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Based bettas edition.

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>>4792582
>>4792600
If you are having issues with leverage, use something like this:
https://www.amazon.com/VEVOR-Suctio<wbr>n-Industrial-Windshield-Capacity/dp<wbr>/B0CKSYVBKK
Not particularly that one. I make no claims that that particular brand is good. I've used ones like that to lift tanks much heavier than that.

For everyone else: be careful if it's your first time lifting a non-nano tank. The dimensions make it much more difficult than you think. Like I can deadlift 5pl8 with just chalk, but I cannot lift a 200 lbs tank without assistance of some sort (straps, suction cups, etc), or at least not without serious risk of breaking it. If you are in disbelief, try lifting a 200 lbs atlas stone. It's worse than that.

Whose prettier? My dominar Male or female Festae? I can’t decide which is nicer

12 black rose shrimp going in the 100 gallon summer tub, taking bets on how many i get in october. i also want to breed some platys in there but want to wait until june to put them out, hopefully gives the shrimp time to get a generation out.

i only have two males left of this koi swordtail x variatus line that I like a lot, will maybe find some variatus females to breed them back to.

>>4792617
>>4792631
Where can I get colorful ones like these

>>4792617
First time seriously keeping fish what would you recommend for my 36 gallon?
Have
2 clowns
2 snails
A peppermint shrimp
1 bicolar blenny
2 hermit crabs
I want xenia and a watchman+pistol shrimp

>>4791976
You've heard of a pot calling a kettle black, yes?

You are the pot and I am the kettle, except instead of a pot you are a gay black hole with downs syndrome and instead of a kettle I am a gigachad blowing a load in your mother's ass on a Saturday night.

Your fish sucks and so do you. Kill yourself (today).

>>4792643
I like the stripes :)

How come black/brown cherry shrimp are so expensive when they're just the mutts of the colorful ones?

>>4792617
>>4792631
Are there golden bettas? I've only seen photoshopped pictures, not a real one in a video

>>4792734
>he can't leave it to die in the old thread, proving me correct once again
literally rent free lmao, here is another betta picture that i thought you would like

>>4792740
The only thing this conversation has 'proven you' is that you have proven to be gay, retarded, and have a bad taste in fish (in that order).

>>4792775
here anon, you seem to be very stressed lately, this betta photo might cheer you up :^)

A Snail Who Left Through Time - 2006 - Sci-fi/Romance

>>4792734
Here’s a special pic for you fren :)

Petco baby Betta update. Really cool looking fish

>>4792907
Very nice looking! The short finned varieties tend to get bigger and be healthier, so you sorta lucked out it wasn't a crowntail or similar.

It's a female, right?

>>4792870
>found another local fish store that sells shrimp for less than half what he does and x-treme for like 20% less
sorry corey i'm tired of waiting for your expansion and your moving the warehouse is a betrayal of the local business spirit.
that said, the ezflow setup is a game changer for sponge filters. I wish he would do something like that for undergravels

>>4792723
>watchman+pistol shrimp
Be careful of which ones you choose. You want a pair that are similar in size. E.G. goby that's too large for the pistol shrimp won't fit in the tunnels. Similarly, larger sized pistol shrimp can be a menace to any coral on the sand bed.

Smaller varieties tend to be expensive though. Like I have a Randall's pistol shrimp and a Yasha goby. They are absolutely tiny (perhaps too small), but way more expensive than a normal yellow watchman goby.

Perhaps a wrasse of some sort. Both for aesthetics and some pest control (melanarus, six line, yellow/canary), or if you just want something flashy, literally flashers or fairies. Some pest-control wrasses are risky though, like a lot of people complain their 6-line gets aggressive after a while. I opted for a yellow myself (yellow coris wrasse, but it's not technically a coris) and he's been fine. It is ironically my McCosker's that chases him around sometimes (but never nips).

Damn that's crazy, I got my betta yesterday.

>>4792582
Maybe /fit/ will help you lift your aquarium, anon

>>4792723
I'm the one who recommended you to make sure the rocks don't move when the goby is digging tunnels under them.
The way I've seen it done is to put an egg crate diffuser on the bottom first, then add the rocks and make sure they're stable, then add the sand. That way the goby can't dig under the rocks and make them collapse.

>>4792916
I thought it was male but appears to be an egg spot there. First time I've seen it.

>>4792937
Petco "tangerine koi"? Nice looking boy

>>4792957
"Some male Bettas temporarily grow a false egg spot to defend themselves"

Huh! He's maybe just in drag.

>>4792810
how is it doing that
and is that fish on the rock dying

>>4793038
NTA but....

Probably on the glass, or climbing a slime trail or other tiny bit of "gunk". Could also have a bubble of air in its shell that is keeping it at neutral buoyancy, but I doubt it.

The fish on the rock is a type of catfish, it hangs out on the ground or other surfaces

>>4792936
I have just been getting everything from my local reef store honestly
Do i have to worry about the pistol shrimp killing stuff?

>>4792941
Im going to try to at least properly bury it i guess
Thanks
>>4792936
I was thinking of getting a six lined wrasse because one really caught my eye in the pet store
I figured my clowns would fuck him up if needed since they seem to be pretty mean
Love them though they reconize me and swim into my hands

>>4793065
Yeah clowns are usually pretty good about defending themselves. I'd be worried about a pistol shrimp goby though.

>>4792941
>>4793062
This gets said a lot but I have yet to even hear of a single instance where a rock collapse has happened. That said, my rock is glued to base rock (which is machined flat on one side) that sits directly on the glass, with the sand on top of that.

your belly is so red, chrosomus-kun. are you ready to copulate?

Single SAE in a 30G community tank - good or bad idea? Flagfish keep dying on me so I'm giving up on them, but I still want something to mow algae.

Do I just give in and get otos+amano shrimp?

>>4792785
I'm not stressed, I have a nice community aquarium full of fish to look at.

You'd know what that was like if you didn't have a turboautist fish that literally sperged out on its own reflection. Lol, imagine... what a sad life you have.

>>4793282
otos are based
amanos are based (make sure you have a tight lid, those little fuckers can sometimes feel the call of the void and will happily go exploring)

>>4793282
Mine killed themselves by trying to jump out of a 75 and hitting the lid, can't imagine a 30 doing well. Think I've heard amano do ok with hair algae, if you have surface algae I heard nerites are the best you can get.

>>4793301
I have lots of nerites and spotless glass, it's just old growth black beard and hair algae on the anubias, buce, and Java ferns. I've got pest snails too but at least 30 assassin snails so their population stays low.

I'm a bit worried the amanos would get got by Odessa barbs, but I've tried spot feeding algae wafers/veggies, high and low hardness, and have lost the flagfish after 3-6 months each time, so I'm giving up on them. I'll give amanos a try before I get otos, not sure I want to put 10+ fish in to solve a minor nuisance, and I know they do best in groups.

>>4793326
Unheated tank, so drops to high 60s in the winter, which smaller Plecos don't like. I've considered a rubberlip or bristlenose anyways, but hear they don't eat algae that well after they're adults, and that's a big bioload addition to not solve the algae problem.

I have panda garras but those guys don't do shit to hard algae, as much as I love them.

>>4793327
I've had good luck killing all the black beard I've had with liquid carbon treatments.
I fill a syringe with the dose and turn off the filters for a bit while I dose it directly on the algae. Usually a couple treatments and it just disappears.

>>4793333
Cheers, maybe that's the right next step. There's very little algae on new leaves, it's all old leaves that grew algae early in the tank's life when my control of the water parameters was less than ideal.

>>4793297
>I have a nice community aquarium
Yet you bitch and moan for days without posting an image of it, on an imageboard. Stay seething brah, bettas swimming rent free in your head for days.

>>4793326
But the elf was right and Isildur was wrong... So... Get rid of the pleco?

>>4793350
I bet he doesn't have any GOODLOGS in his tank either. Pathetic.

>>4793332
Fair. Heaters are like ten bucks though. I have a Bristlenose that is (age unknown) but appears fully grown and it won't visibly eat algae for like 2-3 weeks... then it will randomly go apeshit and clean the entire tank over the course of a single night. I don't know what causes this, maybe it gets tired of wafers and vegetables and shit and just decides it wants to go on a tankfuzz bender. I have an assload of snails and have recently introduced shrimp so my algae problems are no more for the time being.

I reinforce my earlier comment re: the based-ness of shrimp. Some Amanos will eat that shit up faster than neos but neos will breed in freshwater and replace losses.

>>4793356
The elf was a betacuck and Isildur was a Based Alpha Male.

It's a lifestyle. I wouldn't expect you to understand.

>>4793350
>>4793372
I posted an image of my tank the other day you insufferable faggot. It's the 20 long with a fuckload of plants in it.

The only thing swimming in your head is the remnants of the six gallons of jizz you guzzled last night and the only logs you know about are the logs of shit that are impacted inside your asshole. Stop samefagging, by the way, it makes you look even more pathetic than you already do (inb4 your MSPaint screenshot where you clip out the (you) that we all know is there)

New cherry shrimps from a coworker.

Also as you can see by the colour of the anubiss I'm missing some nutrients in my water column but I'm out of fertilizer. Could I use a tiny bit of powerfeed? And while I'm here my ph is pretty high, like 8 at least. Worth trying to bring down?

Only have shrimp and plants

>>4793382
>poorfag bristle
>yellow water
>tds probably over 400
yeah thats exactly what i was expecting from you lmao
my pleco mogs yours btw, and so does my water clarity

>>4793382
> hates bettas
> owns a pleco aka the world's ugliest fish
> has a 20gal that looks like a smurf jerked off in it
Why even post, at this point?

What would cause the water to keep turning yellow in between water changes, with perfect params? Some aquatic plants and some emersed, pea gravel, and a terra cotta pot. Two goldfish & some snails in a (very temporary) plastic tub, not really sure of the gallon but it's less than 20. Is it just all the poop tinting the water before I vacuum it up again?

>>4793388
How do you maintain water clarity?

>>4793395
A lot of foods have color enhancers that could tint the water a little

>>4793397
me? i just try keep my tanks tidy, removing decaying plant matter helps too. slow water changes to not kick detritus up in to the water column. filter floss in your filter is a great way to force maintenance (mine all clog at about two weeks from the floss) and also keeps the water clear.
plecos don't help the water quality either lmao

>>4793104
You think the pistol shrimp will kill my fish?

>>4792617
>tank is 70% aqadvisor stocked
>isn’t scaped in a way to maximize living space
would it be a mistake to add something like a dwarf cichlid to a tetra dominated tank? I can’t think of another inhabitant to bring a little more interest to the bottom third, perhaps slightly larger. What about a flagfish?

>>4793488
aqadvisor estimates quite low in terms of stocking levels. It think it often says at least 20% below reasonable. At 70% you have tons of space for another larger fish like an apisto pair or something.

>>4793488
You have got plenty of room anon, go for gold.
What kind of tetras? What's the scape like? Should upload a pic so we can offer suggestions that aren't generic.

>>4793398
If that's the source how do I stop it then? I'm not feeding that much, but they do miss some because they're so young they're kind of ineffective at eating the pellets

>>4792940
: ( I didn't realize it'd be so easy for you guys

I'm 5 ft, the weight isn't the biggest problem it's the size and length. I can't just pick it up. I'll figure something out, probably get it up onto a lower surface first and then from there onto the stand.

I'm thinking of getting a a fish tank to keep shrimp in, think it'd be cool and they seem like a good beginner thing. I've been doing research and plan on doing either a 10/20 gallon and doing a planted tank.
I'm having trouble figuring out just how much maintenance a tank requires though. Some things I've seen say it requires a water change every week while some things say you may never need to do a water change.
How often can I expect to need to do a water change/ clean the tank? I want to make sure I have enough time/energy to properly care for it before I get it. I was hoping for something that's generally low maintenance.

>>4793597
Don't you have a roommate/neighbor/relatives in the area?
One thing I did to move a Miele washing machine (so you can guess how bulky and heavy it was) down to the basement was to use a piece of plywood. So you could put one end on the floor, one end on the stand, and gently slide your tank up.

>>4793615
My coldwater tank has cherry shrimp and endlers live-bearers. No heater, no filter, no water changes. Just a cheap light for the plants.
Shrimp have a really low bioload, there won't be any nitrate to build up, the plants will consume it. You'll just have to trim the plants once a month or so.

>>4793483
>tfw Lisa still hasn't lost any weight
>tfw she'd be the aquascaping milf of this general
>tfw the potential
>tfw they have a video eating fried chicken while driving down the highway

>>4793615
with shrimp your maintenance level depends on what plants you choose, if you choose stem plants you'll need to trim probably ~monthly or so. You probably need to scrape for algae every month or so as well, maybe a little more early on until the system achieves balance.
>water changes
basically 100% unnecessary in a shrimp tank of any significant volume. And actually can be bad/dangerous if not done carefully. I have kept cherry shrimp in a ~0.2 gallon bowl with some substrate and one algae covered rock angled towards the sun and had them survive their entire natural lifespans in that bowl with nothing but topping off the water. They didn't breed because I wasn't giving them extra food but they were culls anyways and I just wanted to see if it'd work. They were adult shrimp and lived about two years in that bowl.

Aquariums in general can be as low maintenance as you want them to be, it all depends on how you set things up. 20 neon tetras in a 10 will need regular water changes. 20 neon tetras in a 20 will need occasional water changes. 20 neon tetras in a planted 40 will never need a water change for nitrogenous waste reduction purposes. Fish produce more waste than inverts so you'll need to clean up the substrate or have rooted plants to help decomposition of the waste but it's very possible to manage systems using plant trimming/removal as the sole source of nutrient export.

>>4793617
>>4793650
thanks for these, they cleared up some things
So aslong as the tank is planted well and I dont add any other tankmates that add alot of nitrates then it should be fine?
Is there a guideline about how many plants I need in the tank and what other tankmates I could have with them? Is there such a thing as too many plants in the tank?
>>4793597
I'm only a few inches taller and I feel your pain fren.

>>4793668
1. yes, and with shrimp honestly you don't even need many plants. just feed gently.
2. frankly every aquarium is its own system with its own rules. Beyond understanding the basics of how the nitrogen cycle works, the nutrient needs of plants and basic rules like "more light usually means more algae" the key to success is just designing a basic system you know should work then tweaking until it runs well.

that said,

>tankmates
most fish below 3'' will be OK with neocaridina shrimp. they will all eat fry to some degree and the closer you are to that 3'' mark the longer shrimp fry remain snack sized for a fish, but once neos get going with their breeding, they can usually outbreed predation if the fry have lots of cover to hide in. things like nano rasboras, male endlers and other 1'' or less fish are ideal. Also top feeders like rocket killis since shrimp tend to not spend time at the top. People say avoid bettas and other anabantoids but it can work, or it might not. Or it might work for a year then the betta discovers it can eat the shrimp and kills all of them in one night. I currently have 3 pea puffers in a 10 full of cull neocaridina that they mysteriously aren't touching and havent been for the past ~3 months since I added them. Shouldn't work, probably won't work longterm, but for now, it is.

>too many plants
it is a thing, plants are constantly shedding little bits of detritus that feeds heterotrophic bacteria which are usually just a normal part of the aquatic environment but can become virulent at high concentrations. Unhealthy plants are more of a problem and all of your plants dying at once can cause an ammonia spike that will crash a system. But generally, not that big of a worry. Start off with slow growth, slow dying plants like anubias, java fern, mosses, etc and you'll be fine.

I would never recommend not doing water changes to someone new to the hobby. The comment about danger to shrimp is right but as long as you're replacing tap water with tap water there's no problem at all you just have to temperature match it to avoid the premature molting. Stick to 25% once per week. Additionally siphoning out water is the easiest way to deal with the organic detritus causing bacteria blooms as >>4793681 mentions. Small tank no tech is popular now but it's still not beginner friendly and for every cool youtube time-lapse you see there's 100 algae filled messes.

>>4793779
Bullshit - give one reason to do water changes, other than algae. And btw, you're getting algae because you have too many nutrients - the plants you have aren't able to consume all the ammonia or nitrate.
Doing water changes for the sake of doing water changes (muh 25% WC each week) should be laughed at.

>>4793801
You're missing the point, it's not that these things are unavoidable and the water changes are mandatory. It's that you can't expect new people to the hobby to avoid every single common pitfall like overstocking and overfeeding and keep healthy fast growing plants. We know exactly what a beginner tank usually looks like and those people should do water changes.

Plecocuck:
>Hides all day
>Pussy
>Expensive
>Too big
WhiptailGODS:
>Sits in front of tank all day
>Doesn't give af
>Stays good size

>>4793806
No, you're missing the point. Every response here was along the lines of "low bioload, easy to grow plants". That's the best approach for a beginner - nobody said "put 200 platties in a nano cube with a fern in it".
You're acting as if some shrimp and duckweed makes for such a complicated setup for a beginner.

>>4793510
some fat otos in there too
my first planted tank, couple of the plants are lagging but it’s entertaining to try different ones and get a sense of the vibe they have

>>4793597
If you're 5ft tall, you should be able to fit inside the aquarium. Just put it on its side and then pull the edge on top of you, like you're a turtle.
Then climb on the stand with the aquarium still on you - voila! Easy peasy!

>>4793824
I was considering some red lizard whiptails as an oto alternative for my tank that has a larger cichlid in it.
I heard they have nearly the same behavior as plecos though except for occasionally burrowing in sand.

>>4793825
I never made out that it was complicated and I'm not disagreeing with you that it's the best approach, it's that no matter how well intentioned someone is if they're new they'll run into issues and make mistakes and you're setting them up for failure by advocating that they don't do water changes. You absolutely can't tell people not to change water when you don't even know what substrate they're getting since every store is now upselling people onto aquasoil as soon as they mention plants. You have to assume that people won't be perfect, you can go no filter too but surely you wouldn't recommend that to someone starting out? It's the same idea. It's unlikely that someone will abandon the hobby because they have to spend 15 minutes a week changing water but if they have a green and brown unsightly mess they might.

>>4793801
You do water changes in a stable aquarium to reset and renew the mineral balance of the water which get depleted by plants and livestock, to maintain specific parameters such as pH and TDS, and to remove organic compounds such as proteins, fats and such that aren't easily broken down by filtration. Having a regular water change schedule keeps parameters stable over a long term basis, something that's very important for most livestock and plants to keep them healthy. Pretty simple stuff.

And by the way, what's bigger - algae or a plant? What therefore needs more nutrients to live? It should be obvious that algae require infinitesimally less nutrients to reproduce. I have green algae on the bottom of my RO water can. The idea that algae are caused by excess nutrients is absolutely retarded. Green algae can appear anywhere there's a bit of light and red algae (BBA and Staghorn) are caused by decaying proteins, mostly released from plant metabolism or stress.

>>4793902
>reset and renew the mineral balance of the water
top-offs will do that too
>to maintain specific parameters such as pH and TDS
lol. lmao, even.
>remove organic compounds such as proteins, fats and such that aren't easily broken down by filtration
why? they will get broken down eventually, and will be consumed by plants
>Having a regular water change schedule keeps parameters stable over a long term basis
skill issue, i bet you don't even have a tank
>very important for most livestock and plants
says who?
>some algae bullshit in a can of RO water
nice can of RO water, anon! maybe try to have an AQUARIUM next time?

>>4793881
>you don't even know what substrate they're getting
i don't care - they should do their research, heck they can come here and ask questions
>no filter too but surely you wouldn't recommend that to someone starting out?
i absolutely do - when you go to a lake/pond/moat, do you see any hang-on back filter moving the water around? i always recommend them the "normal" approach: have a good aquascape with plenty of surface area, plants, and a deep substrate. what exactly makes the filter media more magically able to keep an aquarium stable compared to everything else? surface area is just that - surface area.

>>4792617
how feasible do you think an arctic themed tank with mini ice bergs would be? I’ve never seen it done before except maybe at penguin exhibits at zoos.

Just stick a large pothos in the tank. You now broke the whole cycle and will never have to do water changes again. Only top off.

>>4793983
Chillers are expensive. Aquarium glass does not insulate well. A zoo arctic setup involves chilling the entire room the enclosure is in.

>>4793981
>heck they can come here and ask questions
heck, they did and you started sperging out about it retard

>>4794034
That wasn't me, dumbass. I can keep guppies and duckweed alive. And even if I didn't, I wouldn't admit it on this anonymous hungarian goat-fucking forum.

>>4794082
Congrats for keeping the herpes and aids of the aquarium world alive, didn't realise I was talking to a pro kek.

Does anyone else suffer a shitty planted tank?
I swear mine has gotten to the point where its enraging to look at most of the time.
These fucking plants never stay put and grow how i want them too. They always want to shoot up and create a clusterfuck at the surface and keeping them rooted or held down is almost impossible.
The entirety of the culprits are one bristlenose bulldozer and one 10cm cichlid who likes to push stems around. But im still pissed at the plants for giving way so easy and having no interest in gripping a decent walsted substrate.
Not even superglue has been enough.

>>4794095
>guppies and duckweed
>herpes and aids
>doesn't even own an aquarium
Lol. Lmao, even.

>>4794127
>The entirety of the culprits are one bristlenose
I'll give you the same advice I gave another anon - get rid of the pleco.
They're ugly af and detrimental to your tank; why would you keep such an eyesore in your tank?

>>4794127
You can do with plants that have more robust root structure or you can say to hell with it and just do all floating plants

I'm setting up a lazy planted aquarium, it's an all in one so the lightning is cheap. I have a shit load of java fern I'm going to use, but what other plant should I use? My idea is one plant pulling from the water (java fern) and one from the substrate. Vallisneria? Straight or curled? Amazon Sword? Large crypt? Stem plants probably aren't the choice they will go leggy at the bottom and look shit.
Tank will be full of otocinclus and shrimp, and a lot of driftwood.

>>4794145
What a cutie, she kind of has the CSGO blue gem ak-47 look with that fully blue dorsal fin kek.

>>4794150
I have a soft spot for the pleco since its an OG for the tank and did a hell of a job cleaning all the sludge algae that was covering everything when i had just started.

>>4794151
I want more root feeders to take advantage of the substrate, but it seems it will take full physical restraints that anchor them in. Ideally id find some aquarium weights and not the dodgy lead based variety.

>>4793483
She seems nice, but too old looking half the time
>>4793632
Lisa had the turbo-bimbo vibe even in her best videos. Not a fan.

Now Irene on the other hand drives my yellow fever crazy despite looking goofy as hell. Such a tease with that red lipstick.

>>4793876
Don't have lizards because they are too small for thier price. I like medium sized loracarids.

>>4793488
Plenty of people have had dwarf rams and tetras. I had German Blue Rams with neons for years.

>>4793417
>You think the pistol shrimp will kill my fish?
Larger ones definitely can kill small fish. It's really unlikely though.

But then again my Randall's is so small even my purple firefish dwarf it.

>>4794183
looks like a pitbull given human form

>>4794183
I have actively avoided watching her videos even thoujgh they're not any worse than the others purely cause id have to endure that hideous visage.

>>4794191
>>4794194
I like the thought of her tits hanging so low that I could titty fuck her while I was pounding her puss. What other dog faced bitch can do that for you?

>>4794183
I have this channel blocked. I don't care if her content is good. I can't look at her. Sorry.

>>4792884
That's Betta Smaragdina dude, alien bettas have much more iridescence covering their bodies like picrel

>>4794157
Get some ludwigia, it will turn red and will look great next to the other one that's green.

>>4794161
>asian women don't hit the wa-ACK

Although I like that video where she visited a fish store and was chatting to that cute shortie tomboy.

>>4793597
Like I mentioned in the beginning of this thread. Use suction cup glass holders. There's also moving straps like so:
https://www.amazon.com/JCHL-2-Perso<wbr>n-Adjustable-Shoulder-Furniture/dp/<wbr>B07CKTL6WC

You could also get creative and attach a platform to a car jack or two and lift it part way.

>>4794183
>all those tats
red flag incarnate

>>4794340
>cute shortie tomboy.
pic/vid?

>>4793388
>>4793392
samefagging is the most pathetic behavior you could possibly exhibit. I'm sorry you have a shitty taste in fish but stop taking it out on the thread. Go bother someone else, like cars on the freeway.
Honestly at this point we'd rather deal with flanders than you. Think about that for a minute.

>>4794408
I'm obviously not >>4793388, I would never own a pleco. I posted my Betta, which is a million times better looking than any pleco.
You're not the sharpest tool in the trailer park, eh?

>>4794436
You're getting baited, retard. >>4794408 is someone else who is fucking with you. Either you are a samefag or you're just as retarded as the other guy, which would almost be impressive if it wasn't so incredibly sad.

For the record, my water is crystal clear.

>>4794439
>crystal clear
>can't even clearly see back wall of aquarium
Your water looks fine, but it could be clearer.

>>4794439
I only responded to >>4794408 and didn't accuse him of being anyone else. Learn how to read, you pathetic, pleco-owning, ass-watering ESL.

>>4793824
Loricaride brothers should unite
>>4794150
I just like plecos
>>4794439
My water is clearer in my goldfish tank with a pleco and a sponge filter

>>4794439
>crystal clear salt water
>can see the tiniest noses of clowns hosting a xenia all the way at the back of the tank
>the water's not purple, idk why my phone's camera does that
Absolutely mogged, how are you even gonna recover from this?

>>4794502
It’s because your water is cloudy and the particles are catching light that the water filters out

>>4794370
Probably this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qO_<wbr>dUWhf0yk

>>4794509
Wrong. It only does that at the top of the tank - if I take a picture of zoas at the bottom of the tank, it looks normal. I guess my phone doesn't like the light?
>inb4 crystal clear
>inb4 did I stutter

>>4794516
Nice Valonia nerd, better get rid of that soon :) unless your tank is infested with algae’s… in that case it might explain how a pleblican like you managed to achieve nice looking water

>>4794520
>Valonia
imagine being that much of a dork that you name your bubble algae!
and no, it's not infested with algae - for disasters related to dinos, bubble algae, and other dumbass things, make your way over to the reef tank general.
>inb4 my zoas mog your poor health, closed-up zoas
Mogged again!

A few days ago, one of my juvenile cichlids jumped out of the tank overnight. I found his dry corpse behind the tank. I feel very saddened by his death and I wish there was something I could have done to prevent it. I taped some plastic to the opening on the lid but I don’t think it’s enough. Is there anything I can do?

Tank is 7 gallons. Currently 2 cichlids in it. Water is crystal clear.

black neons have the zoomies this afternoon. They are just about the right age to have reached sexual maturity now so maybe that's what's going on.

>>4794502
>>4794509
>>4794516
Protips: Reef lighting is especially hard to take pictures of, and it's something that phone cameras in particular have a really, really hard time capturing. Generally they just can't compensate for that spectrum. iPhones in particular are absolute garbage. Doesn't matter which one you have.

You can adjust the white balance, whether through a native app or a 3rd party, of your camera, but most phones only compensate to MAYBE 10,000 Kelvin max. I believe iPhones are maxed out at 6500K as is the Pixel 8 Pro (although for some reason iPhones are significantly worse even when adjusting manually). Standalone digital cameras (whether they be DSLR or mirrorless) can do this much, much better. Even my old ass Canon T3i went all the way up to 15,000 Kelvin with the Magic Lantern firmware. You can also buy a physical filter. Even with one or both of these methods, it's still not going to capture the exact color you're seeing in person as your particular light have a unique spectrum profile. E.g. the blues, violets, reds, greens, whites, etc. mix of an EcoTech Radion differs from a Kessil, and furthermore your personal settings differ on that particular unit, and none of them really follow the Kelvin scale.

Tidal Gardens recently released a pretty good video on this topic:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9K-<wbr>249Quk-I

If you can master white balance, color correction (in post), and lighting, your reef tanks will look as crystal clear in your pictures as in person. Otherwise... not so much.

>>4792617
What do i do? I woke up and my peppermint shrimp doesn’t seem to be doing good

>>4794543
You can prevent your ligma By not baiting the thread. Get rid of your cichlids. Get rid of your tank, never post here again.
>>4794598
Didn’t feel like pulling out dlsr for this nerd
>>4794523
Zoas tend not to like halides as much as cheapo Chinese leds.
Figured you would throw a hissy fit over a Latin name

>>4794631
I don’t understand
There shouldn’t be bad bacteria like that for the black spots my fish snails and hermits are doing great

lol lmao i just like fish, piss water guy needs to relax a lil

>>4794408
uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh nice guess though

>>4794631
in my experience peppermint shrimp tend to not live very long. how long have you had him for?
btw, if he's mostly in there for eating aiptasia, i found that blue legged hermit crabs do a much better job.
>>4794632
> cope cope cope
> butthurt butthurt butthurt
> can't keep soft corals, woe is me!
Are you that South American guy working in a shitty fish store?
Oh, and I almost forgot:
> halides
lol! lmao, even!

>>4794632
>calls others nerds
>literally does exactly the same things as the people he's calling out
Actual cope.

>>4794698
Nah I haven’t worked at a fish store in a few years and unfortunately do not live in South America or my fish collection would be absolutely bonkers.

Never have I met someone who has been confident in being so wrong tho. You must hate nice things and pretty coral (acros). As well as be too poor to give your animals the type of lighting that replicates the sun the most! Sad! For your animals sake I pray you develop some taste

>>4794722
>implying that anyone in this hobby isn’t a nerd to some degree

>>4794632
Wait, are you that dude that got so ass blasted that the people in the reef thread didn't jerk off to your retarded posts that you've been shit talking about it for like six months straight? Lmao. Don't bother denying.

Feel free to post your cope below.

>>4794408
>we'd rather deal with flanders
this nigga legion, actual demon referring to himself as the multiple satanic trannies living in his psyche
post fish

>saltniggers have the most amazing selection of animals in the pet trade, easily mogging freshwater fish
>they care more about stupid corals instead

Why is it like this?

>>4794514
Thought that was a guy at first lol

>>4794444
Oh jesus christ dude, just stop. That's the liner on the back of the tank. What a colossal waste of quads and a colossal waste of oxygen you are. Do this thread a solid and literally commit suicide within the next 15 minutes. If you're too stupid to understand that dim room lighting can make a tank's water look off than you're officially too stupid to be useful in this world for anything other than digging ditches, and unfortunately for you we already have enough ditch diggers.

Imagine posting in an aquarium general and thinking you know what the fuck you are talking about but not even knowing what tannins are. Pathetic.

>>4794502
>>4794516

That's clearly (heh) not crystal clear, you need to see an optometrist to fix your bad eyesight and a lobotomist to fix your profound mental retardation.

Nice fish though. Saltwater tanks are a level I don't ever plan to ascend to. For me freshwater is the perfect balance between amount of enjoyment I get out of it versus the amount of work I put in to it.

>>4794639
Literally 5 seconds in MSPaint, you're not fooling anyone samefag.

>>4794747
I did post a fish, but then some sperglord pooped his pampers and started shitting up the thread because he/she/xhe is STILL (still!) assblasted about getting btfo in an aquarium general thread in an anonymous online imageboard like a week ago.

>>4794514
> thinking that creature on the right is "cute"

This is the part where Ice T tells you you're gay.

>>4794822
not reading all that, lmao @ ur life writing essays for /aqg/

i concede that your water is cloudier yes ggwp

>>4794727
Never posted in reef thread lol. Only been back on an for about a month after a 2 year break too. Sorry for not fitting your projection

>>4794631
>>4794698
Yeah he was dead when I got home:(
I feel bad
I liked him

>>4794822
Thanks, ChatLGBT. Now post fish tank; spoiler alert: you won't, because you don't have one.

>>4794923
very weak and lonely creatures trying to establish their dominance in any way they can. They couldn't do it in normal social circles like school or work, so they retreat to small obscure communities where they can be the one eyed man in the land of the blind

>>4794913
Don't kick yourself too much, anon. Losing a shrimp always sucks, but just check your params and then try again.
Here's mine in picrel.

>>4794953
I love this webm, no matter how many times I see it. Shows you the relative volume of water fish have in nature, though - there's not more than one or two small fish per 100g of water in that pond.

>>4794953
I dug a pond a few months ago. Every time I look at my aquariums now, I think about the best way to upsize them. I've realised a few fish in a large space is much more interesting to watch.

>>4794981
Idk there's something charming to 15 dwarf platys per liter.

First time I put the light at 100% (2h). The overwhelming buoyancy of co2+oxygen bubbles not only turned the phoenix moss's ends entirely in the wrong direction but also lifted the whole bastard and its metal mesh up - I think a single rogue Limnophila sessiliflora root is keeping it all from floating up.
Also the water looked carbonated from the constant excess oxygen coming out of the MC+DBT carpet during those 2h (didn't get to film it, this webm is afterward)

Tomorow I'll go back to playing it safe at keeping the light at 90% peaks....

>>4793038
>>4793042
>Could also have a bubble of air in its shell that is keeping it at neutral buoyancy
correct

>>4794161
>>4794340
Irene actually has a great ass.

>>4795061
Source? Yoga pants cheating doesn't count - the only bitch looking bad wearing yoga pants was Susan the YouTube CEO when she was cleaning that beach with Mr Beast.

Hey guys, I've noticed some cloudiness in my aquarium, how do I fix this? Tank stats:
>size: 10L
>stocking: one Betta and one pleco
>had it for one month
>50% water changes each week
>all parameters normal, 0 ammonia and nitrite, low nitrates, 6.9 pH
>crystal clear water

>>4794927
That's sick. I have a 7 with 3 pea puffers in a 10, wonder if I'll ever get some fry.

Any decent alternatives to a betta for a planted 10 gal? My LFS didn't have any great looking ones in there. They had some nice apistos but I didn't want to buy something one a whim.

>>4795067
>Susan the YouTube CEO when she was cleaning that beach with Mr Beast.
Now THIS I wanna see lmao

Should I eat this prick once he gets too dangerous? I stick my hand in and he goes straight between my fingers and under my nails with those claws. Not so bad now but when those claws get as big as he is now I think there is going to be a problem.

>>4794161
She is kind of annoying
>>4794183
>looks like shrek
>somehow comes off as the nicest most interesting woman in the community
She is not really going against that much to be fair. Literally every woman on fishtube is just a wife who likes bettas. Rachel is one of the only ones who actually keeps a collection. She also has a cool ass carivorous plant bog. The collectors spirit makes her very relatable.
>>4794514
are you sure thats not a tranny or something?
>>4794747
I never buy shiners because they are overpriced and I always tell myself I will just make the road trip to go catch my own eventually.
>>4794757
Not a salt fag but here are my guesses.
>Most are wild caught and they get guilty
>Most are wild caught so they are obscenely expensive. All the saltwater fish are like the dainty parasite filled species of freshwater fish you can only get wild caught that are really hard to fix up before they die. (not really easy to try random fish like in freshwater)
>Saltnigs are obsessed with making money off of their tanks so they only get things they can reproduce (mostly corals)
>Saltnigs get no plants except for seaweed so feel like they need corals to make the tank look good
>Corals are alien looking mfs and are cool as fuck
I don't have the time to obsess over parameters for corals. I would rather just keep tidepool tanks. (I would probably fall for it hook line and sinker if a coral survived in my tank though)

>>4794981
I'm sure you will love it. What fish do you have inside. Heres a vid of me feeding mine today. Caught them all myself!

>>4795071
Your pleco is probably kicking stuff up into the water which is causing the bacterial bloom? Mine have done that. Get filter floss to get that stuff all caught and it should go away. You are water changing more than enough.

>>4795075
I wonder how hard it would be to run a tank that doesn’t need water changes with pea puffers

>>4794954
Thanks ;-;
Cute shrimp
My paremeters are good but im going to have my local fish store check for me

>>4795165
I don't think they're too bad with shrimp and corys cleaning the scraps

DUTCH

Built a shelf for some old showcase tanks from my LFS, little cloudy, made the mistake of using fluorite red. I will be breeding caridina shrimp (fish one galaxies, blue bolts, and crystal blacks and storing a few adult bettas in between spawns. Each tank is 3 gallons. All my rice fish, platys and guppies are outside now as well. Even tossed some CPD’s for good measure.

Hope everyone is having a good start to breeding season!

Here’s an update from the Dutch tank, been taking cuttings into the LFS twice a month, getting my dog food for free now. Heh.

Blue bolts and galaxy fish bones finally gave birth, as well as my first batch of bettas.

>>4795071
Try less water changes. That’s a giant tank for only a betta, could be ruining the balance of the tank by diluting the active bacteria. I use RO and do maybe 5-20 percent water change weekly, filter tuning and clean out about once a month if needed all depending on the parameters of the water, throw that betta in a cup with known clean non chlorinated water until you get that dialed in though.

Anonymous

>>4795120
>>4795371
yeah, if you could all stop taking the bait, that would be greaaat...
he literally said "crystal clear water", he's just imitation the other idiots fighting above and you two are giving him attention.

>>4795378
>imitation
meant "imitating", i should go to bed.

>>4795360
based bolts, looks like a fun project anon good luck
what kind of bettas are you breeding for?

>>4794951
I posted a webm of my old 10 gallon tank as well as a picture of my existing 20 gallon tank, if you're too retarded to see them that's a you problem, not a me problem.

Also, I am not a chatgpt bot, but just in case you are I'd like you to try and solve this captcha for me.

>>4795354
Are you going to breed shrimp for the hell of it, or to sell?

I always wondered how much money some of the smaller sellers make. From the outside it seems like the kind of thing where unless you have a small warehouse (or at least a garage) you can dedicate to tank space it would be tough to make any real money (especially considering the amount of time and effort you'd have to put into shipping them safely, checking weather reports, buying breathable bags, packing them up, etc).

I've been tempted to set up an old spare 10 gallon tank to breed some (buy a few, add them, wait a few months), but it would just be to get free shrimp.

DUTCH

>>4795396
I do it as a hobby, after falling down the Dutch rabbit hole I got really proficient at balancing tanks and keeping parameter in check with RO and demineralization any parameter set is possible, weeee.

So I’m also going to sell to the LFS that I am pretty tight with and under cut their supplier by a few percent occasionally, I commonly trade fish, plants, and shrimp in for credit, and use it for W/E I need. My wife wants me to venture into sales or do a storefront with crazy aquascaped tanks, but I definitely don’t wanna do online, seems like a shitfest.

As far as you starting a tank DO IT, it’s literally free shrimp, I gave my wife an old tank and that thing cranks out NEOs.

Anonymous

>replace the decayed almond leaves with fresh
>corys and gouramis and shrimp get all excited like I just dropped a pepperoni pizza in
to the tank
They're so cute.

Put the hastatus corydoras in the bag, and no one gets hurt.

>>4795466
Wholesome

>>4795409
> bristlenose pleco is skittish, only comes out when the lights are dim or off
> dim lighting makes the water look dirty
> pleco is attacking algae wafer that has been sitting on the bottom for a little while
> pleco's eating causes particles from the wafer to get knocked around, making water look dirty
> literally anyone who has been within 15 feet of an aquarium could figure this out, let alone someone who likes fish enough to fuck around on a fish general thread
> post the .webm
> Guess I was wrong about that "literally anyone" thing, because some literal retarded person (I'm talking about you right now) spergs out about how my tank is shit or whatever because he jerks off to images of siamese faggot fish every night

Here is a picture of that tank taken either the day before or the day after that webm was (I forget which).

As I have indicated multiple times already you are cordially invited to kill yourself, so if you could go ahead and get on that that would be awesome.

Went collecting on Sunday with Lawrence Kent and some people from the fish club. <br>Caught some mad Tom’s because they are best catfish. Got a little over zealous catching orange throat darters. And now have about 30 of those lol. Anybody want some before I post em up on Aquabid?

>>4795118
Just shubunkin and sarasa Goldfish

>>4795806
I mean, I kinda do. Do they need live food? If not, I'll probably buy one off you on aquabid.

Maybe give them some antiparasitics in the meantime, if you're going to sell them.

>>4795822
>>4795118
You pondfags are going to make me try to build a big ass container pond again. And I really shouldn't.

It wouldn't be big enough for koi so maybe I'll hold off for the house boat dream.

>>4795870
Yeah already have them in a tank with praziquantel. Have had luck feeding these guys frozen brine, bloodworms, and mysis, they adapt very well to aquarium life. Never tried breeding them but from what I’ve seen it’s fairly easy for a darter as well.
Email me at
aquascum3000@proton.me

>>4795871
> so maybe I'll hold off for the house boat dream.
huh??

>>4795806
I would love them. Idk how that could be aranged on 4chan though lol. Are you thinking about just mailing them to adresses?
>Sells darters on aquabid
Are you misfishippi?
Anyways, what kinds of tanks do you keep your darters in. I keep my fantails in a 20 long with a power head. I made the mistake of buying some rhinogobius zhoui though and now they dominate that tank. Should've gotten the hint from the round gobies in the great lakes. I need to move those gobies sometime.

>>4795871
Don't do containers like a fag just dig it yourself. Bigger the better.

>>4795944
My backyard is 20x15' and the frost line is 4' down. I've mocked up some insulated wooden ones in the 500g range that would probably not freeze under a greenhouse tent over the winter, but I've not built up the guts to spend a few hundred dollars on building materials on "probably"

>>4795941
Posted my business email in this post >>4795896 just send me an email with your zip and I’ll get back to you on price and shipping
And no I’m not miss. I used to sell a bunch of apistos on aquabid. But I’ve had to move a few times since then and am just getting back a stable fish room.

Darters are simple, just gotta figure out high flow. Right now I have a half full 33 with local gravel and an aquaclear 75 on it for high oxygen. I’ve done 10-20 gallons with pumps on em before.
We caught a few fantails. Also got some Arkansas, sunshine, and least darters. But I didnt keep any of those.

>>4795975
I mostly keep fantials. I have to go out of state because none of the darters are really native here. Fantails do great for me. The tesselated darters I got came from a swamp and were very skinny. They didn't do too well.

>>4795981
Orange throats and fantails in my area all live in the same habitats and creeks. I’ve caught about 7 darter species within an our of where I live. Which is nice.
You have any specific species your looking for just let me know and I could snag a few for ya.

I accidentally MK-Ultra'd my poor fish for like 10 hours. There was a power cut and it reset my LED setting back to the default cycling mode where it quickly goes through blue, red, green.

Mumma shrimp with her two week old baby, love these lil niggas so much it's unreal.

>>4795103
Crevices are where detritus builds so of course it's after the yummy fingie fudge.
Non-issue anyway, simply build up the tolerance to pain as they grow.

>>4794509
>>4794516
Lighting aside, what about focus?

>>4792634
Can confirm.
Went out and bought 6x double succ cast aluminium glazier majiggers when I had help moving in my 160gal.
There were 4 of us (3 really) and maneuvering around doorways, gates, into a van, off the van and around gates/doorways. I would say majority of the move was done with 2 people, because 3 fatties and a 4ft deep tank through a standard doorframe isn't possible.
Should've had some of those straps that go around your waist/shoulders and under the tank because all that needed to happen was one succ shift and the integrity of the 500lb tank was now relying on 3 succs and 3 arms.

I laughed at the $550NZD quote from the lifters but if I had to do it again, I would probably use them on insurance alone.

>>4794127
>force myself to clear and ground it to a reasonable state again
>a couple of plants are buried and anchored with superglued ceramic bits within the vicinity of my cichlid's little zone he chills and sleeps in
>within a couple of days he has still managed to drag them out and away from his area

>>4796348
>I laughed at the $550NZD quote from the lifters but if I had to do it again, I would probably use them on insurance alone.
Yeah, when you start spending thousands of dollars in gear, suddenly half a grand for an insured mover seems not so bad. Even more than that, the time. Getting the exact system one wants can take a long ass time, and waiting all that time, only for it to break, even if it's insured, fucking sucks ass because you're going to have to wait just as long to get another shot.

>>4794127
> getting mad at plants for not growing the way you want them to

Plants have been on this planet for 500 million years. Do you really think you're going to be able to change their behavior after throwing them in a tiny glass box with some fancy tap water in it?

Embrace the awe and wonder that is the chaos of nature. An obsessively sculpted tank is nice to look at, but at the end of the day it is nothing more than a monument to man's hubris.

>>4796258
Based. I added 4 neos and 1 amano to my tank a little while ago just to see how they would do (if they did well my plan is to add more). The neos have been MIA since the second day but the Amano shows up from time to time.

>>4796432
>a couple of plants are buried and anchored with superglued ceramic bits within the vicinity of my cichlid's little zone he chills and sleeps in
>within a couple of days he has still managed to drag them out and away from his area

It's his house, let him decorate it how he wants.

>>4794183
Not even with a rented dick

i just wish my fish would fuck already brehs I’m getting sick of them going on dates but not closing the deal

are there fish fertility clinics? Asking for a friend

>2 months after i put in the wimpy little test fish for fish-in cycling

>>4797169
>NOO YOU CAN'T DO THAT, THINK OF THE HECKIN TETRA WELFARE

>>4797174
Big Aquarium doesnt want you to know about the PH-Ammonia pill.

>>4797183
I was aware of this but I've never had anyone say how bad the ammonium is for livestock. Clearly sub 7 ph tanks aren't immune to new tank syndrome, but that's probably because of fluctuations right like with turning CO2 off at night and it being turned back to ammonia?

maybe a paranoid question but i started getting into frozen bloodworm and shrimp as a treat for my skirt tetras, are you supposed to just plop those thing in or should you dilute it to room temp first? does it matter?

>>4797196
For my clowns, I usually add some aquarium water to a tiny cup and stir the frozen chunk around. That way they can grab the individual shrimp while swimming and don't have to peck at it on the bottom.

>>4797185
ammonium shouldn't be there in significant concentrations unless you have some measures set up to keep pH low and keep pH from fluctuating into dangerous ranges. Aquasoil is the one standard scenario where this applies since it's part of the design. Nutrient rich soil provides nutrients for rooted plants and bleeds ammonia into the water which is then neutralized into ammonium by pH reduction and kept secure by buffering agents. Ammonium in the water column then fertilizes plants that feed from the water column.

I always cringe when i see ledditors talking about doing tons of water changes to get rid of the 'ammonia' and crying about how its ruining their tanks. or making an algae factory. I followed that dogshit advice the first time i ran an aquasoil tank and predictably it fucking sucked. Did my own research based on decade old boomer forum posts and turns out they were right and reddit was wrong.

it really is incredible how much knowledge is being lost with the movement from traditional forums to epic low effort updoot platforms.

>>4797196
it doesn't really matter imo, 70+ degree water heats a tiny cube of frozen food very quickly.

Is frozen significantly better than freeze dried?

Obviously having something like prefilter sponge makes a lot of sense, but I've seen people put the white filter floss as the first media. I can understand having it as the last one but why the first? Surely you'd have to be cleaning it constantly.

>>4797302
If it's just the white filter floss i guess it's fine but if it's filter floss first and there's a coarse sponge later it's kinda retarded

>>4797302
>Surely you'd have to be cleaning it constantly.
Yes I'd assume so. That's a dumb way to order things. If you put floss first that essentially becomes your sole mechanical filtration and everything coarser after it is just acting as bio media.

>>4797302
Only time I have seen that is when you set up a new tank and use it to clear any particles out of the water over night.

>>4795103
>Should I eat this prick once he gets too dangerous?
No, you should wash your hands and brush your nails, look how filthy they are.

>>4797196
Doesn't matter in the slightest. If your fish think it's too cold, they will just wait to eat it. It will not affect your tank.

Side note: It's hilarious every summer some dude complains about his tank being too hot then some smoothbrain says to put a frozen bottle of water into a 20G tank. A 16 oz frozen bottle will reduce the temperature of 82F of 17G water a whole 0.37 degrees (a standard 20G long will hold closer to 17G of water when filled to a reasonable amount and with substrate/hardscape). As summer is nearly upon us in the Northern Hemisphere, I find it prudent to put that out there ahead of time.

>>4797429
>Side note: It's hilarious every summer some dude complains about his tank being too hot then some smoothbrain says to put a frozen bottle of water into a 20G tank. A 16 oz frozen bottle will reduce the temperature of 82F of 17G water a whole 0.37 degrees (a standard 20G long will hold closer to 17G of water when filled to a reasonable amount and with substrate/hardscape). As summer is nearly upon us in the Northern Hemisphere, I find it prudent to put that out there ahead of time.
Accurate but you're looking at the system as a whole and forgetting about the temperature gradient, yes it won't do much for the systems overall temperature but it will reduce the temperature in the local area by a greater margin which provides an area for fish to 'cool down'.

Not that I would recommend this method, there's far more efficient options available.

>>4797435
>temperature gradient
>in a body of water
>with brownian motion
Kek. Anon, if you fart in an elevator, does it only stink within two inches of your ass?

>>4797342
Volume isnt as important as depth but honestly I wouldn't try to keep koi in anything less than 1500l. If you can't do that, then just get some pretty goldfish.

>clean filter
>it starts killing mystery snails again (they get wedged in the connection between powerhead and filter mats)
God damn it. I blame Flanders for this.

>>4797429
i've only ever seen people do this with axolotl

>>4797450
Does it not stink more closer to the ass, particularly immediately after the fart?

>>4797435
Fans are definitely the way to go, a set of computer fans totaling maybe 6W will drop temperature by 5-10F, particularly if the water is higher than ambient (say because you have lights on closed, glass lid and filters running).

>>4797342
At least 3ft, ideally 4ft+ deep, and it's all but impossible to get that without going to 700G+. You really want 4 digits though, or you could have water quality issues with more than a couple adult koi.

As the other anon said, I'd stick with goldfish unless you have a lot of water, they have very similar effect to Koi, just smaller. Koi are fucking big.

Plap plap plap, get berried get berried. Looks like my cherries have been getting randy in my low tech Walstad. It's chock full of guppy grass and hornwort so a good number will likely survive despite the tank mates being a tangerine lobster and a shoal of guppies.

>>4797664
>Plap plap plap, get berried get berried.
quality post

>>4795941
>>4795870
One of the little males. Got em eating frozen bloodworms yesterday. Gonna try brine tomorrow

>>4797782
>schizo rambling with a picture attached
>downie depressed cunt complaining, no picture attached
I choose picture schizo, sneed.

>>4797806
The lobster is waiting for the shrimpy babbies to emerge. The tension is palpable.

>>4797814
KEK based lobster enjoyer, don't let the naysayers bring you down.

>>4797806
… I wasn’t complaining. I laughed at the post. What is wrong with you

>>4797859
> I wasn’t complaining. I laughed at the post. What is wrong with you
quality post

>>4797805
Why people gotta hold the fish out of water to take a picture?

>>4792617
I use to have an aquarium for a beta I named "Aquaieon (pronounced Auh - kwee - ON)." I think the tank was around 20 gallons? I had a plant for it to sleep against it's own punching bag even it's own masturbating tool lol Taught that thing pretty damn well. Sometimes I think they get much much larger than we think! Possibly deep in the Marianas Trench!

"There's an order to everything." - ???

Did you know that the number 6 is a sign of nature on Earth? Look at the corners to a snow flake or the sides to a hole in a honeycomb.

is it possible to grow seaweed at home? if yes, is it worth the effort and cost? not commercially, just to grow fancy seaweed like mother of pearl for myself and as gift to friends and family

Finally, I get to post a shrimp with a fat butt.

>>4797910
Depending on your location and availability of relevant information, sure is.
https://letmegooglethat.com/?q=salt<wbr>water+macroalgae+aquarium

>>4797919
why is location and information important
also most sites write about the algae like fish food

I wanted to make seaweed for human consumption, any difference?

Are there any real plants that live in the sea or is it all just algae?

>>4797922
Location will restrict what you can/cannot get your hands on from a biosecurity standpoint, information may be non-existent if you waddle down to the beach and grab whatever is in the tidepool.
If you intend to grow a large biomass for consumption, you'll probably want a good repository of information regarding the nutrient intake, levels of iodine etc, preferably large-scale trials etc. Wild-harvested (for consumption) can be an issue with regards to bio-accumulated toxicity or wastewater runoff, botulism outbreaks etc.
Not trying to put you off or anything, I think it's a cool idea, just unsure of your scope. A snack every 3 months from private aquaculture, the elemental requirements, pest and bacterial issues etc.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/ar<wbr>ticles/PMC8700990/

>>4797926
>from a biosecurity standpoint
what

>>4797924
Primarily, if not exclusively, algae of some form.
Just like all terrestrial photosynthetic organisms are plants of some form.

>>4797926
thx for the infos, i didnt know this was scuh a controlled market

i live in a country surrounded by landmass, no seawater nearby for hundreds of miles.

I only care about saltwater macro algae I want to have as a snack every x months

>>4797928
Only true plant I could find that grows in the sea
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seagr<wbr>ass

>>4797933
God I'd love a xxtra long lagoon-style tank with seagrass.

>>4797931
No worries, tried my best to not come across as an asshole.
If it helps, I'm about 5 minutes from a beach at any given time but there is nothing I can import into NZ from anywhere when it comes to an aquaculture standpoint. Dragons breath? Nope. Caulerpa? Sorta. Chaetomorpha? Sorta but also yes, but legally you cannot sell it here.

Every now and then we get an international shipping vessel that gets told to fuck off because they have some algae on their hull.
All the best.

>>4797953
funny, seems i can buy tthe ones i want that online and have them shipped to me

how to proceed from here? im a complete aqglet, any tips appreciated

>>4797961
Nutrient import/export should get you started in google. Refugium macroalgae to hone in on topics.
Micro/macro fertilizing is a pretty mainstream thing nowadays, the world is your oyster (heh).

>>4797466
>wouldn't try to keep koi in anything less than 1500
too lazy to dig a hole that big. They are gonna have to settle for 300 liters.

I got a carnival goldfish. What am I in for?

>>4797992
Full size koi will die in that, stick to goldfish.

>red plants only
>green cherry shrimp and green kubotai
Would it be worth it?

>>4797880
Have you tried taking a decent picture of a DART-er in the tank. Also they color up better when agrivated or stressed. And it does no damage to the fish.
 >>4797910
Possible? Yes. Economical? No. It’s much cheaper to buy unless you have oceanfront property and permission to run massive pumps and have 1000s of gallons of basins.
>>4798014
It dying shortly

Building a little 5g planted to be amongst our little indoor garden. Wanna have carpet of some kind. What should I use? I'm not worried about difficulty. I'm probably gonna end up piping in a little CO2. I've had baby tears before I think and that went well. Flame moss looks cool. Gimme some ideas. Planning on having a couple shrimp too. Light wont be an issue.

Taiwan lily, nymphoides hydrophylla, is my new favorite plant.
Want to glue it to some wood or rock and grow it epiphyte style? Yes
Want to root it in substrate? Also yes
Low tech, low light, low CO2? Yes
Fast growth anyway? Yes
Easy propagation? Yes
Float this stuff on the surface and it will grow like that as well.

>>4798063
>It dying shortly
I've had it for over a week and it's active and voracious. Shows no signs of illness. I put it in a twenty gallon with aquarium salt and malachite green to sort of decontaminate it. I'm confident I can keep it healthy, but don't they get huge as fuck? Like over a foot long?

>>4798419
My sister had one goldfish that she won at the memorial day fair - it lived in a 20gal for a couple of years. It didn't get that big, like maybe a few inches?
You see this with all those old goldfish who were won at fairs, they stayed relatively small in nano tanks, despite the "muh stunted animal cruelty" crusade some folks tend to go on.

>>4798419
Depends on whether it's a fancy or a pond variety. 20 gallons for one adult fancy should be enough, so long as you have a lot of good filtration.
Send a picture of the fish? Also where the fuck do you live that goldfish are still given away in carnivals?

One of my astrea snails must have some mutant gene, the fucker is the same size as my trochus snails. It's actually comical to see him next to the other astrea snails.<br>Bonus: photo bomb from one of the clowns hosting a xenia in the bottom left corner.

>>4798422
>it lived for a couple of years
Goldfish can live over 10 years.
>You see this with all those old goldfish who were won at fairs, they stayed relatively small in nano tanks
That's called stunting and it severely reduced the lifespan of the animal by fucking it up severely, dipshit.

Can anyone ID the species of these snails? They're in a pond in eastern MA, I'd bet they're the same species that used to be sold as "American trapdoor snails" by aquahuna, but not really sure.

They were big, golfball+ in size. I wanted to adopt them - they looked cold and lonely in the pond - but I know that'd be adopting all their parasites as well, so I left them alone.

>>4798427
>Depends on whether it's a fancy or a pond variety.
Common, not even a comet. He has essentially a natural carp bodytype. Currently 2.75 inches-ish.
>Also where the fuck do you live that goldfish are still given away in carnivals?
Southern U.S. My dad was doing security at a carnival and knows I keep fish, so he got me one.

>>4798451
20g won't be enough for it then. You're right, comets get to over a foot long and are exceptionally messy fish.

>>4798452
>counting the tail as meaningful length
Disregarded.

But 20g is still going to be difficult (take more maintenance to keep fish alive), he's right on that.

>>4798434
The longest lived goldfish were all stunted. Hormonal stunting > genetic stunting (fancies)

Anons sisters fish probably passed away from poor water conditions

>>4798459
>Hormonal stunting > genetic stunting (fancies)
Elaborate, because this is a retarded statement. That's like saying a jack russel that spent the first three years of it's life in a shoe box and has twisted legs and underdeveloped organs is healthier than a pug.

>>4798419
Yes, you are looking at a fish that gets gigantic, eats everything, is filthy, and has severe genetic issues.
Long term to keep a single comet you will need a minimum of a 75 gallon, weekly 50-70 percent water changes. And the desire not to own anything other than goldfish and big snails (sometimes eaten still).
>>4798422
>>4798452
>>4798458
>>4798459
Hormonal stunting is one thing, it messes up the fish, and reduces the lifespan by fucking up the nervous system. Looking at a max 2-3 year old fish. This is from high nitrates and other organics and can happen to just about any fish.
Some like discus release hormones that stop growth before organic content reaches threatening levels. Which is why discus keepers who want big discus do like 100 percent water changes. Goldfish however don’t release those hormones. So it’s all toxins stunting it

What most fish suffer from is going to be confined stunting. They are in a small swimming space, but with a lot of food. So the body stops growing the best it can. But fishes growth pattern requires constant growth if there is constant food. Meaning organs, like the heart, liver, and digestive system of the fish continue growing and fail. Horribly painful death for a fish

Genetic stunting, like in common variants of dance goldfish, reduces the actual growth potential of the fish. Meaning the organs and nervous system are less affected by it not reaching its maximum size.

Keeping a fish recorded to hit 16 inches in a 24 inch tank is retraed if you actually care about the animal. Spend the 100 extra bucks and buy a 75.

>>4798427
He won it at a carnival? You really think there gonna give out 10+ dollar fish? Nah it’s the stuff you can buy at the bait store.

>>4798459
You are retarded. Longest lived goldfish were genetic freaks kept alive by Asians for their sick sense of animal cruelty. Doesn’t matter what type it was they did some insane stuff to keep those things alive.

>>4798434
>some retard gets butthurt over a 25c goldfish

>>4798479
Thanks, ChatLGBT!
Now imagine someone's gonna read all that!
lol, lmao even

>>4798484
>Bases the life of an animal off its price
Shiggity
>>4798486
I really hate how in todays society when someone is genuinely smarter than you you can just say OH ITS AI SO IM RIGHT. Like have you considered I’m better than you stupid bitch?

The Cory cats patrol the bottom while the pearls gaurd the mid and top of this 36g

Wondering what to stock in this tank. There’s some wcmms in it already but it can hold more.

>>4798479
>Long term to keep a single comet you will need a minimum of a 75 gallon, weekly 50-70 percent water changes. And the desire not to own anything other than goldfish and big snails (sometimes eaten still).
I will "yes and" this by saying that a Walstad style planted tank will help obviate the need for some of those changes, IF you have an absurdly fast growing plant (hornwort, guppy grass, duckweed, maybe water lettuce and/or amazon frogbit) AND you don't care about your aquascaping. Mine did well for years with some Japanese trapdoors. I did keep it for some time with cherry shrimp, which hid well in the column plants. My goldfish didn't care at all for hornwort so it made a safe refuge and was an easy way to trap and remove nitrogen. Hornwort doesn't shed needles in cold water.

>>4798479
The twenty gallon seems plenty roomy for now. Are there any vague guidelines for goldfish mass and aquarium size outside of fully grown ones?

>>4798484
He may be a dirt cheap fish and there may be a trillion just like him but he's in my care now and I feel obliged to provide for him.

>>4798497
I temporarily housed him in a ten gallon with guppies and he ignored the guppies, including their fry, but ate over half the duckweed that had previously roofed over the entire surface. He also tried eating snails but spit them up.

>>4798497
I agree, but I’ve had goldfish that view planted tanks like an all you can eat buffet. So try it with caution
>>4798499
Yeah, I try and ensure that my fish has at least 6x its length in swimming room. And 3x its length front to back. So for a 20 gallon that would put you getting a new tank around 4” including the tail.
>>4798501
Good mindset

>>4798489
>have you considered I’m better than you
not even once
>>4798501
>he's in my care now and I feel obliged to provide for him
see >>4798484

>>4798507
It's actually a twenty gallon long. 30x12-ish

>>4798512
>not once
Understandable, people with your mental disposition don’t tend to do a lot of considering

>>4798516
Still would say around 4 inches

I come back after months away and still, it’s some morons bickering at each other. At least Flanders was creative in his insane way.

>>4798537
>>4798546
we weren’t at bump limit yet doe…


I am currently growing tobacco and poppies. What are some other narcotic plants one can easily (or not so easily) grow at home, inside or outside?

>>4793803
Morning Glories or Hawaiian Rose. Both have beutiful flowers and contain LSA. Syrian rue is another good one which you can combine with other psychedelics to amplify effects. Other than that you can look into mushrooms or cacti for something different.

>>4793809
Never heard of this one, checking it out.
>>4793812
Morning glory is a good idea, they have it in my local store. Thanks anon!

Forgot to mention I also have a San Pedro, very easy to grow. Might also get a Peyote simply because they are beautiful.

>>4793829
Why do you give people such bad advice?

>>4793818
>Peyote
Keep in mind those take years before they are psychoactive. It is why old specimens are so expensive.

>>4793856
Yeah, hence simply because they are beautiful.

>>4794142
>>4794133
No, horrible psychic visions with death to follow.

>>4794142
That is beautiful. Can it grow in zone 5a?

>>4793803
I'm growing opium poppy too, not to harvest just for show... I grew Iceland poppy last year and really loved it so I'm trying the "official poppy" this year along with more Iceland and some California.

>>4794285
Looks more like chemistry than gardening.

How the hell has nobody mentioned the obvious?
I grow hemp by accident because the seeds are in my birdfeed. I'm a little surprised they haven't been heat treated or something to kill them but they grow just fine.
I don't smoke the stuff but I think the plants are pretty and smell nice. I can't get myself to remove them.

>>4794292
What bird seed has hemp? I haven't seen it. Mostly I get lots of sunflowers popping up everywhere, and some millet that just looks like grass.

And lots of birds shit out this plant (pic) and it grows in the stones at the end of my driveway every year. Lady's thumb. It's invasive but looks pretty nice and they like to eat it so I just let a few grow.

>>4794288
>chemistry
My man, he is just collecting spores and growing them in water.

>>4794285
This, but for the love of god don't do what that guy in the webm did. Its shitty technique and methodology despite how fancy and technical his setup may look like.

>>4794288
You put spores in substrate as you would seeds in water. Then it grows mycelium as a plant would grow roots and then sprout a mushroom to spread spores as a flower would grow to spread pollen.

>>4794308
LAYS ME DOWN, WITH MY MIND SHE RUNS

I got morning glory seeds today, as well as ordering a small peyote. Thanks anons!

>>4793812
I tried HBWR and I can say LSA isn't as fun as shrooms, first time was okay just kind of made the colours more vivid and made me feel peacefu, but when I upped the dose the next time I got cramps, felt nauseous and felt depersonalised for days after
One of the worst experiences in my life desu
Just a warning for those who want to grow them

>>4793803
t. pachanoi is a great active cactus that's very easy to grow

>>4794925
disregard I didn't read far enough

>>4794305
we have bird food made entirely of hemp seeds. sold in 1-5kg bags. a couple of those sprouted in my garden as well.
t. Austria

>>4794453
> This, but for the love of god don't do what that guy in the webm did. Its shitty technique and methodology despite how fancy and technical his setup may look like.
Why? As it seems, it works well.

>>4794912
Comparing LSA to other psychedelics is where most people get caught out and have a bad time. The cramps and nausea is not from the LSA but is instead entirely the seed, it is why these symptoms are eliminated with taking pure LSA after extracting it. Couple this with people being unaware that most HBWR seeds on the open market are coated in pesticides and that LSA as a chemical causes vasoconstriction at high doses its easy to find horror stories. The first bad trip I ever had was on a low dose of HBWR because I was unaware of all of these factors and was awake all night until the following morning with the 12 hour trip length. But after recovering from that expereince I learned my lesson and did my research to properly prepare for my second dose and did so at 13 seeds. The second time was miles better and the only reason I havent gone back is the 12 hour trip length as Shrooms 6 hour length is more manageable for my routine. The after glow from LSA is trully incredible and I had it for roughly 2 days before losing that relaxed sensation. At low doses you can see distortions in low light or dark rooms and at high doses closed eye visuals, but the calm emotional high is the most pronounced feature of LSA. I dont meditate but assuming the Buddha postion and slowly rocking back and forth on a moderate dose puts you into a completely content trance like state which I have yet to experience from another psychedelic.

All in all I agree that LSA shouldn't be a first choice for most people, but it can be a rewarding experience and is by far the easiest legal psychedelic to get hold of.

>>4794997
To quickly summarise their fruting chamber is shit with condensation dripping onto their substrate which is not fully colonised before fruiting can even begin, liquid spore solutions are unreliable and prone to contamination when compared to other techniques such as agar but beginners do it because its cheap and easy. Mushroom harvesting is shit too as there were several caps growing too big and turning upwards which means they have left them to grow for too long (psilocybin content is decreased by allowing that to happen and the cap releases spores when it does that)

>>4795004
how does one correctly consume those seeds? are they simply eaten? I've never taken any drugs and I don't smoke but I'd like to try it out at some point with something that isn't life threatening

>>4795026
I will write up a mini safety guide later on in my time zone. But they can be fairly safe but like any other psychedelic you need to make sure that you are in a place where you feel safe and secure. Especially when HBWR lasts 12 hours.

>>4795110
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khat
>Khat contains the alkaloid cathinone, a stimulant which causes greater sociability, excitement, mild loss of appetite and mild euphoria. Among communities from the areas where the plant is native, khat-chewing has historical relevance (as a social custom, especially among men) dating back thousands of years, analogous—but slightly different—to the use of coca leaves in South America's Andes Mountains or the betel nut preparations in South Asia.

>>4794292
Some species of hemp can grow quite tall and beautiful. They aren’t psychoactive, though.

>>4795114
Isn’t that the plant that 80% of somalia is addicted to?

>>4795110
Can you even grow that outside the middle east?

>>4793803
From where dis you get the opium poppy seeds and the tobacco seeds? The Jasmine tobacco looks beautiful when blooming

>>4795026
Part 1/2
First things first I will say that HBWR is not the best psychoactive substance to do for the first time. If you are looking for something to start out with mushrooms have the least amount of caveats with the only catch that you will have to wait maybe a month for them to be ready for harvesting. Mushroom spores are legal to buy in the US and most of Europe as the spores are not regulated and reputable self contained grow kits are common place to also be legally purchased online.

But if you are dead set on HBWR then what you will need is UNTREATED seeds. These are seeds which are free of pesticides and you can only obtain these online as almost every store will have pre-treated seeds to last longer in stock (and they are not expecting anyone to eat them to care enough in the first place). Thankfully these seeds are easy to find untreated and you can even buy them cheaply in bulk on sites like ebay. The reason you will find it in bulk is because these sellers know that HBWR is commonly used in LSD production and that people who work in LSD labs require a metric fuckton of seed. The reason HBWR is required is because LSA is a component of LSD and a lot of people even equate LSA's effects as a hallucination-free form of LSD. Honestly though both of them are still entirely different beasts, but it illustrates what you are dealing with here.

When you have the untreated seeds I would then recommend extracting the LSA and you can find a handful of guides online that talk through the progress. Minor chemistry is involved but nothing more complicated than mixing A with B in this beaker with some open heat. But if you don't want to do that and use them straight away you can put 3-5 seeds in your mouth and ***lightly*** chew to crack the seed shells a little bit before downing with water to swallow. You should only be able to taste the slightly bitter seed shell and nothing else. For the next 12 hours if you have done it right you should have a mild dose.

>>4795026
>>4795172
Part 2/2
Over the course of these 12 hours make sure you have water to keep hydrated and as always you are safe and secure. Have some music of relaxing videos to watch and try to aim for something like 9 in the morning when you first take them because the trip will end by 21:00 in the late evening. If you take these after work at around 18:00 you are going to be awake until 06:00 in the morning because you cannot fall asleep while under the effects of psychedelics. On top of this once you are tripping you cannot simply stop the trip and you have to commit. If you don't your trip will go bad and you can get stressed and have something like an anxiety or panic attack. As long as you are aware of this and you are willing to ride the trip out you will be fine and make it out in one piece and hopefully have an interesting experience to look back on.

But earlier you might have noticed I talked about how to have a mild dose. This is because for your first time it should below so you can get an idea of what the trip will be like. But it is also because of nausea. A full dose of HBWR will make you sick and it is not a nice experience to have, but you will receive the full effects in their intensity. To do that you will need to chew the seeds to mush in your mouth and let them sit for as long as you can before swallowing. Turning the seed to mulch allows for a release of the LSA that is contained within them and letting it sit in your mouth will allow some of the LSA to enter your system early as it follows the same philosophy as LSD tabs that rest on the tongue. The nausea will last anywhere from 1 hour to 2 hours before it disappears and the trip kicks in. I recommend sitting upright as comfortably as you can with a bin next to you and when you start to trip to rest on you bed or couch. Nausea will return on the last 1 to 2 hours of the trip so be ready by then and make sure you are not on your back so you don't choke on your vomit.

>>4795026
>>4795172
>>4795184
Part 2/2 +1
Last bit of advice is don't drink or smoke. LSA shrinks your veins temporarily and it is best compared to the feeling of stepping out of a hot bath and feeling tender. It can feel nice and relaxing but this pressure on your veins can be dangerous blood pressure wise when combined with other things that affect it such as drink and cigarettes as I just mentioned. It is also why you shouldn't take HBWR regularly and you should allow for a week or two of time in-between doses to make sure that the first amount of LSA is out of your system fully so you don't compound the pre-existing amount in your system even more. But as long as you are sensible, this shouldn't be a concern to be worried about.

>>4795172
>>4795184
>>4795187
Greatly appreciate all the information, anon. I'll do some additional research before I decide on anything.

>>4793803
I'd avoid anything that's not a psychedelic. Opioids are meh, dissociatives and stimulants can be interesting. Deliriants should be avoided at all cost.

>>4794906
Don't mind him, he's one of the vision demons. He hates when you make an incursion into "his" world.

Salvia. Easy to grow, legal and a very good time.

>>4793814
Heads up not any kind of morning goory will do, you have to buy the blue variety to get the LSA :)

>>4794281
>>4795144
>>4793803
I got some opium poppies in my garden too, just for show, but now i'm curious what it's like to smoke it. I have been warned it's extremely addictive by people who i can't imagine know a lot about it. Is it really that bad?

>>4798883
Its pure fucking opium anon. It is what all other pharmaceutical pain killers that have led to the heroin (and by extension fent) crisis in america is derived from.

>>4795140
That's like saying 80% of Europe is addicted to alcohol

>>4798883
smoking opium as opposed to injecting it is relattively harmless

>>4799547
look at it like this: it's a plant, it's natural. Would you rather eat a tomato or ketchup? would you rather drink coca cola with coca leaves or snort straight cocaine? the natural version is way better basically always.

have you tried it or are you just being a lil bitch cause of what you read online?

mushrooms are really easy. hops aren't interesting but they will knock you out if brewed into a strong tea.

>>4793812
LSA is shit

mushrooms are really easy. hops aren't interesting but they will knock you out if brewed into a strong tea.

>>4793812
LSA is the shit

>>4793829
Just be sure to chew it up, don't smoke it

>>4799599
>look at it like this: it's a plant, it's natural. Would you rather eat a tomato or ketchup? would you rather drink coca cola with coca leaves or snort straight cocaine? the natural version is way better basically always.
I had to double check i wasn't on /ck/, that's the exact kind of retardation that gets spewed on there semi-oftenly

>>4798883
i smoked a glob of it over a decade ago in college and the buzz only lasted for like 15 minutes. very underwhelming. snorting oxys was far more enjoyable.

>>4799599
m8, raw opium is like 10% morphine. no different than pharmaceuticals

>>4799599
>look at it like this: it's a plant, it's natural.
It being natural or not is beside the point. I would not do it and would heavily advise anyone who gets the idea to do opioids recreationaly to reconsider.

>>4799909
>raw opium is like 10% morphine
The amounts of morphine, codeine etc vary.

>>4799924
>I would not do it and would heavily advise anyone who gets the idea to do opioids recreationaly to reconsider.
>I have not had Pepsi even once in my entire life but, I 100% guarantee you will like it.

>>4800307
point being it's literally the same stuff that is in the pills

>>4794285
Let's say you grew the mushrooms like this (But did it better like >4795012 said) and you had some psilobycin mushrooms. What then? Can you just chew on them raw?

>>4800347
>Can you just chew on them raw?
yup. they taste godawful though, like eating dirt. i think i swigged mine with orange juice. also you get an immense stomachache an hour later. some people vomit.

>>4793803
Ephedra sinca
Camellia sinensis, not narcotic but easy to grow in the right climate, camforest is a good us vendor
Valerian also not narcotic

>>4800347
>>4800415
Interesting, I had a completely different expereince with mine. I ate them fresh (17g) and the taste was slightly bitter but nothing egregious. I downed them with water and got no cramps or nausea despite eating a ton of them and I normally get nauseous with other stuff like HBWR.

>>4800448
It gets worse every time you do it. First time I didn't mind the taste, then it got progressively worse and at this point the taste would make me insta-vomit.

>>4800415
>>4800438
>>4800598
Ah. Is there a way of doing it that doesn't cause chunder, and makes it more palatable? Like drying it or making a tea?

>>4800600
Tea with lemon works alright for me. Easier to down it, the lemon converts psilocybin into psilocin which makes it hit faster, and the lemon also masks the taste to some degree. Make the tea strong so you can chug it easily. Should be plenty of guides online.

>>4800600
>>4800601
Also, just accept it may make you feel a lil queasy. You may vomit once it hits you, that's fine and normally you'll feel a lot better once you do and then you're off.

>>4793803
Mushrooms and salvia divinorum are super easy to grow.
Same for mescaline cactus.

>>4800601
>lemon converts psilocybin into psilocin
Thats mostly theory and psychedelic lore. It hasn't really been proven if it has a tangible impact if at all negligible.

>>4800598
Huh, interesting.

>>4800600
I have heard some people dry it and then coat it in icing to make it more palatable. You can also grind it into a fine powder and mix it into food or even make tablets.

>>4800600
yeah i've heard of people making it a tea. probably tastes just as bad, at least you don't have to chew

>>4800637
Huh, cool. Makes it easier to drink either way, so can't hurt.
>>4800646
The chewing is really the worst part. Chugging a decilitre or two of (strained) sour, kinda nasty tea is over in a second. The doughy, earthy sludge is really awful. But I'm also squeamish, I can see some people doing it easily.


What's your guy's favorite animal youtuber?

>>4794404
>WOW!
he couldn’t think of something better?

The autistic guys who don't show their ugly faces and tell you about prehistoric taxonomy groups. Importantly those who DO NOT meme and dumb down their content.<br>Basically content made only for autists like me and not for slackjawed retards obsessed with pop culture

>>4794416
Do people like that even exist anymore? Everyone on jewtube is just eternally chasing ad revenue and nord vpn sponsorships these days

>>4794404
Clint's running out of animals to make pet videos for, seems like we only get those once in a blue moon now

Cow Turtle. I mostly watch plant youtubers these days.

>>4794606
>sex joke
>jerry why did you ____
>monotone voice saying something emotional
>sex joke
>scripted annoying fake laugh
>sex joke
>really shitty song for some reason
>reading of wikipedia
>sex joke
>sex joke

truly peak content

>>4794611
>>scripted annoying fake laugh
This is the main reason why i enjoyed his older videos but not his new ones, shit's annoying

>>4794404
>mfw he shows his wife in a video and she has a lizard face
yeah this guy definitely loves reptiles alright

Moth Light Media, he makes videos about the evolution of animals, and does so in a perfectly understandable way and without any stupid jokes or distractions.
Paleo Analysis and The Budget Museum are also pretty good.

>>4794425
Ben G.Thomas, haven't watched many of his videos but really should, they seem rather well made.

>>4794430
Sadly true it’s (largely) a thing of the past
>>4794611
>>4794617
Yeah his newer content feels kind of forced, the Jerry stuff especially, but he does apparently get in touch with actual biologists/zoologists for info at least

https://www.youtube.com/@RiotTheRed<wbr>Fox/videos

Riot is a precious lad.

Roxy is kind of a shit.

There's a few others but tl;dr I could just about stan for the owner.

Peak content.

>>4794728
This. It takes a few videos to get over the zoomer shit but after that it’s five star content.

>>4794768
He's tolerable for a zoomer. We're not getting any younger bro.

>>4794728
>>4794768
>>4794771
He’s a zoomer? That rescues animals? Pretty cool

>>4794789
He's 25 years old, and he turned a crack house property in Waco, Texas into an animal rescue. He has many different animals on the property, including rheas and ostrich and capybaras and ducks and geese, and he also does rehab for lost or injured animals. He's a saint.

I don't follow any really. I just look for one that has the topic I'm interested in and I click.
So long as they don't use faggot thumbnails. The moment they use a thumbnail, dropped.
>Don't hate the player
>Hate the game
You can absolutely hate both.

>>4794803
WACO?

HE'S IN WHACKO?

MR.OVERALLS IS OUT HERE ABOUT A TWO HOUR DRIVE AWAY FROM ME?

>>4794465
The phylogyny videos are more interesting anyway

>>4794818
Yeah man he's in Waco, you can go volunteer at his facility.

>>4794803
it's legitimately impressive what he's done with the property, went from having to wear shoes cause of old needles lying around to having an enclosure capable of housing Birds of Prey

I like Clint, he's a cringey redditoit basedboy but I enjoy his videos anyway. The phylogeny ones more than the pet rating videos.
Is there another channel doing phylogeny videos, ideally with a calmer presenter?

>>4794606
>>4794611
I agree with
>>4794617

This dude. He goes around catching random insects and animals for the camera.<br>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5HE<wbr>aRQ6PYXc

>>4794404
>https://youtu.be/y-3bImbSJCM?t=68
Guy finds $0.50 dinosaur toys and autistically breaks down everything incorrect about them, as well as a history of their various reconstructions and why each bone is shaped the way that it is.
The little faux-paper animations are nice too.

>>4794771
I didn’t mean any offense to Uncle Ben, I’m only a couple years older than him myself, I just meant that his editing is erratic and he makes constant references to zoomer celebrities/youtubers. He’s still a great guy and an amazing worker as >>4794803 and >>4794837 pointed out. Probably the most genuinely good youtube personality with over a million subs. People like Ben make the world a better place.

>>4794803
>>4794837
How did he do it? I guess he had a lot of money to begin with?

>>4794465
You could tell when the guy named clint's reptiles had to make a video calling mammals the hagfish of reptiles and started doing pet reviews on mammals. He's eventually gonna start calling fish reptiles because of phenotypic shit like scales or some shit.

>>4794934
Money from YouTube. He rescued a pair of Rhea just started vlogging about raising them and over time became popular and started getting enough money to continue growing the project until he bought the property and started building stuff. He’s owned the property for years and only this year finally built the last of the major projects.

>>4794430
yes, one I like is Dr polaris. Extinct zoo was good but now he's starting to normiefy his content slowly but surely. I am not a child, I don't need to be pandered to about how "nope" prehistoric animals are. If I wanted that I could watch jurassic park.
>>4794610
Cow turtle is awesome. I am very jealous of him lol. Wish I had a cistern to turn into a pond too.
>>4794606
>>4794611
I used to be a fan of him but I his style doesn't really hit me right anymore. He makes good videos though.
>>4794661
Moth light is one of the good ones yes. >>4794425
I would watch him if I didn't constantly have to look at two literal minecraft steve as heads and a bog goblin the entire video.
>>4794728
His "relatable zoomer" act is annoying but otherwise he does awesome stuff.
>>4794860
Good one, general apathy is a great bug channel. There is also a really eloquent spiderfag channel caled bugs and biology that I really like. He talks about everything invertabrate and is australian so he goes to the northern rainforests frequently and also has a big ass huntsman spider crawling all over his head whenever he is recording in his room. He also likes to call out sensationalist bs which is very welcome in the animal community nowadays.
>>4794881
This guy and those like him ignite my inner paleo schizo. Just the name of his channel gives out the worst zoyboy vibes.

>>4794404
Portuguese: William Menq from Planeta Aves.
English: Danielle Default from AnimalLogic

>>4794728
He peaked with the 500k video, that was genuinely unhinged lmao. calmed down ever since

>>4794881
This is the only exclusively paleo channel i watch anymore

>>4795275
I went to go watch it and fucking lost it at the zoom in on his ass when he goes to the fridge. Absolute crackhead documentary behavior. I don't remember the episode but my favorite Uncle Ben moment was when he goes on an unhinged rant about the Waco County Farmer's Market not allowing him to sell eggs as he releases a live snake he found in a parking lot into the chicken coop to consume them all.

>>4795488
he finished all his major building projects on his property, got all his permits, and was able to make more content on his actual job

>>4795509
He doesn't have all his permits yet, the eternal State requires permits for every fucking individual animal. He just recently got approved to rehab 'coons.

>>4795488
the 500k video was back when he had all the animals in his backyard. He wears an incredible suit then calls his rhea a cuck and cracks his egg open in front of him and then slurps it up while telling him he'll be fucking his wife (he got salmonella from this and spent one month on the shitter). easily the magnum opus of this channel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gr4<wbr>8qjUSpks

>>4796086
I prefer the backyard saga. Cast was less giant and the setting was comfier and felt less high stakes.

For me it's Dave, just comfy spiderkino and no drama.

>>4796162
Not like there’s any Big Ounce nowadays.

The Backyard Naturalist is a funny bloke in the right way<br>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GAq<wbr>qbtvpEpY

>>4796178
ok...? he's still a large part of his content after he moved from the backyard ranch

>>4794416
So Moth Light Media and...?
Serious question, I'd love more like him, but I don't know of any.

>>4796388
looks like he's introducing a new Prairie Dog in his next video

>>4794404
I've been enjoying Animal Analytics

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Rz<wbr>qAq3P5OY

Despite the clickbaity thumbs, Tsuki’s stuff is wholesome.

https://youtu.be/XrN4_9dQ6Js?si=hj1<wbr>yMB4ufoW0067d

>>4794728
I need to start watching uncle farmer ben again. I'm out of date on all his wacky escapades in rescuing animals. I do know that Dababy (doorknob) got a wife and big ounce died. May big ounce finally have enough to eat somewhere in the sky.

>>4796110
They were peak comfy. Feeding Karen from the window and occasionally giving Kevin a much needed bonk from the trash can lid.