly sure what kind they were. I spotted a bunch of nests in a treeline along the edge of the village, but no idea if any of those belong to crows.

How to make corvid friend, but not pet? Should I just start putting seeds in my backyard?

>>4706156
They're pretty and smart and funny.

>>4705826
shelled peanuts and once a week hard boiled eggs with shells
no salt

>>4684380
Are jackdaws corvids? They seem pretty smart.

Every morning when the color of the sky shifts from black to dark dark blue, this little fella flies over to my bed and sits on my chest and waits for me wake up.

It's interesting how the behavior of crows changes when the weather gets colder.
Let me elaborate:
My crow likes to sit in a tree right in front of my doorstep.
Pic related is another crow. That's Theodore. He sometimes comes over and drives my crow away and sits at his spot.
Theodore then raises all his head feathers and starts screaming like he owns the place.
Since I don't want to encourage this behavior, I never feed Theodore in front of my doorstep and just ignore him until he leaves.
So far, it always played out like this.
Here's the deal. Recently we had -7 degrees Celsius. And Theodore suddenly was super polite and didn't drive my crow away. He was sitting in front of my doorstep next to my crow and they shared their food.
He usually never comes down to the ground.
I made an exception and decided to feed him in front of my doorstep for a few days.
Then after a few days, the weather got warmer again and Theodore went back to his usual behavior.

>>4706705
That's adorable. Does he sleep inside your place or outside, can he get in or out at any time? And what are you doing with him in the morning?

>>4706725
You're letting that faggot crow walk all over you and your other bird friends with his niggerish behavior? Sounds like he deserves the .22

>>4706731
Our morning routine is that he gets headpats and food. Then we go outside and feed the other crows.
Sometimes I oversleep and he goes outside without me. I'm sure he then feeds the crows like we usually do. (lol, I wish).
>>4706732
You assertion is correct, but this is the best course of action. All alternatives would lead to a worse result. Crows will not simply vanish when you shoot them. This territory is very suitable for nesting. Once or twice a week we get attacks from other crows which want to claim this nesting territory.
And I need my crow to interact with other crows because he needs to learn the language and needs to learn where the roosting tree is.
Roswita already accepts my crow.
And we made huge progress with Theodore.
Back in June, he would constantly drive my crow out of this territory to a place without food where nothing grows except moss.
Now, my crow and Theodore share the same territory and all Theodore sometimes does is steal my crows favorite spot in the tree.
That's acceptable. Now I can go to work without worrying that my crow is overdosing on moss.
I have to admit that someone asked the local hunter to shoot Theodore.
I vetoed that because of the progress we made.

>>4688758
>vienna
sorry you have to live near hell
was auch immer - der Vogel heißt Saatkrähe

>>4685058
would i have to declare that as taxable income in my tax return?

oh thank you for picking up my glove, my left hand feels chilly. Could you please hand it ov-

>>4697085
not just hawks but h*rned owls too

>>4685094
Considering pidgeons regularly scare crows by acting tough this is pretty wrong.

>>4707112
it's gone
a few month ago he stole my earbud
still haven't gotten it back

>>4707377
>earbud
I keep losing the tips on those. Had to buy a hundred pack online. I really like my ancient-ass wired earbuds tho so it's worth it imo.
Izzit wurffit losing a glove to have a crowbud?

>>4707415
>Izzit wurffit losing a glove to have a crowbud?
not that anon but i would gladly lose both my gloves to have a crowbud

>>4707442
Yeah.
That was a dumb thing to ask since we all would. I would give a crowbud all the gloves s/he could ever want (except for one I particularly love because reasons).
And even that one was only rejected after some consideration.

>>4707492
how many crows for that premium glove?

>>4707492
i'll make you a crowffer you can't refuse

>>4707492
regarding that one special glove. i would like offer you 6 crows for it.
*extends open hand towards you*
deal?

>>4707492
4 crows?
and you are allowed to visit your dads baseball glove on the weekends?

>>4707492
2 crows and you can keep the glove, but i'm allowed to visit it on weekends

>>4707496
I made the glove from yarn I spun myself from alpaca wool I harvested myself. I only managed to harvest enough wool to make enough yarn for one scarf and a single glove and I like that glove. People think I'm weird with my one glove, I'm sure, but if it gives people something to talk about, I'm happy with that.
I've got a pair of conductive gloves for using on touch screens I'd be happy to part with. And some acrylic ones, too.

My birb is breaking off small twigs from bushes.
I guess it is that time of the year.
I'm just wondering if he picked this up from Theodore and Roswita or if it's just instinct.
He's only 7 month old, which means he collects twigs for ME so I can build a nest.
Problem is, I'm not really planning on building a nest this spring...

>>4711131
>crow adolecents help their parents build nests
I did not know this.

I was curious what the literature says about this. Pic related.

Story from last autumn:
>go outside to look after the birds
>Theodore and Roswita make noises like when they are under attack
>Both of them fly away in opposite directions, leaving the territory
>wtf, never saw them this spooked
>Look at the sky to see where the hawk is
>There is no hawk
>Why would they be this spooked when no hawk is around?
>Hear footsteps
>Turn around
>Hunter: "Hey Anon"
>Me: "Hello. Do the crows recognize you?"
>Hunter points at his dog while holding up his rifle
>Hunter: "I always have these with me when I'm here. It's possible that they recognize me"
Since then I always know when the Hunter is around because he has his own boss music which sounds like scared crows.

>>4709907
They bathe at least daily, given the chance. The murder I was watching even did it together.
Don't know if that's the case in winter though.
>>4711336
Afaik, they help protect the nest for example. Offspring can stay with parents up to five years, sometimes longer. When leaving they usually join a group of other younglings, pair up and start their own family.
Those that survive. Something like 80% actually don't.

Pic: Closest I've ever got. Well, in front of me, would come up to like 50cm (1'8") on my back. Smart.

until yesterday, this was the status quo

>>4714255
T&R started building a nest yesterday, which means they are especially territorial today.
Additionally, the temperature dropped by 5 degrees again, which is also an environmental cue for Theodore to become more territorial.
I heard a lot of distressed crow noises today from all directions.
There was one sound that stood out to me, which came from slightly east from the roosting tree.
Until today, i only knew that sound from my crow. He makes that sound only when he's immobilized or in fear of death.
I hear it very rarely, maybe once every three months. Hearing it today made me panic a bit.
The call sounds a bit like when you push a wooden table over the floor without lifting it.
It was probably one of T&R's relatives who made that call.
I wouldn't be surprised if Theodore one day get's offed by his flock for this behavior.

dunno why he does that sometimes, any ideas?

>Episode #345 of my crow not understanding important social cues
(with sound)
https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/170620089777<wbr>2033.webm
Their interactions always go like this.
Theodore always has his head feathers raised and makes this sound.
And my Crow always picks the ground.
Any Idea what the ground picking could mean?

>>4714329
Crows are feeding their chicks by putting their beaks inside the chick's beak.
I don't know if they keep this behavior during adulthood but your crow is only 7 months old anyway.

>>4697141
I once saw a pitch black magpie. It was really cool. I'm still mad that I didn't get a picture though.

Crows are the only birds I get to see during the winter. The other day, I saw one doing a runway walk in the snow. It made tracks all over the front and back yards.

>>4684380
Lol those are the same ancient shitty laptops I used to use in middle and high school

>>4715503
>shitty
You misspelled perfect.
I'm still using this very X220 today.

Saw a raven today for the first time in my life.
T&R flew to it to greet it, the they realized that it's a bit bigger than a crow and simply sat there 5 meters away from it.
Funny, if it were a hawk, they would've bullied it relentlessly.

Why are none of you masked up, cant you see all the covids itt?!?

Could someone shed some light as to what exactly is the jackdaw trying to achieve here? What are the birds that it's bullying?

>>4717235
Nevermind, I guess I have my answer.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jtw<wbr>0qC186BA

>>4714329
>>4718754
Anyone else thinking what I'm thinking?

>>4717245
Faggot interfering with the jackdaws rightful revenge.

>>4718853
You're not responsible for your parents faults.

>>4718947
By protecting the fledlings he's allowing genetic predisposition to cloacablocking jackdaws to propagate. Don't say I didn't warn you when your yard is full of incel corvids.

>>4718951
I know what you mean, there are always unknown consequences.
By the way, I'm a poor fag and don't have a yard but incel corvids are welcome in my flat.

>>4714255
Team yellow died. Presumably a Hawk attack, because my birb was unsuccessfully attacked the same day.

Hey /an/,
i need some advice regarding crows and i would like to ask you for help.
In my garden are two crows,
one energetic, greedy, territorial crow
and his/her sidekick, a crow that is very shy, only eats small amounts, and rarely makes any calls.
In the rare cases when the shy crow does make calls, the calls are very rough with a deep voice.
Both of them seem to be a pair, but the energetic crow often steals food from the shy crow. I rarely see the shy crow eat. But i think it does eat sometimes. My current theory is that the shy crow eats once in the morning and then chills all day, preserving energy.
It's breeding season, and they seem to be nest building.
I noticed that they didn't manage to produce living offspring last year.
Here are some questions:
>Is it save to assume that the shy crow is old because of the deep voice and general passiveness and shyness?
>Will the energetic crow actually feed the shy crow during nesting (if the shy crow is female)? The energetic crow doesn't strike me like someone who likes to share food.
>Could it be that the energetic crow is stealing so much because of parasites? should i consider feeding them a dewormer?
>I'm worried that the only reason the shy crow survived this winter was me, how likely is that?

>>4718971
I own a house but there are no corvids near it. Only birds were get are starlings, finches (purple and house), house sparrows, doves/pigeons, hawks, annoying fucking owls and American "robins."
A little bit further away, there are other birds, including crows, but none come to my yard. It's sad when I get excited for fucking finches because they're the most colourful visitors I get.
I would trade them all for a crowbud. But not my glove.

do ravens and crows understand that they look kinda similar? does it change anything?

Living with a crow is exactly like untitled goose game.

>The year is 2027.
>The hawks continue to subjugate the crows' territory under their imperialist policies.
>Spurred by their belief in accipitridae supremacy their attacks and abuse have grown more and more frequent,
>culminating in a large scale raid on the roosting tree claiming the lives of multiple juvenile crows as well as of those yet unhatched.
>The leaders of the murder, Theodore and Roswita, together with the honorable Crow Anon are forced to make a decision.
>Through their extensive spy network of carrier pigeons they managed to uncover the malevolent hand guiding their winged oppressors:
>The neighbor from the yellow house down the road.
>And in view of the last hope at victory the three leaders, begging for forgiveness from god, have asked for a sacrifice from a group of their best.
>A group that would be trained and would willingly lay down their lives for a purpose that was greater than any one of them.
>For the plight of their kind at the talons and beaks of their enemies had left them but one choice:
>Jihad.

Eurasian magpies and a Raven.<br>They didn’t really attack each other or anything

>>4684456
>a gifted painter with special talent in using titanium white. Also very proactive.
kek

>>4723497
Lol
>>4726157
>>4726162
Looks like my crow is slightly malnourished. Theodores feathers are way darker. I will take care of that.

One of them has a twig in their mouth.<br>I have the suspicion they might be doing the sex soon.

>>4726197
Offered them some materials.
A few elastic twigs, one hand of straw, and some mud.
Dunno which mud they like the most, I offered yellow, gray and red.

>>4726167
>my crow is slightly malnourished
Don't forget to give him animal sourced food. I've heard crows and ravens eat robin's eggs so perhaps quail eggs are just small enough for a crow to enjoy.
If you don't mind live feeding and creepy-crawlies, mealworms are another good option. You can even raise your own fairly easily

These are the smartest birds on the planet, and also among the smartest animals in general right? I love watching them scavenge in the roads when I'm driving because they understand the flow of traffic.

>>4693749
Birds are such an aesthetic animal. Very good character designs.

>>4700928
Unfuckingreal how intelligent they are that it would know how to dig through a fucking wallet.

>ex-wife hates birds cause she's an idiot
>Tell her not to fuck with the crows
>She fucks with the crows
>Intentionally chases them out of the yard when she goes to her car and tells them to fuck off
>Crows start shitting on her car, shit bombing her and swooping at her whenever she goes to her car
>I told you about the crows you dumb bitch
>Crows never bother me or shit on my car, give them food sometimes
She hates crows more than any other bird to this day lol

if a crow falls down in a forest and no one is around to hear it, does it make a sqwuak?

>>4726793
your ex-wife needs to drop the negativity and begin enjoying life frfr

Can I train a crow to be nicer towards another crow? There's two at my job but the larger one always tries to bully the smaller, snapping its beak and denies it the seeds I throw out.

My birb brought me a set of keys with an engraving which reads:
>finders reward: 100 bucks
Should I call him out and confront him about this obvious trap or should I pretend to fall for it and play along?

>>4726277
>Birds are such an aesthetic animal. Very good character designs.
God/evolution did it's best while making them.

>>4727063
Holy kek, I refuse to believe this is real

Do ravens remember you like crows do? Can you befriend them?

I want to have a corvid pet but there are none in my country, can you import them from somewhere?<br>I once saw a street vendor that had a pet magpie, so I guess it's possible

>>4727563
I have a similar problem with one dominant crow which likes to steal food from two other crows.
I solved this by putting several heaps of food 10 yards apart. (in a triangle)
The dominant crow can't be at 2 or 3 places at the same time.
The dominant crow will still try to monopolize all 3 heaps.
But after several days it will give up and the crows will get used to this method and will stay at their own heaps of food.
Another method is to find out which crow likes which food and then intentionally put more of one food onto one specific heap.
>>4726252
Thank you for the recommendations. Creating a mealworm farm sounds like fun, I will try it.
My crow already gets a third of an hard boiled egg every 3 days. I had to reduce it to this little because his feathers started smelling sulfuric.
He gets enough magnesium, iron, phosphorus.
Not sure if he gets enough calcium. Probably not. Guess I will buy some baby mice to supplement his diet.

my birb makes better coffee than your bird

can't brew any coffee in this darkness. let's fix that

>>4730573
nooooo!!!
neither the "1 cup" nor the "2 cups" button are beak-compatible!! discrimination!!

>>4730574
Home appliances should be adapted to birds.

>>4730571
>>4730572
>>4730574
Actually pretty impressive
Now train it to scramble some eggs

what does it mean when at sunset one sees literally 1000s of crows flying over head cawing away presumably to find somewhere to roost for the night?

>>4732531
They already know where they will roost, there is an communal roosting tree where all the crows roost in when it's cold or when the weather is really bad.

>>4732687
>communal roosting tree
how would 1000s of crows fit into just a single tree? It's a pretty rare thing to witness 1000s flying overhead at sunset; only seen it a handful of times.

>>4703094
Of course.
>you, you, give us smooth?

Man I love corvids but they never try to approach me when I attempt feeding them, even when I stay for a good while. Magpies, jackdaws, hooded crows, they all hate me..

>>4736254
They don’t hate you, they’re just not comfortable around you. You would know if they hate you.

Look how desperate he clinches to the evidence that could imprison Hillary Clinton.
Bet he would fly away with it.
Not today, little fella.
Gonna burn these papers later.

>>4739253
oh yes, he does that sometimes

>>4732792
Really big tree or really small crows.

i was walking my dog and saw two crows swapping twigs as gifts

but i had the worst camera ever made

Do crows love to use hair like smaller birds?<br>I'm clean shaved and got a big bag of hair to throw out, some local crows are building nests.

>>4742501
They'll take it but short tufts of fur are better. I've seen a crow fledgling who lost a foot because he got it caught in a long hair and hanged by his foot for hours.

Apparently we now have ducks in our territory.<br>None of the crows have spotted them yet.

>>4684380
I've been befriending the crows in my neighbourhood. I've made buddies with one family of 3. I can recognise the big one's crow and he knows who I am. He flies close to me and we went from them being scared af at a distance of 30 ft to trying to get as close as 10 ft now.
One day I'll pet him.
They love peanuts and they can see I'm cracking the shell for them, then throwing up the peanut so when it falls down it cracks a little. Now when I stop feeding them they calmly hang around for a little while before flying off.
I love corvids so much you have no idea.
Although I did cause a bit of a ruckus the other day. The family of 3 share a part of their territory (are crows even territorial?) with a group of 2. I was feeding the family and the other two started fighting with the rest for the nuts. I just purposefully didn't feed the meanies and after a little bit of fighting they were suddenly all 5 standing together seemingly no longer trying to fight.
That was nice although their little air battle was cool to see. Obviously after they calmed down I fed all 5 of them.
I have identified another large group of corvids in a local park. I will be feeding them too. The news will spread about me. They will crow my name and I will feed them. I WILL have my crow army and they WILL love me. And then when I finally control them. I will use them to attack my enemies. There's a reason they're called a murder.

>>4745757
From your description, the three could be vagrant and unrelated juveniles and the two could be the territorial residents. Juvenile crows and ravens gather into vagrant flocks to take food from residents. Last year's children aren't tolerated this time of the year, so close to nesting season. The kids are being evicted, and three unrelated crows would by no means work together at the moment.

>>4745761
I've only been feeding them recently so you might be right. I don't know a lot about crows. I just thought it was a family of 3 like 2 adults and one still growing up but maybe I've been befriending the neighbourhood bullies.
It could explain why when I was feeding the crows today there were only two of them. They're hard to tell apart so I've been trying to focus on their crows. One had a much higher pitched crow and one a deeper pitched. But maybe they can all do those vocalisations and I've been focusing on the wrong thing.
So basically what you're saying is that I thought I was feeding a cute family but instead I've been feeding the neighbourhood thieves. Well this is a turntable turning. On the other hand it doesn't really matter. They're very friendly birds. One is a daredevil flying pretty close to me so it kind of sounds like a young bird being a little brave. Kind of shocking. Never thought I'd be on the side of 'vagrants and juvies'. I'll try to make a pic next time.

>>4745783
Those hoodlums pose a crow and present danger to society.

Don't want to start a new thread for this, but thought someone here might know. What kind of bird is making this sound? Never heard it around here before (Southeast US)<br>https://voca.ro/1d8YAfLnGFuz

I hand fed a crow for the first time today. He probably didn't know who I was but I was in a spot where lots of workers eat lunch so I think he was just completely unafraid of people. He tried yanking the bag out of my hand as I got my phone out and pulled out my camera. Pretty impatient crow but still made my day. 10/10 recommend hand feeding crows

>>4746985
These guys sing outside my house every morning. Very calming when I go for a walk.

Hi frens
This moring a carrion crow was doing something weird to my chicken (pic related). The chicken is almost 13 years old so she mostly just sits around or walks to the next place to sit around.
What the crow was doing looked kind of like a mating/courtship dance, with the wings slightly opened, flapping them a bit and crouching down and gettig up again like a young dog playing. The crow also pecked at my chicken at least once. I've looked up videos of crow courtship rituals and it kinda looks like it, but not exactly, although the videos I saw were of American crows. My chicken flapped her wings to scare it away. The crow was also cawing a lot. I tried scaring it off, but it took like 10-15 seconds for the crow to leave, while they usually fly away at the slightest movement, even when I try my best not to scare them away.

Was crowbro trying to seduce my chicken? Or did he think she was near death?

>>4749157
I don't know about the crow but it's a nice old lady you have here.

>>4711336
According to "In the Company of Crows and Ravens", young crows will sometimes go to live with aunts and uncles to help-out, and definitely do not then fuck their aunt.

>>4706667
They are, they're the smallest European corvid

>>4685058
Funny and clever, but not a corvid

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jungl<wbr>e_myna

Hello guys, west euro guy here, I'd like to become friends with a wild crow. Not in a "you're mine here's your cage" way, but in a "we meet when I go outside and walk together" way.
I know this is possible since a lot of people seem to achieve it, but I need to first build some trust with a crow. The ones in my area are usually pretty shy, and I don't even know where they hang out most of the time.

Is there any guide for this?

>>4751632
You chose a bad time since the egg laying has just started.
Even the crows which usually like me are suddenly wary of me.

Roswita sits on her nest and calls sometimes very quietly.<br>Is this common? Does she demand to get food delivered to her?

I saw a raven while going for a walk today<br>they really stand among the other corvids because it's jetblack and it's huge, I almost mistook it for a bigger bird because of its great wingspan

>>4754426
afaik, female crows caw just before laying but are silent after that to not call attention to the nest.

>>4760122
Close.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maria<wbr>na_crow
Her middle name is Mon.
Mariana Mon Crow.

A few weeks ago the days were getting longer and my birb started to daily sleep for an hour during the afternoon.
He (she) sometimes flew into the house and roosted in the bathroom on the hinged shower door.
I've put a towel on the door to make it more comfy for him (her).
Well, apparently my bird is actually female and apparently the nesting season has an hormonal impact on a 1 year old crow.
I now know this, because my birb started protecting that towel on the shower door with her life.
She even pecked me in the eye ball.
I tested a few roosting locations around the house and outside and the shower towel is the only location which my bird feels territorial about.
She sometimes hisses at me when I'm taking a shit.

>>4762115
Good to know this is a common human-bird situation.
What is it called?

How do I get ravens without getting crows?

>>4718969
I got that reference. I wish I didn't, but I did.

>>4714261
>>4719834
Team yellows territory got inherited by a breeding pair 7 weeks ago.
I befriended them by feeding them regularly. But I had to keep my distance because of the nesting season.
Yesterday and today, one of the crows came to my house to attack my crow.
At least that crow was just dive bombing my crow.
My crow is used to get feathers plucked by Theodore, so a bit of dive bombing is not that severe.
I obviously intervened and started teaching that crow where the borders of my territory are. I wish teaching that was less time consuming.

>>4765716
>8 years
>30 years
why such a huge difference?

>>4769930
Predators and other crows.
Wild crows sometimes can live up to 30 years in the wild.
But usually they die after 8 years because they become weak and or blind and can no longer defend their territory from other crows and they can no longer properly flee from birds of prey or other predetors.
Dunno why this isn't the case with ravens. Probably because they are bigger and predetors are less of a concern even when you are slightly blind and weak.

>>4774788
Tell me about the corvids. Why do they have the mustache?

this is still my 2nd favorite corvid webm

An alien has appeared and my flock has chosen me as their ambassador<br>First contact is made in small steps.

>>4776170
the alien have lowered the ramp to their ship and invited me
That's one small step for crow, one giant leap for corvidea

>>4775616
there is more:
https://desuarchive.org/an/thread/4<wbr>578078/#q4664561
currently i have been to ashamed to draw a new map
when nesting season starts, all friendships are temporarily paused and everyone is an enemy

>>4776194
Very cool.
What type of food do you put out for them, if any?
At the moment I give my neighborhood crows just unsalted peanuts (in shell), but Id like to find something else theyd really love just for some variety (and to ingratiate myself with them more).

Any crow behaviors youve 'discovered' that surprised you while watching them? The crows I feed Ive noticed always do this head bobbing thing looking straight down while making a very faint noise right before launching into some loud cawwing. Its interesting to see, its just like theyre clearing their throat or warming up whatever vocal chord equivalent birds have.

>>4777657
>What type of food do you put out for them, if any?
In winter I've put out lots of nuts. Now during nesting season i feed them less regularly so i wont influence the nutrition of the children.
I give them a third of an hard boiled egg every 3 days or so. It's their favorite food, but giving it out too much could be unhealthy. (Imagine eating a 10th of your body weight in eggs every day, lol)
>At the moment I give my neighborhood crows just unsalted peanuts (in shell), but Id like to find something else theyd really love just for some variety (and to ingratiate myself with them more).
Hard boiled eggs and wet catfood are very popular. The wet catfood usually has some added vitamins and minerals, but sadly it consist of 80% water and leads to diarrhea if served in large quantities. I serve 2 rolling-dice sized servings of wet catfood per crow and usually give nuts as a side dish to reduce the chance of diarrhea.
Favorite nut They are high in magnesium and very healthy for them.

>>4777657
>Any crow behaviors youve 'discovered' that surprised you?
1. It's socially acceptable to overfly other crows territory if you do it at high altitude. Their territory is 3d, while we humans usually think of territory as 2d.
2. Environmental cues are a big thing. Sunset leads to a strong urge to fly back to the roosting tree. During the beginning of sunset the bird is hyperactive for 3 minutes or so, then they suddenly become sleepy.
3. More Environmental Cues. Temperature has the biggest influence on their mood. Drastic changes in temperature lead to drastic changes in mood. When the temperature falls by 10 degrees, they immediately become more territorial and greedy. When the temperature suddenly raises by 10 degrees, they suddenly become as chill as Bob Marley smoking a blunt in a hammock
4. They seem to respect Ravens more than Hawks and Owls.
5. Crows have very light sleep. They wake up 50 times at night from the smallest sound. No need to feel guilty for accidentally waking them up.
6. If a crow annoys you, just stare at it while holding eye contact. They hate this. It makes them very nervous.
7. Territory borders shift during nesting season. Parts of the territory which are too far from the nest are abandoned.
8. My Crow is better at reading human body language than I am, he can read my mind just by looking how i move. When I pretend to catch him, he ignores me and just lets me touch him. When I actually want to catch him, he flies away before I'm even near him.
9. Pattern recognition is off the charts. One day I started using a small can to carry nuts to other crows territory. On the next day, i grabbed the can , and my crow flew ahead to the place where i feed the other crows. Thinking about teaching him sign language.
10. They don't like to get picked up the way you would pick up a duck.
11. A crow that is extremely happy will vibrate its tail while blinking rapidly. it looks like a seizure

>>4777748
>4. They seem to respect Ravens more than Hawks and Owls.
Isn't this just a question of ravens mainly just competing with them for food whereas hawks and owls would see them as prey?

>>4777751
True. This fact was less obvious to me because one of the crows here likes to hunt Hawks. And cats. On bad days also pigeons. And ducks. And herons. Kestrils too. No dogs so far, but it's only a matter of time.

>>4777848
The likelier a hawk is to prey on a crow the greater the evolutional impetus for crows to preemptively attack them, which in turn is an impetus for the hawks to avoid the crows, which then makes attacking the hawks an unnecessary waste of energy and risk of injury, which then reduces the risk from preying on crows, and then you're back at square one. It's interesting to think about how such relationships govern all lifes interactions.

>>4684380
I love webms of crows being idiots but this one in particular kind of gives me anxiety because my X220 is my baby and I would kill any animal that ever tried to do that to mine

bros how do I get the magpies near my house to come near me? I've set up a feeding stand below their nest, which I am as of now not sure if they have left it.

>>4778327
picrel, its the feeding stand, I put food there about every 2 days

>>4778327
By relocating the feeding stand to near your house?
Feeding them directly under their nest will 100% spook them.

>>4777745
I'll have to try a little bit of hardboiled egg or catfood sometime.
>Favorite nut They are high in magnesium and very healthy for them
Which nut?

>>4777748
>If a crow annoys you, just stare at it while holding eye contact
The fact they are so aware of our eye movements and our focus of attention is amazing.
The crows at my work used to flee at the first sign of eye contact. Not so much now that I feed them though.
One of the crows at my house thats the least "peanut motivated" (ie I throw peanuts and he/she doesnt give a shit and takes their sweet time to collect them) I can stare at forever and it doesnt care. The other day it landed about 25ft from me and just chilled, I threw some peanuts and it continued to sit and occasionally preen while we both sorta watched each other.
>They seem to respect Ravens more than Hawks and Owls.
I would too if I was a crow. Hawks/owls are pretty dumb. Id bet a raven could just as easily kill them, or I imagine do something nefarious to them like destroy nests, kill any young, destroy eggs, etc

>>4778382
>I'll have to try a little bit of hardboiled egg or catfood sometime.
>Favorite nut They are high in magnesium and very healthy for them
>Which nut?
Oops. It's Cashews for some crows.
My crow goes to the can full of different nuts and picks all the cashews until the beak is full and then he goes and hides all the Cashews.
Roasted Cashews are preferred.
Unsalted obviously.
Then on the next occasion, my crow will dog through the nutmix in hope of more Cashews. But they are all gone and well hidden.

Official Nutranking:

>S Tier
Roasted unsalted cashews
Raw unsalted cashews

>A Tier
Shelled peanuts
Roasted unsalted peanuts

>B Tier
Raw unsalted peanuts (yes, sadly in B Tier)

>C Tier
Shelled Hazelnuts
Almonds

>D Tier
Hazelnuts
Walnuts

>go to park to feed crows
>just one crow there hanging out in the grass
>toss a peanut in his direction
>he skips over to peanut immediately
>instead of picking it up he starts cawing loud af
>other crows hear and come flying in
>there's now a dozen of them fighting over the peanuts I throw their way
Little guy shouldve kept his fuckin' beak shut and then he wouldnt be having to compete for the nuts. I dont get why they do this sometimes.

>>4727075
Fucking hilarious film tbdesu, Four Lions. Asks the question "what if a group of islamic terrorist bombers were comedically inept" and plays it straight.

>>4767823
I'd forgotten but you made me remember.

>>4778685
You got socialisation-mogged by a crow

Today is my Birbs Birthday!
I made him some Mice shaped cakes with mice filling.
Garnished with white eggshells and on baby mice.
There is enough for everyone, so I will give some of the cakes to the neighborhood crows.
Ingredients for the dough are scrambled eggs with honey.

>>4697141
Magpies sound like a weird fax machine and I love them dearly. It's such a shame we don't have them in my country, sigh.
>>4786515
>>4779673
>>4777611
>>4769805
>>4760323
these images go hard as fuck

>>4777883
why do bluejays get so much hate? they're such pretty birds, and seem to have a lot of character

>>4787455
I heard a lot of people growing up say they hated blue jays but they were confusing them with scrub jays (picrel). Scrubs are LOUD af and love nothing more than to perch in your yard early in the morning and make these piercing squawk noises at random intervals. At 6am its like chinese water torture. If true blue jays are anything like that Id see why people would hate them.
I love jays though because theyre a riot to watch and sometimes have funny encounters/relationships with crows.

>>4750688
>>4788727
When I was a kid, my Grandma had these in her backyard and she somehow trained them to grab peanuts out of your hand if you held one out to them on the balcony.

Theodore and Roswitas nestling fell out of the nest into a backyard full of dogs.
I tried to place it on my dogless property, in hope they would raise it there.
After some time i moved the nesting inside because i was worried about hypothermia.

>>4791996
Are they gonna take revenge on you?

>>4793158
He's alright. Nesting season is stressful because of territorial disputes.
I hope the season ends soon.
I want everyone to be friends again.
>>4793167
I gave em multiple chances to take the nestling back, but they refused.
They were protecting the nestling from the dogs, but they didn't attack me when I picked it up several times.
The vet confirmed that the nestling was ill and the parents kicked it out of the nest to protect the siblings.
Later the day they summoned all the other crows of the flock.
Not sure if they did it because of the nestling or because of other reasons.
I was hiding behind a bush, because I didn't want to risk them teaching the flock that I'm an enemy.
Later the day when they were alone, I offered some food to them, and they accepted the food and didn't seem to hate me.

When you mentally anthropomorphize birds (everyone does this right?), how do you imagine them? I don’t like the birds with arms gifs, and prefer to think of them with their wings folded meaning they have their hands behind their back, in an inquisitive way instead of a weak way.

>>4793285
I imagine crows walking like Morpheus with his arms behind his back

>>4693717
Krummi is stubborn. She will come to you if you are patient and cool enough. Frezh meat is also preferred if possible.

>>4706725
Ravens also have strange feeding behavior like that, according to the book "Ravens in Winter"

>>4775605
>me starting shit between two anons just to watch them sperg

>>4777748
Do Ravens not like being stared at? Everytime I see one, I stare at it like a retard until it leaves eyesight. Should I not do that ?

>>4794784
Depends on your relationship with the corvid.
Looking at them makes them nervous if you are near them. Turning your back at them puts them at ease.
I sometimes stare at two specific crows like a retard/predator. I do this to drive them away and protect my pet crow.
One of the crows will fly away immediately when I look at it.
The other crow nervously jumps around on a branch and constantly looks left and right.
Does the raven notice that you stare at it? How does it react?
If you are buddies with the corvid then staring is fine.
If you are far away then it's also fine.
And if it's a desensitized corvid which Iives in a train station then it probably doesn't even care that you are there.

People start to assume I own a corvid rescue ranch.
This lil fella was brought to me because all rescue facilities were full.
It was found on the ground next to its 3 mauled siblings.

Better quality image.
I noticed some things about it:
>eyes less blueish as I expected
>corner of the mouth not pink?
>mouth inside area as pink as expected
>very small body for a crow which already has this many feathers
Any experts here who could please confirm or refute my observations?

Often when I toss peanuts to crows (and sometimes jays) they caw/squawk at me. I wonder what theyre trying to communicate. Excitement? Gratitude? Bewilderment? Asking 'where's the rest?' <br>The other day I tossed a nut towards a crow Ive fed a few times before and he/she swooped down, stood over the peanut then made a strange caw/honk noise before munching on it. Such funny and odd little birds.

>>4795747
I gave it a proper diet and now the corner if the mouth turned pink as it should.

>>4795738
>People start to assume I own a corvid rescue ranch
Thats cool, man.
Do the crows in your neighborhood drop in to investigate what youre doing with these other crows?

>>4796443
Whats a proper diet for a young crow? How do you know how much to feed them?

>>4796895
>Do the crows in your neighborhood drop in to investigate what youre doing with these other crows?
Yes they don't like it to share their territory but during autumn and winter it was possible to befriend them. Spring is nesting season, which means friendship is over and they constantly try to drive my crow from last year out of the territory. Dunno about summer.
They haven't seen the new crow yet.
>Whats a proper diet for a young crow?
Different living insects from the store.
Baby mice from the freezer.
Sometimes a berry. Egg yolk.
>How do you know how much to feed them?
The very young ones will scream with their mouth open until they are satiated.
The crow pictured above is already one step further and can pick her own food from a small bowl. She eats from the bowl until satiated.

>>4796932
>different living insects
Oops. I meant insect larvae

>>4684380
Any suggestions for good food to feed them in order to become friends?

>>4684380
train your crow to type racial slurs

>>4797005
Shelled peanuts.
Sometimes hard boiled eggs with shell. Cut in half or in quarters.
You cut the egg in multiple parts to make it less likely that they will fight each other for it.

>>4797012
They’d be smart enough to enjoy it

The crows in my neighborhood have stopped coming by my house for snacks. Hate to say it but its got me bummed out. We had a pretty good thing going with 5 of them that would regularly swing by and caww to be given peanuts.


Why do people keep saying this animal is trash? The Cheetah is literally the fastest animal on the planet, that makes it far better and superior than a Lion in my opinion.

>>4772039
>fastest animal on the planet
Nope, that would be the Peregrine Falcon
People probably call it ‘trash’ because it’s overspecialized and doesn’t have much going for it outside of speed

>>4772045
The Falcon is a Bird though, not an Animal.

Cheetahs can win any fight because being the fastest means no Animal can run away from it and no Animal can catch it.

>>4772039
If the average human can beat it up barehanded, it's lame.

>>4772039
That's just a lean cat Labrador.

>>4772045
Yeah and sloths are overspecialized because their only defense is being so calorie inefficient that it isn't worth the trouble hunting them 90% of the time. Overspecialization doesn't make an animal "bad" and this shitty TierZoo esque powerscaling of nature is a really shitty way to look at things in general.

>>4772039
They're overspecialized, they can't defend their kills or cubs from other predators, and they're so genetically similar that their populations are super vulnerable to disease. They're living on borrowed time.
Leopardchads stay winning.

>>4772049
>The Falcon is a Bird though, not an Animal.
What’s the difference in your mind

You fuckers are ignoring the fact that cheetah-like felids have independently and convergently evolved to be extremely fast terrestrial predators several times with the American cheetah and the Giant cheetah to name a few.

So again, tier zoo sucks and is a hack, there are no OP creatures, there are no low tier creatures. Things work until they don't and there's little inbetween since niches and environments fluctuate which leads to different means of surviving while some more specialized animals get left behind.

I think they're cute and I wish we could domesticate them.

>>4772049
cheetah can go just as fast as the falcon if it jumps off a cliff, flying speed doesn't count

>>4774171
Domestic cheetahs have been a thing since at least 3000 BCE

>>4772039
It's just in the wrong continent, put them in Australia and they would thrive there.

>>4772045
Peregrine Falcons are hacks who rely on gravity

>>4772049
>The Falcon is a Bird though, not an Animal.
Birds are animals. Fish are animals. Insects are animals.
The cheetah is an animal and it is also a mammal.
Perhaps you mean that the cheetah is the fastest mammal in the world.
Yes, the cheetah is the fastest mammal in the world.
Whether the cheetah is "better" than a lion is a ridiculous question.
All currently existing animals, fungi, bacteria and plants are the current (temporary) pinnacle of evolution. They are all the result of literally billions of years of uninterrupted successful reproduction. Even you.

>>4774210
>Domestic cheetahs have been a thing since at least 3000 BCE
Putting a wild animal in a cage and then putting the cage in your house does not mean that you have domesticated a species.

>>4774247
the species is so friendly to humans that there is not even a single documented case of anyone being killed by a wild one.

You can turn your back from one, you can be close to it, you can even pet it.
meanwhile you gamble your life everytime you turn your back from an ambush cat.

>>4772039
they are extremely squishy they can't even 1v1 a hyena, they're are beautiful tho, their future is assured as long as humans live

>>4774210
You mean tame. Domestication would involve getting them to breed without issues in captivity.

>>4774270
They sometimes attack women, and likely small children, from the back sometimes. They're wild enough to still be dangerous.

FACT no one has ever called cheetahs trash
FACT everyone has always loved cheetahs
FACT cheetahs are the best

>>4772039
>fastest animal
Could you eat them while fasting?

>>4772039
Cheetahs were doing fine before rifles. Especially brown people with rifles.

>>4774306
The only thing stopping captive breeding from working is, ironically, the fact that we inbred them so severely the first time we domesticated them. They're barely genetically viable in the wild, in captivity their gene pool is cripplingly shallow.

>>4778909
What if we used machine learning to, based on the genomes of all known cheetahs, generate novel ones that could be introduced to the gene pool?

>>4778736
>Maharaja
>Great King
>ruler of a few square miles
what is it with browns and title bloat

>>4779461
Lack of executive functioning? They don't seem to have a proper grasp of scale and priorities in general—look at how long the Israelis and Palestinians have been squabbling over a worthless strip of desert the size of New Jersey.

>>4779461
Makes them feel special or something

>>4779461
Some guy in my office has "Global Head of XYZ" on his linkedin profile and XYZ is a back office team of six people.

>>4778736
imagine how many people he saved by taking out so many dangerous predators. Hero.

>>4779461
Wait till you hear about all the micro states in the HRE.

>>4778736
>Kill 1710 tigers no one bats an eye
>Kill 3 cheetahs EVERYONE loses their mind

>>4781888
Tigers are fine, but they're also IRL monsters that will rip you limb from limb if given the opportunity, whereas cheetahs routinely get mogged out of their kills by hyenas and require emotional support dogs to exist in captivity

>>4778909
>we inbred them so severely the first time we domesticated them
That never happened.

>>4783976
> require emotional support dogs to exist in captivity
Huh?

>>4783976
I want to emotionally support an anxious cheetah.

>>4784060
It's true. They tend to do poorly in captivity in zoos where tons of people are looking at them because it stresses them out. If they're stressed enough they won't drink or eat enough which can cause all sorts of problems, particularly with their kidneys.

So many zoos pair cheetah cubs with dogs so that the cheetah can reference their own response off of the dog's and not be an anxious wreck all day. It works surprisingly well actually, and the paired cheetahs tend to have way less trouble with crowds and people than the solo ones.

>>4783976
A lot of them tend to be labs for some reason. I guess they've just got a good temperament for it.

>>4774215
plenty of placental mammals thrive there, it's a huge problem.

>>4778736
fucking Koreans ruined it for the cheetuh

>>4772039
it gets bullied hard by all other predators in its natural habitat. It's very very cute and good at its niche niche but that's it. Badass predators like lions and the like have big dick energy and appeal to the male fantasy, as opposed to get bullied all the time.

>>4785259
cheetahsissies… this is kinda true…

>>4785217
Seriously? And they don’t try to maul the dogs or anything? Actually pretty cool psychological manipulation

>>4785259
>badass lions
>gets his meal mogged by a single hyena pack

>>4785276
Nope. If anything the dogs occasionally bully the cheetahs, but that's also rare.

Cheetahs really aren't big on mauling things. Their claws are blunted and non-retractible, so they're basically only used to help them with traction while running really fucking fast, and their teeth aren't really big enough to rip into things the way that a lion or tiger could. They generally kill their prey by clamping down on the throat and cutting off oxygen until the prey suffocates for those exact reasons.

I'm also pretty sure that that the dog would win if it actually came down to a knock down drag out fight. But that's never been an issue since they're socialized and raised together basically from birth.

>>4785511
where can i adopt a cheetah dog bonded pair

>>4772049
How is a cheetah winning a fight against a polar bear for example? bitting and running until the polar bear bleeds out?

>>4785276
Cheetahs are overgrown housecats, not true big cats. They have ancestral knowledge telling them that if they were smaller, the dogs would eat them.

>>4785533
It would run really fast until the polar bear's neck snaps from whipping its head around to keep track of it, easy. They can never lose because they're the fastest

>>4785550
that’s quite the power they have
speed really is the best…

>>4785343
Literally the other way around. Yeens flee like rats when a male comes running in. Hyenafutas keep coping.

>>4774159
All nonhuman life forms are "low-tier" (sub-optimal) and must be eradicated. The goal of humanity's existence is to ensure that only the white man exists once all is said and done. All animals, plants, fungi, and bacteria must be erased except for us. Undesirable humans must be culled as well. Undesirable celestial objects must be obliterated. Reality was made for the white man and the white man only.

>>4772049
>win any fight
dull claws, lol?
>cant run away
does he know about endurance vs speed? it sure can run but not forever, and their prey has mostly pinned down endurance. the opposite of cheetahs were tasmanian tigers who mained on endurance, there is a battle you cant win because as soon as you are tired you are dead and you will be followed for as long as you can run

>>4772039
>Why do people keep saying this animal is trash?
Because as we speak they are dying out in the wild and being bought/used en masse as personal instagram pets in back yard breeder homes. I'm not even joking.

>>4772039
>Why do people keep saying this animal is trash?
Their brains have been rotted by TierZoo and video game logic

>>4789330
But TierZoo videos are just humoristic, they are not to be taken seriously.

>>4789368
>Any community that gets its laughs by pretending to be idiots will eventually be flooded by actual idiots who mistakenly believe that they're in good company

>>4772049
>The Falcon is a Bird though, not an Animal.
I once had the toughest breakdown in communication happen in a class and it took me five minutes before realizing that it was because the adult woman I was speaking with was using the term "human" to mean "living".
Don't be like that girl, anon, educate yourself.

>>4785276
Why would they maul an animal which they got raised with, communicate with, play with? Cheetos are social animals, they are insanely skittish, and they pretty much only attack according to one specific vector, high speed chase preys. They are probably safer to be around than wolves raised in captivity.
There was a videos of a cheetoh freaking out and attacking a lady in a zoo a couple years back, the lady was pretty battered and had a couple good slashes, but that was mostly because the guards didn't react very quickly, the second he started wiping the cat with a small stick it fucked away.
Also, dogs are kinda the best possible animal for this because barking is a bit of a hack against other animals, I've seen videos of lions backing off from a barking spaniel because fuck that noise...

>>4794108
> I've seen videos of lions backing off from a barking spaniel because fuck that noise...
On the other hand, tigers don’t really seem to care

>>4794104
One neighbour and I had a very difficult time explaining to a retired cop lady neighbour what a window is. I'm not joking. This woman is 100% the dumbest fucking person I've ever met without having some diagnosed condition. I'm from Europe and live in America but somehow, according to her, I'm not an immigrant. Also, you can drive to England from Maine, all cats and birds are girls and dogs are boys (roosters are not birds, they're chickens) and China and Egypt are in Europe. She also once remarked with surprise that we "had the 80s in Italy" (she's my next door neighbour and I was listening to Banana Split by Lio, a French pop singer from the 80s, while doing dishes, which she could hear from her back porch) and, after declaring that she'd gone gluten free, was buying pasta from the supermarket when I took her with me shopping and didn't know that pasta is made from flour, flour is made from wheat and gluten is a naturally occurring thing in wheat (which I had to explain as "like how apples are sweet because they have natural sugars in them"). Apparently, she thought gluten was a poison added by, and I wish I was kidding, George Soros and Bill Gates, to all food because... well, that's what Facebook told her. I would guess it was probably some Onion article or some shit.
She also once remarked with surprise that we have buildings in Europe (after being shown a picture of myself on the street I grew up on, surrounded by tall-ass buildings)
Some people are just stupid. You can't fix stupid.

>>4794946
She's sweet as pie, but unfortunately about as clever as one, too.
I wish was making it all up it even just exaggerating but every word of it is true. I would say the same as you were I not the one who experienced her shockingly stupid musings first hand.
Anyway, you only confirm that this woman is just unbelievably stupid.

A less stupid, /an/-related thing she's said:
My missus got her into that Australian Josh Gad werewolf show and she'd sometimes be round ours to watch it with us after my son's gone to bed. She remarked that "they must have different birds in Australia" because the bird sounds heard in that show aren't the same bird sounds you hear here or in American media.
The Australian bird thing is not nearly as dumb a comment to make as "you have buildings in Italy!?" but it's still an extremely silly thing to be surprised by.
To expand on the window thing, she couldn't understand the difference between a window, a window pane, a window frame, a pane of glass and the bay it all goes into. We all eventually dropped the topic and started talking about power washing the sidewalks and driveways and how much it would cost to rent the machine.

Jesus Christ is the Son of GOD who came to earth and died for the world, so that may have eternal life. Three days later GOD rose Jesus Christ from the dead. He promised that whosever believes in Him, He promised them eternal, when the ask Him for it.

>>4796249
Brahma will forgive you for this misunderstanding of Krishna’s message and bless you with a favorable reincarnation as a cheetah’s emotional support dog