/frag/ - Fragrance General #1068

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>>18118351
The Fragrance Groups 101 chart

>>18118351
The Fragance Flowchart for Beginners

What does Iso-E smell like? I see it referenced in lots of videos, but I don't know what it smells like. Similarly, what does Hedione (sp?) smell like? I see that referenced as well.

>>18118352
>>18118355
fantastic as always
you can cry and leave if you disagree

>>18118361
pencil shavings, wood shavings, wood in general, can be a little bit musky or you might be noseblind to it

Love those 80s 'barbershop' fragrances like Paco Rabanne PH and Cerruti 1881 PH.

Are there any others similar, or maybe a more modern interpretation?

>>18118410
eau savage, zino, invasion barbare to name a few

This video speaks volumes<br>https://www.youtube.com/shorts/UNv3<wbr>nZGSaDM

Sotd Portfolio - Neroli Canvas<br>Can't trump Neroli

>>18118433
what an inredibly retarded post and video

The fact that Replica discontinued "Whispers at the Library" and "At the Barbers" is killing me.

>>18118438
>>18118444
trips confirm what was already known: that line of frags sucks

>>18118444
Funny enough this is my first time in /frag/. Perhaps I'm just basic?

>>18118352
>>18118355
garbage as always
>>18118394
retarded and embarrassing as always
>>18118438
total trash

>>18118438
Margiela fragrances are bad tho.

>>18118438
I got a bottle of by the fireplace from my friend, it's nice but I wish it didn't go so hard on the vanilla.

Thoughts on Electabuzz Empoleon? Is it really the new Creed Aventus?

>>18118535
>Bongwater
Bongs have never made a good perfume. It's true. It's never happened once

>>18118535
how embarrassing
>>18118546
extremely real

>>18118535
Way too much vanilla, it lacks the creamy musky oakmoss drydown. Instead you get fecal oud thrown in there.

>>18118361
It's one of those scents that is very different to a lot of people. To some it's very alluring. however to a minority, myself included, it can be VERY acrid an off putting. I get a bit of a burnt hair/bug spray vibe from it and can't stand heavy ISO E scents (terre d'hermes, encre noir etc)

>>18118813
maybe a few of those but floris is certainly good

>>18118361
See if you can find Escentric Molecule 01 somewhere to test, it’s basically pure iso-E super. Spray it on a strip and take it with you, so you can play around how easily you can smell it (from distance, after breaks) and how fast you go noseblind to it.

To me, it’s a pleasant, subtly woody scent that I can smell easily even from far away, but I also go noseblind to it super fast and the scent doesn’t really ”scale” with distance like usual scents do. You know how you can catch a whiff of some scent in another room and when you get closer to source it becomes stronger? With super iso-E, I don’t really get that, I just go noseblind if I try to get a good noseful of it by sniffing it up close.

Any fragrances similar to this but with better projection and performance? This is my favorite green fragrance but you only get like 3 hours of it and with terrible projection.

>>18118825
fortunately no
but there are a lot of other green fragrances that are much better

>>18118826
Like what? Havent found one that is as pleasant as this

>>18118828
pleasant in what way? I remember greenley as rather mediocre when I tested it
try quorum or bogart signature/ one man show for heavy green masculine

>>18118833
In the sense that it is lighter I guess? Some other ones like cool water and other older green fragrances have a wet and heavier feel, as if I'm in the middle of a forest after it rained. Greenley smeels more like walking along the grass on the outskirts of said forest.

>>18118838
evidenced by what exactly?
>>18118839
nothing's comning to mind right now, sorry
>>18118846
none

>>18118858
evidenced by their dismal perfume lineup

>>18118859
>t. hasn't smelled any
are they not old and masculine enough for your indian tastes?

>>18118860
i went to their flagship store on saville row last year. they’re middling at best, outright fradulent and screechy at worst.

SOTSD soir de marrakesh
>>18118839
paco rabanne pour homme is lighter than the others from it's period. grauton ppur homme is similar, more modern but a bit soapier. cyber garden if you dare. also cabochard. there are countless fragrances that try to emulate the "freshly mowe grass" scent but i can't remember any of them because i don't care for them
>>18118846
fags on parfumo hyping widian to hell and back at the same time as roja dove and xerjoff makes me not even want to test anything fron the brand. probably smells uninspired.

>>18118865
>outright fradulent and screechy
that would be creed

>>18118869
worry not, floris makes similar claims about their vetiver, supposedly from the 1800s and, according to them “the world”: first vetiver perfume”. it also smells absolutely nothing like vetiver, but no one cares enough about it (or anything from floris, for the matter) to dispute their claims on any front.

>>18118870
fantastic display by the bongs then

>>18118873
give them a visit on jermyn street if you ever get the chance, you’ll find plenty of questionably stored vintage perfume samples from their back catalog in their backroom accompanied with extraordinarily absurd claims and equally preposterous scents.

>>18118877
>questionably stored vintage perfume samples
surely they don't stand in the front display in the sun right?
>extraordinarily absurd claims
I don't fall for marketing

>>18118882
not quite, they’re stored in a pull-out cabinet, but all of them smell extremely off and very rubbing alcohol-like. i’m inclined to believe they’re not in the best shape.

>>18118535
Probably the most authentic british niche house because everything they've ever made has been dogshit

dior homme edt or armani code parfum bros?

>>18119090
both garbage, although the armani at least has the very funny historical trivia of formerly being named “black code” which you should google.

>>18118438
describe jazz club to me
i am intrigued

>>18119116
garbage, trash, refuse, waste.

How do people feel about Memo Winter Palace these days?

what's best fragrance for my girlfriend to wear when i want her to smell like my boyfriend?

>>18118361
ISO E is airy dry woody
Hedione is a white floral scent, a cleaner and more abstract version of jasmine

>>18118410
Boucheron PH is a bit like 1881, but with a heavier base

>it's summer
>be outside
>see thots left and right
>ignore thots
>see a soft walking, soft behaving girl in a dress
>fell in love
Sotd Aventus

>>18119116
Warm and spicy. Tobacco and booze notes. Not much sweetness at all. It’s a really pleasant fragrance but only last briefly

>saves your shit longevity fragrance when layering
>makes people around you go nuts
>makes your cells dance
have you taken the Iso E Super pill?

>>18118361
>>18118394
>>18118804
>>18118820
>>18119223
And here all this time I thought the peppery note in Terre d’Hermes was from the IsoE.

>>18119515
I think it comes from the pepper
hope this helps

>>18119451
True, we need to go back to Drakkar Noir and Aventus

https://youtu.be/Njhl2Pq-kTI<br>This video speaks volumes

>>18119447
I sprayed molecule 01 on myself one time before sending it back
My couch smelled like iso E for months afterwards for some reason. This shit is strange, you don't smell it but at the same time you catch wafts of it

>>18119515
Terre has a ton of pepper in it

SOTD: Maison Alhambra Tobacco Touch
This is a 1:1 clone of Tobacco Vanille. I thought arab clones were cringe for a long time, but these are incredible. I also have the Neroli Portofino clone and it's great but on the weak side, just like the original.
I can justify clones if the owners are reprehensible.
Tom Ford: gay
Creed: owned by kike Blackrock

>>18119728
it would be even better to not buy arabshit of questionable quality but I can't say anything because I have done just that

>>18119738
why is that better? sometimes it's the only way you can get that DNA. i don't care if it was made in an arab's bathtub.

>>18119746
well maybe you should but yes sometimes it is the only way
can't imagine it'd be a significant problem if you only use like one bottle in 5 years or smth

>SOTD Heritage EdT
I didn't understand what ""well-blended"" meant re: fragrances until I got into Guerlain.

>>18119757
Yep. Five years ago I got a 200ml of Habit Rouge for $50 and it smells higher quality than any of the $300-$400 masstige that I have tried.

>>18119728
>>18119746
or you could just not buy shitty incomplete perfumes and designer brief rejects.

>>18119784
whatever the resident schizo decides and tom ford slop

>>18119784
Poor quality blending, lack of evolution (linearity), insufficient complexity

>>18119801
>Poor quality blending
is not a problem in some types of fragrances
> lack of evolution (linearity)
linear scents are not bad
>insufficient complexity
not an objective metric
>>18119803
kys mowgli

>>18119804
>it's not a problem when a fragrance is shit
you do you, i guess

>>18119804
very nice selfie, maybe try posting it on WAYWT instead?

>>18119806
>soliflores and fragrances that focus on single notes are le bad because a bunch of other stuff isn't blended into them
actually on second thought I misread your first point but since you wanna act like an asshole you can go fuck yourself
>>18119810
take a picture of your bvlgari aqva why don't you

>>18119811
>soliflores literally only have a single note
>soliflores have no blending whatsoever
ROFL, maybe you really should stay in WAYWT where you can’t embarrass yourself like this.

>>18119814
>he doesn't know
and I'm not gonna tell/explain it to you also you're retarded

>>18119819
it’s too late for you to pretend like you have some sort of forbidden arcane knowledge that the rest of us don’t have access to, you’ve already exposed yourself as a mental retard without comprehension of how perfume ingredients work.

>>18119811
>since you wanna act like an asshole
nah
you are still retarded tho
>Verification not required.

>SOTD: Parfum d'Empire Le Cri de la Lumière
interesting/weird musky rose, to my nose very similar to some ELDO offerings (Hermann and Experimentum Crucis come to mind), performance is very good
well blended but not my style

>>18119820
>>18119822
do you kiss eachother when you shave your legs?

>>18119830
tell us more about your homosexual fantasies. they would go a long way towards explaining your insanity.

>>18119837
yes, we know that’s what you’re trying to do, but what else?

Reminder that Tom Ford is unironically one of the most appealing and interesting mainstream fragrance brands. Its just a shame that due to schizos in this thread and pseuds on youtube

>>18119966
Incomplete perfumery, incomplete post.
This shit writes itself.

Splitting the general has been a disaster for the quality and pace of these threads. That and the constant bitching

>>18119966
Tom Ford is great smelly water, anon. Tell any normie that you're wearing Tom Ford and they'll be impressed. Do you so desperately crave the approval of some 4chan NEETs to feel fulfilled?

>>18119784
A good example I can think of is Bottega veneta. It consists of what I'd consider all mid notes. No opening or sharp top notes to take you at first. No base notes to carry a dry down. Just mids. Although very good mids, it's a very flat, smooth, linear scent that stays the same from first spray to end and disappears way too quickly. It's a shame because I really like the part of it that it has, I just wish it had a supporting cast

>>18119346
>see thots left and right
>ignore thots
>see a soft walking, soft behaving girl in a dress
based aventus wearing elle enjoyer
rate the drip bros

>>18120117
behold, the “collection” (LOL) of the average coomer mutt defender

>>18119966
how the fuck did this shit get triple dubs
tom ford sucks ass and normies think it's good because it's expensive
people that actually care about fragrances know that that that price is no indication of quality

>SOTD: Day Three La Tacita De Café
this is a great comfort coffee scent for shitty rainy days
might buy a full bottle later on

>>18120237
somebody really should compile a list of cheapies that can compete with tom ford

>>18119966
Some are good but overall it's unimpressive and overpriced.
I like Noir Extreme/Extreme parfum, got it at discounters and it's a decent winter scent, the drydown is nice. Shitty performance though and the atomizer sucks ass.
Ombre Leather is good. Probably one of the best from the brand.
Oud Wood is good but laughably overpriced. It should cost less than half its current price. Same for most other fragrances in the line (Tuscan Leather, Tobacco Vanille, Lost Cherry, these are all pretty good but at that price point you can get something vastly more interesting and complex)
I like Oud Minerale too but apparently it's been reformulated and used to be better.

Bottom line is, Tom Ford would be quite good if the frags were 50% cheaper than they are. As of right now, they're at a price point where they can't compete with the rest. Fucking Serge Lutens is cheaper than TF and has VASTLY better quality
TF takes itself to be a niche house when it's just a good designer fragrance brand and prices should reflect that

>>18120117
Can't wait for Eros Energy to blow that shit out of the water

>>18120117
they are all really bad.
eros is a synthetic mess
bdc is overpriced, overrated and lasts 2 hours max
sauvage is peppery, headache indussing mess
dior homme is gay

Just get YSL Y EDP

I've blindly ordered it. What am I in for?

>>18120393
basically any cheapie that is considered good is most likely better than any tom ford just due to the price alone, not even considering the amount of fantastic cheap fragrances
>>18120401
>Fucking Serge Lutens is cheaper than TF and has VASTLY better quality
SL is in another league compared to slopford
and it's somehow more available in my cunt

>>18120409
The Eros line is extremely mediocre. BDC Parfum (not EDP) remains the best generic designer masculine "mass pleaser" on the market

>>18120443
>SL is in another league compared to slopford
I agree. I think it's one of the brands with the best price/quality ratio. I'm just saying that if Tom Ford was priced around the same as Chanel, Dior or Hermes' main lines (not the exclusifs/collection privee/etc lines), it'd actually be worth buying. As it stands, pretty much everything from TF's private blend line is unjustifiable

I only wear frags I'm comfortable wearing year-round. And since I don't like sweet, heavy and gourmand frags it means that even in winter I wear frags that are on the fresher side and that are considered to be closer to warm weather frags. I usually have a rotation of 2 or 3 frags that I always wear whenever I'm not currently trying samples. One of them just ran out and I wanna add a different one to the rotation but can't decide between these two. I really like both. What do you guys think? Orage or Percival?

The one that ran out is Aventus and the other two still in are Guerlain Homme and Dior Sauvage EdP. I think Percival might be the better choice because with GH I already cover the green base which I would double up if I go with Orage. Let me know what you guys think.

>>18120456
Percival was underwhelming for me compared to the OG Fierce. Get Zara Absolutely Dark for literally one tenth of the price and a scent profile that is essentially identical in the drydown (Zara's opening is harsher, more citrusy and less pleasant than Percival's smooth, more aromatic opening but the drydowns are the same). Longevity on Percival was disappointing, too.

>>18120439
Blind buying is always retarded. That said, I think 7 Cobalt is pretty nice and appealing, if not a bit safe/boring.

>>18120455
>one of the brands with the best price/quality ratio
not for ~2bucks per ml; maybe on their absolute best it's true but they have a surprisingly large amount of boring frags
for me TF is the most expensive desginer in stores next to some chanels and there is not justification for that price
and honestly I wouldn't buy them for even half the price as then the'd be competing with even more better stuff

>>18120459
People say the opening is similar to Aventus Cologne. Do you have Aventus Cologne so you can compare them?

>>18120460
Sorry I should've said one of the niche* brands with the best price/quality ratio. Tauer is similar to SL in that regard.
>TF is the most expensive
The only ones I would get are Ombre Leather and Noir Extreme. And even then, only if they were discounted
>even half the price
Yeah you made me realize that a half price 50ml of Oud Wood is still more expensive than a 50ml bottle of LADDM. lmao

>>18120461
Never smelled Aventus Cologne, sorry.

>>18120465
>one of the niche* brands
then yes
>The only ones I would get
to me no TF stands out as something I would really want, they have nothing unique
>a half price 50ml of Oud Wood is still more expensive than a 50ml bottle of LADDM. lmao
lmao indeed

>>18120472
>they have nothing unique
They consistently ride the line between mass pleasing generic and slightly interesting but never quite go into "truly interesting and complex" territory. A shame. Other designer brands managed to do it just fine, stuff like Sycomore and Oud Ispahan for example come to mind as being what TF never managed to be, that is widely appealing without compromising on complexity, originality and quality

>>18120478
too bad, we're not missing out on much anyway and I'd rather not discuss that awful house any longer

sotd: azzaro pour homme

tom ford shit is overpriced to hell but nobody else makes a leather scent that actually smells like leather.<br>Any "leather" frag that's just a load of synthetic saffron fart shit can fuck off

>18120596
come back to the thread when you smell some actually good leather frags and meanwhile kys for posting bait

>>18120496
Based Azzaro Enjoyer
SOTD:Azzaro The Most Wanted Parfum

>>18120609
forgetting the vast amout of slop

fahrennheit
cool water
lndl
armani eau
sausage elixir
most wanted

>>18120609
Armani Eau Pour Homme
Fahrenheit
Moustache
Aventus
Cool Water

>>18120609
>Sauvage Elixir
>Fahrenheit
>Aventus
>Cool Water
>BDC EDP
>¯\_(ツ)_/¯

shit taste, btw

>>18120612
we are not the same but do enjoy

>>18120609
>Aventus
Based chad
1.Aventus
2.Cool Water
3.Fahrenheit
4.Sauvage Edp

The remaining ones are for the mentally handicapped.

>>18120621
>that list
>calling someone's taste shit
you >>18120609 >>18120621 >>18120624 all have the same shit tastes

>>18120627
The other frags besides the 4 listed are for animal slop eaters.

>>18120630
as a coomer you have no right to speak on matters

>>18120596
complete and utter garbage
>>18120609
there are literally only 2 good perfumes here, and that’s being generous by including modern fahrenheit.

>>18120664
>naming Fahrenheit with Bdc in one sentence
Complete utter blasphemy

>>18120456
Go for Percival. Been my signature frag for years.

>>18120695
Percival doesn't have good projection and sillage

This thing is a beastly summer scent. Wear it when you sweat more and see how it gets activated, it literally can fill the entire gym

don't even try to respond to this shit above me<br>and yes I have to point it out since some of you guys are retarded enough to fall for it

>>18120706
kenzo homme edp also by quentin bisch is even better for warmer weather

>>18120706
painfully mid
not even the best in the EP lineup

>SOTD: Rogue Bon Monsieur

>>18120711
why do I even bother with this thread
it has died long ago and whoever's left is far too retarded and braindead to even comprehend the fact that it could be better
>>18120716
>:[

>>18120718
yes, it's shit but you're clearly not helping with the quality, anon

>>18120719
it's not like I can IP ban some of the fags, I can't even delete their posts (even though I'd get paid so much), so the only thing I can do is point out the shit and if it doesn't work so what; if I make good posts it doesn't matter either since almost no one responds to them anyway

SOTD: Fragrance World Posh Malt<br>holy fuck muglerbros, we are so back

>>18120741
literally 100% the same but with better performance and without the shittiest atomizer in the world. $20 well spent.

>>18120596
I agree, it's a nice frag. For some reason it leans feminine to my nose though

>>18120601
What are some actually good leather frags? As in, that smell like actual leather?

>>18120252
Where’d you grab your sample from?

>>18120496
>>18120612
>>18120623
I fucking kek’d and thought the same thing before >>18120623 even responded. I like Most Wanted as well, but wildly different than PH.

>>18120609
What’s up with that itty bitty Sauvage bottle up at the top?

>>18120714
I prefer Mousse Illuminee, but a respectable choice.

>>18120718
Because you know there’s no where better go. Where else ya gonna go, Reddit?

>>18120764
Oh, and
>SOTD: Desert Rosewood
It’s cool today and I wanted something warm.

>>18120764
>Where else ya gonna go
it's not like I can talk frags with anyone IRL :[
>>18120761
cuir cuba intense cuir de russie baikal leather

>>18120768
>it's not like I can talk frags with anyone IRL :[

Exactly, it’s a fucking shit show here, but it’s the lesser of many evils shit show.

>>18120761
Imo Iron Duke is a pretty fantastic leather scent, but I’m no aficionado.

>>18120772
some hope remains that perhaps it can change one day

what are the top 3 most versatile scents?

>>18120774
montale black aoud
muscs khoublai khan
naxos

>>18120774
should be long lasting (6 hours at least) and project well

>>18120778
sport flankers obvsly
lapidus ph sport for me

Does anyone here unironically wear Bond No.9 fragrances?

>>18120764
>Where’d you grab your sample from?
local niche store in eastern EU

>I prefer Mousse Illuminee, but a respectable choice.
also, i have both MI and BM, they are great

>>18120779
coincidentally my second sotd of the day that I have just put on

Opinion on Dior homme intense?
I smelled it at the store and it striked me as super cozy and somewhat refined. Like lipstick, a bit nostalgic, and like you expect the cardigan of your loved one to smell.
But people seem to have very mixed opinions about it.
Also is it worth the pricetag?

>>18120774
Acqua di Gio Profumo / Parfum
Aventus
YSL Y EDP

Thoughts on the Sauvage line? Which one is the best?

What frag to wear if I am going to be getting sweaty playing the drums but I'm too old for clubbing scents?

>>18120840
all garbage, surprise
>>18120846
also all garbage.

>>18120847
your fashion style and looks?

>>18120855
Chinos, t-shirt or flannel
Fit, shaved head, face stubble, 5'10"

>>18120861
grey flannel
lapidus pour homme

>>18120847
>>18120861
>>18120862
gay ass hipster faggot go wear santal 33 rofl
>>18120866
above his pay grade

Sovl
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oG<wbr>-nnDlnWrA

Sovlless
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mR<wbr>1fQeRqUEY

>>18120885
Goddamn that Timmy one is worse than I expected

>>18118351
What fragrance would Claude wear?

I really enjoy drinking Oud Musc by Narciso Rodriguez from time to time.

SOTD: Bergamotto di Positano.

It's like eating orange gelato with a cool ocean breeze coming through on a superyacht in the Mediterranean. I go noseblind pretty quickly if I keep trying to smell myself though. But it's perfect for this time of year.

>>18121039
What are you doing in this thread? Don't you have your own today?

>>18120774
Aventus
Aventus Cologne
Absolu Aventus

>>18121039
>>18121049
In the name of Jeremy Fragrance, get thee out of here, autist

>>18121034
It appears the advertising firm that got the contract to shill LV got their next contract from Floris.

Slightly better than LV, but still irritating.

>SOTD: Masculin Pluriel
Barbershop drags don’t get better than this. Maximally smooth, fresh and modern at the same time. This is the one I’m wearing this to my wedding next month
>inb4 hilariously horrendous
Name a better fougere much less one that hits formal AND fresh at this level of luxury, no not platinum egoiste either

>be mulatto
>matched with fat married white milf over 50 on Tinder
>try to start conversation
>she starts writing like a prostitute, only into sex, probably because of BBC
Why are boomers like that? Sotd Executive Shaving Company - Lomond

Longline-Bralette Top mit Spitze in Off-White - S _ 84% Polyamid_16% Elastan _ Ivory.jpg

>>18121148
>>inb4 hilariously horrendous
don't get mad at an indian child posting that, maybe he'll learn once he grows up

>>18120817
I own DHI. Opening is a bit too powdery but the drydown is amazing, very soft and cozy. It's a good frag for colder days or for dates

There are two kinds of douchebags that comprise almost all of fragcom. The blind-buyer and the over-sampler. They are perfect opposites and their opinions are based entirely in insecurity and should be swiftly ignored.

The blind buyer gets his purchase and doesn't think it actually lives up to the hype, but must defend the fragrance at all costs lest he be forced to admit to himself it was stupid to pay $400 for a fragrance he had never smelled based on the ramblings of child molesters on YouTube. He will loudly sing the praises of his fragrance of choice and become deeply offended at the smallest of critiques. It is not enough for the fragrance to be good, it must be ambrosia directly from Olympus.

The over-sampler is the opposite. They buy lots of samples of fragrances they cannot actually afford, and they compensate by reviewing the fragrance with over the top vitriol.
>Can't afford a fragrance? Mois? Of course not! I just didn't want to buy Aventus because it smells like a hobo ejaculated into a vat full of milk and onions and left it in the Sun for a week. Yes, it is indeed that terrible. I sprayed it on and my girlfriend died. That's why you never met her.
It's not enough for them to point out that a fragrance is basic or overpriced. It must be an all out assault on the senses.

Together these categories comprise 99% of reviewers on fragrantica. There may be ten or twelve people who do not fall into either category, but I am skeptical.

>>18121148
a total joke
>>18121239
nice selfie, maybe try posting it on WAYWT instead?

>>18121250
>I sprayed it on and my girlfriend died.
kek
>Together these categories comprise 99% of reviewers on fragrantica
you forgot the one smaller part that "is into fragrances" but has no idea about anything yet they act like the ultimate authority on everything fragrance

>>18121252
why don't you show us your bottle of bvlgari aqva sar?

Rate my recent summer + chypre sample purchases:

For myself
>31 Rue Cambon
>Pour Monsieur
>Chypre Palatin
>Antaeus
>Hacivat
>Mousse Illuminee
>Chypre-Siam
>Maai
>Mitsouko
>Dryad
>Bon Monsieur
>Virgin Island Water
>Hundred Silent Ways
>Le Beau Le Parfum
>Reflection Man
>Aventus
>Beach Hut Man
>Green Irish Tweed
>Elysium
>Vetiver Parfum
>Another 13
>You or Someone Like You
>Molecule 01
>Ganymede
>Gypsy Water
>B'al d'Afrique
>Philosykos EDP
>Week-end in Normandy

For the GF
>BohemiaRate my recent summer + chypre sample purchases:

For myself
>31 Rue Cambon
>Pour Monsieur
>Chypre Palatin
>Antaeus
>Hacivat
>Mousse Illuminee
>Chypre-Siam
>Maai
>Mitsouko
>Dryad
>Bon Monsieur
>Virgin Island Water
>Hundred Silent Ways
>Le Beau Le Parfum
>Reflection Man
>Aventus
>Beach Hut Man
>Green Irish Tweed
>Elysium
>Vetiver Parfum
>Another 13
>You or Someone Like You
>Molecule 01
>Ganymede
>Gypsy Water
>B'al d'Afrique
>Philosykos EDP
>Week-end in Normandy

>>18120764
>I prefer Mousse Illuminee, but a respectable choice.
That's the only Rogue fragrance I really like, tbqh. What are your favorites?

>>18121262
i don’t wear indian perfumes sorry, i’m sure you’re very proud of whatever passes for high luxury in calcutta though.
>>18121273
bordering on total random nonsense.

>>18121296
if you’re going to post selfies in the wrong thread, why not post higher resolution ones so we can figure out what caste you’re from?

>>18121297
you tell me since it's your picture

>>18121298
you tell me since it’s your picture

>>18121250
don't forget they all write fragrance reviews like they slammed their dick into a thesaurus. Just the most bullshit you've ever heard outside of "wine experts"

>>18121298
is this the indian guy spamming porn on all boards

>>18121316
could be, he's retarded enough to do that

>>18121316
hopefully his spam outside of /fa/ bucks his trend of spamming selfies in these threads, no one wants to see his brown ass naked.

What are some good unisex/masculine florals? Something with oud especially would be good, I love the oud + floral combination

Does anon like to wear castoreum? What do you use?

I just tried Tom Ford Tobacco Oud Intense and found out I liked castoreum a lot. I am thinking of trying Amouage Silver Oud and Oud Ulya next.

>>18121378
I do
one man show, yatagan
not tomford slop

>>18121378
i do
i wear castoreum tincture

>>18121391

Where do you get the tincture and how do you use it?

>>18120761
TF Tuscan Leather IMO has the perfect balance between synthetic agents (the ones that give leather its smell) and animalic/barn. Memo shit like Russian/Irish leather come close but dont hit like Tuscan Leather. In contrast, scents like Rosendo Mateu 5 smell like plastic toys or something.
I can only talk to you about my personal experience doe, I must say I am quite limited since I started this hobby last autumn.

torn between Terre d'Hermes or Vetiver Parfum for summer

>>18121480
I may be bad with money but I'm not that bad

>>18121491
>Aventus
>Bon Monsieur
>Beau de Jour/Lomond
All you need.

>>18121496
>shit
>drakkar noir but more expensive
>zino but more expensive and worse
roflmao

>>18118463
Yes but thats a good thing
>>18119447
it's aleardy in every fragrance since it was created
>>18120609
ok I'll bite,
vintage Fahrenheit Aftershave
Aventus
Bleu edp
and whatever Killian you got in that travel bottle (unless its more Angels Share). Rest of it is not my taste.
>>18120706
You think that's a good thing?
>>18120817
It's good and nostalgic, if you like gourmand, this is the one. I got rid of mine, because it turns out, I dont like gourmand that much.
>>18121006
As much as it's a meme, drakkar noir
>>18121273
you rate it

>>18121540
Is there a decent Arab version of this?

>>18121541
Alexandria Frangrance's "Hawaii Volcano" is pretty good. It's heavier on the lime and a weaker coconut drydown (which some people actually prefer)

>>18121540
It's exceptional. Too bad about the performance.

>>18121378
>hey bro I heard you like castoreum, so we put some castoreum on your castoreum and them topped it off with some beaver tail oil
this stuff has the most castoreum I've ever smelled in anything, sold out on the areej site but I think sealed essence still has some in stock

I don’t even shower and my girlfriend says she likes my body odour wtf is wrong women

>>18121592
>women need to stop liking me, i want to be a gay incel!
just another day on /frag/.

>>18121378
Yes. Serge Lutens Veilleur de Nuit, the chocolate beaver.

>>18121378
Boston Tea Party, 1773 by Chronicles - Scents of History

What venue consistently has the dumbest takes on fragrance that you've ever experienced?

HARD MODE: you can't say /frag/ or /perf/

>>18121692
fragrantica wtih ytfragranceshit in close second

>>18121692
i have never seen a good opinion on perfume on instagram, ever.

>>18121592
Pheromones, buy Aventus the creamy mossy drydown imitates that

>he owns perfume that lasts less than 8 hours
Explain yourself
Now

>>18121720
>>18121722
I made the mistake of engaging with fragrance content on instagram and now my entire feed is filled with zoomer who are obsessed with JPG. Literally every post is about JPG

>>18121730
I don't walk around naked all day so I have plenty of places to store a decant to refresh halfway through the day.

>>18121692
/r/cologne. No one with an IQ above room temperature is allowed to post. Never try to interact, only observe. It is fascinating to say the least.

>>18121731
is anyone surprised that zoomers are all huge faggots

>>18121752
like saying that hepatitis is preferable to AIDS

>>18121752
Anything similar to Aventus from Floris?

if creed fans actually cared about artistry and heritage in perfumes, they’d buy thé brun by brosseau instead of the subpar crap that is silver mountain water and millesime imperiale.

>>18121755
Not any straight up clones, but they're big on Chypres and fougeres. A lot of their fragrances have that kind of woody/smoky/citrus vibe.

>if creed fans cared about artistry and heritage in perfumes, they'd buy this Pierre Bourdon fragrance instead of this other Pierre Bourdon fragrance. You know, for the heritage thing
What did the stinky twinky mean by this?

>>18121764
>if creed fans actually cared about artistry and heritage, they’d buy an actual finished end product instead of unfinished brief rejects and mods upsold for 10x the price, with a compositional lineage dating back to the dihydro in cool water, the hedione in eau sauvage and the calone in ocean rain and diorella
ftfy, historically illiterate florida schizo

Just got a F batch of Aventus and I’m not really into it, it’s my first Creed so is there like a warmup period to it of wearing it where you can appreciate it?

I’m retarded btw

thank you frag thanks to you i got into colognes and i smell nice at last

>>18121752
Floris is every Creed wants to be

>>18121838
Gets stronger after about a week

> Ted Lapidus Pour Homme (1987) ~$17
> Halston Z-14 (1974) ~$15
> Jacques Bogart Pour Homme (2004) ~$18
> Hugo Boss Number One (1985) ~$29

Can anyone tell me about these cheap fragrances in their current formulation? Got the itch to blind buy something

Wore Givenchy Gentleman to a wedding today. Fuck haters, get civet.

How does current Dior Fahrenheit compare to older formulations? And are the flankers worth it? <br>The current formulation isn't as 'gasoline' as I thought it may be. And the dry down is pretty soft with some florals and leather - like a used leather jacket. Smells great

>>18121867
That gasoline note was always kind of short lived in my opinion, although I don't have experience with the ORIGINAL original formulation. I had a bottle from the late aughts. Used to be a bit kickier, but it always dried down to a nice floral leather scent. I've never bought the flankers

>>18121867
I don’t like Fahrenheit Le Parfum very much. It smells nothing like Fahrenheit at all. They really clipped its balls. It is another modern spicy vanilla. That niche is already very occupied by superior designer frags on the current market such as Prada Luna Rossa Black. Not my favorite genre of scent in the first place, but I will be the first to tell you there are better options there over Fahrenheit Le Parfum.

If you’re going to get a Fahrenheit just quit beating around the bush and get the original. Personally I think current formulations are pretty likable. I wasn’t around in the 80’s or early 90’s so I have no real basis for comparison. It smells like fresh green ozonic gasoline to me. Performance is fine for me in current formulation, too.

As far as the other flankers? I don’t know. I have only beard bad things.

>>18121378
Yatagan is the best. Why wear anything else from October to December?

>noooo don’t buy a fougere from the 80’s buy this overpriced $250 tom ford fougere reinterpretation that is so retro chic
put a bullet in your skull

got some etat libre d'orange samples
I like ghost in the shell, remarkable people and fat electrician. Sadly only fat elec lasts on my skin.
I also got "you or someone like you" its not bad, but I already got h24 herbes vives. theyre a lil bit similar so I dont really need another green scent

>>18121867
the original was much more long lasting, gasoline was less noticable and better controlled. i was a bit mroe unique

>>18121882
Yeah the whole house is just constant disappointments… I’ve tried most of them. It is a lesson a lot of people learn early on. “Baby’s first niche” - the brand.

>It's a zoomers think "tobacco" scents smell like cigarette smoke episode

>>18121891
They do though. I once sprayed on Dolce & Gabbana the One and my mom grounded me because I smelled like an ash tray

>>18121891
It's pretty crazy how well anti-smoking campaigns worked in the US. There is an entire generation that is so unfamiliar with smoking as a concept that they don't even recognize what cigarette smoke smells like. They've smelled it a handful of times in passing, and that's pretty much it. If you you had an article of clothing caked in cigarette smoke and another that smelled like a some kind of rare incense only found in Tibet or something, there would be a 50% chance of them correctly identifying which is which

Just blind bought Lalique Encre Noire as it was only £16 for 50ml and sounds kinda whacky

>>18121896
I didn't know they made a 50 ml. That's one of those fragrances that is so inexpensive that there's really no good reason not to blind buy it. You have to really like vetiver to jibe with it, but if you do it's great. Probably the best fragrance you can get for the money.

>>18121904
I save lavender and vetiver. Real oakmoss is already banned by ifra and we can just replace patchouli with cannabis and chocolate

>>18118361
I dabble in perfumery and honestly it isn't a very noticable smell and I barely smell it, but my nose is probably fried from smelling so many different scents

>>18121874
rather smell like gasoline than picrel


Anonymous

Are we reaching a saturation point with silver necklace chains? I just started wearing them this year, but its seems that every guy now rocks them and I don't want to come off like a follower. Especially now with Zuck wearing them all the time, normies are going to start wearing them in droves.

Also, why do I think this way?

>Are we reaching a saturation point with silver necklace chains? I just started wearing them this year, but its seems that every guy now rocks them and I don't want to come off like a follower.

I've pretty much moved everything I wear to gold tone.

Gold belt buckle, gold watch, gold money clip, gold Dupont lighter.

And if it's not gold I go with 2 tone, like a gold and silver pen or cufflink.

>>18118614
Breddy gud for vampire protection tho desu

>>18118614
Wearing them outside your shirt like that has always been terrible, otherwise it's a classic accessory that never goes out of style.
Under certain circumstances (e.g. new years party or a gala event) it can be ok to wear them outside for trashy-maxxing when you're dressed smart.
If your fit looks in any way "hip hop" you should neck yourself and hopefully the chain is strong enough to support your bodyweight.

>>18121051
This is a 100% correct post. You should wear one, and it should be under your shirt. Cheap, thin ones are cringe, but a solid chain that is more than 2mm thick and about 20-22in long should look good. Don't go too big, we don't want to look like rappers. White gold is my personal favorite, but silver is much cheaper.

>>18121102
It's that simple, upper limit on thickness should be about 6mm and 20-22in is just right, adjust accordingly for your height and build.
picrel is a good example of thickness and length, and Jakey's brushing up against the limits of sleaze without quite stepping over it, the occasion calls for it.

>>18118652
>gold Dupont lighter
Uh oh! Stinky!

>>18118614
>chains
>saturation point
anon, you're talking like it's 2004. Chains are way less prevalent than they used to be.


Just buy whatever's popular

For me, the point of fashion is to attract other people. Girls for sex, people at work to think highly of you, and so on. Logically, this means you should just buy whatever the highest % of people will like. That is what I've been doing for years and it works.

>>18118640
for me it's to emulate the appearance of a movie character Iiked

>>18118640
i could tell there would be creamy poopoo peanutbutter brown skin the second i saw the polo logo

>>18118660
Like what character? I think that is a bad idea, because the clothing might look good on them because you know the context of the movie, but you might just look like an autistic retard, depending on the outfit.

>>18118640
I just go into a store with young girls working there and buy whatever outfit they put on the mannequin unless it was obviously a joke or is completely hideous.

>>18118640
idk, if you want to fashion you just really need to wear whatever Pat Riley did when he coached, it's really that easy.

>>18118640
gooses are so fucking gay bro

>>18118694
>Like what character?
I always try to dress like a background character in an 80's movie. Tucked in shirt, high rise jeans and cowboy boots

I can't be openly racist and homophobic at work anymore so I just wear racist executives would have worn in the 50s and 60s as consolation. It works for me.

>>18119972
for your tastes and desires there are two sneakers in this silhouette that come to mind
>gats, margiela or otherwise
>common projects (more dated but still good)

>>18118640
>In both professional and nonprofessional settings, individuals often make a significant effort to learn and adhere to dress codes, etiquette, and other written and unwritten standards of behavior. Conformity to such rules and social norms is driven by a desire to gain social acceptance and status (see Cialdini and Goldstein 2004) and avoid negative sanctions such as social disapproval, ridicule, and exclusion (Kruglanski and Webster 1991; Levine 1989; Miller and Anderson 1979; Schachter 1951). In the present research, we propose that under certain conditions, nonconforming behaviors can be more beneficial than efforts to conform and can signal higher status and competence to others. We argue that while unintentional violations of normative codes and etiquette can indeed result in negative inferences and attributions, when the deviant behavior appears to be deliberate, it can lead to higher rather than lower status and competence inferences.

>>18119332
What if I'm too autistic to NOT be able to tell whether the mannequin fit is sarcastic or hideous

>>18120134
Sure, high status guys can get away with acting/dressing like spergs, but nobody's reaction to seeing a guy on the street acting/dressing like a sperg is "oh wow that guy must be high status!"
"Under certain conditions" is doing a lot of fucking work there
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zq_<wbr>LakJTsIE&ab_channel=r8448

If your goal is just to attract the most women and impress people at the office then you should 100% be trying to do what everyone else does, but better.

>>18118643
the purpose of this board as a whole is to discuss fashion as an interest and an art form, not to looksmax

>>18118640
buy what looks good on you. don't try to be something you're not but rather be the best looking you that you can be

>>18120134
This is true and what females refer to as "big dick energy", if you've never experienced women gasping at the size of your cock you'll never be able to pull it off, being a conformie is the best choice for the majority.


I don't think anyone has ever pulled off the casual look better than Epstein. If it weren't for a couple of minor things he would be a fashion icon.

He would look good on the athleisure template

>>18118711
>thick hairy forearms
>sharp facial features
>handsome smile
zaddy can get it

>>18118711
>If it weren't for a couple of minor things
>minor things

fuck I hope you did this on purpose


How do I become a runway model?

I'm 19m neet residing in Berlin & willing to do anything.
Currently 80,5 kg, 11-12 bf.
I won't send any fotos but trust me I'm handsome.

>>18118587
How tall are you? Start practicing your walk, and posing. Make friends with one or two beginner photographers looking for practice, put the best shots on your instagram or into your portfolio. Get in contact with an agent. Look for small jobs in your city, people with small clothing brands looking for models for their look books, websites, or local fashion shows.

>>18118609 Im 188cm|6'2ft. Does it worth it to go to the modeling school?

>>18118587
>& willing to do anything
faggot

>>18118647
youre 20 pounds overweight. but you become a runway model by going to a modeling agency and getting singed by them

>>18118587
you need to go to gay bars and get picked up by a recruiter, fuck him, fuck the assistant's assistant, fuck the assistant, and then finally you can fuck a guy who can put you in touch with another guy you have to fuck to get on the runway. All the guys you need to fuck are males. Enjoy your new career.

>>18119716
Do I fuck them or do they fuck me


Redpill me on socks, I need about 30 pairs, all black, minimal fiber shedding. How much money will be stolen from me for a decent quality stack? Any (euro) brand suggestions?

Depends what you want. Good quality merino wool socks cost a bit more

>>18119541
idk I just want socks that aren't garbage that falls apart after a few times in the machine. Got a few bamboo ones, going to test them.

>>18120752
Learn basic English before posting pajeet

>>18120766
Learn punctuation, fashion victim.

Look into Darn Tough socks. Any thickness/thinness you want. Merino wool made. Lifetime warranty if you somehow manage to fuck one up. Shit, I lost one while on a hiking trip and they gave me a free replacement pair, as long as I provided proof of a cut up single sock. Just to keep people from abusing the system.

Can’t recommend enough. I thought my feed would get super hot in thin wool socks but they breath great. And in the winter, my feet are always super warm. Around the house, it’s so nice having a thick sole to walk on.

>>18118789
FUCK SOCKS SIZING. 6-12??? 12-14??? HOW ABOUT MAKE A SOCK THAT ACTUALLY FITS.


do you have a specific style, anons?

i would say that a gamechanger in my confidence was to find my niche and build a wardrobe that was consistent with my personality and then stick to it. nothing like going streetwear on day and techwear on the other

i think this way people create a better defined image of you (if you fuck up you'll be 'that guy' though)

for example, since i'm a subtropical academic, I tried to build something along the lines of professor-chic/ivy-sprezz. that works inside or outside of university.

Personally, I wear mostly earth tones and more utilitarian-style clothing. I also try to only wear natural fibers. I take inspo from neo-folk, ivy legue/prep, and academic style but my style is very normie besides my coats and jackets. My shoes, shirts, jumpers, and pants are always very plain. I try not to stand out with my style and don’t wear my louder pieces unless it is a special occasion. I have slowly been trying to phase out any old streetwear or tech or gorp stuff left in my closet which I have been relatively successful with though I struggle to part with a few of them.
Instead of a personal style, I think I’d like to get 3 outfits (A formal, semi-formal and casual outfit) for each season and wear them nonstop like a cartoon character. Kinda like the steve jobs approach but less bugman.
Semi-related: Does anyone have anymore images like pic related? Also, a higher res version of pic related. No reverse image search engines gave me much to work with. (I think google lens nuked google image search on purpose.)
>>18118872
Post inspo for this subtropical academia. Sounds intriguing, and possibly disastrous if done incorrectly.

>>18118894
had to pick up some examples in my pinterest

when it is cold, things are pretty easy. knitwear and pleated pants/loafers or boots

in hot months is where your consistency is tested, usually not on work, since it is supposed that they use AC (if not, style should not be your concern). but casually there is plenty of good pieces: nice polos (wearing polos well is a developed art and requires good taste), nice shorts (preppy style) and minimalist sneakers (can be dad style or preppy sports styles)

in general, it is a mix of prep, ivy and sprezzatura with a lot of attention to fabrics also

>>18118943
amerimutt i presume since you're shit at geography

I call it “autism”. It’s important to stand like this in public as well.

>>18118961

femanon here,

literally female gaze, that is a beautiful man. Simple, cute, pale, and approachable.

>>18119285
I’m straight and I think he’s hot. Like a handsome fox


>this is now considered fashionable by zoomies

>>18118779
man my friend started djing and every time i go to a rave he's playing it's wall to wall zoomers in tripp pants and tapout shirts and i feel so deeply uncomfortable. they're winning i guess

>>18118779
Thay girls pant and shoes fit is actually fucking sick, but yet the rest of that image is horrendous and skateparks have gone from skinny jeans to parachute pants seemingly over night

>>18118779
It’s been like this for at least 5 years. It won’t end well for them. Imagine trying to transition out of this style as an aging zoomie. millenial styles lent much better to maturing and entering adulthood.

>>18119853
m8 that was a millennial style, zoomers are just biting on previous generation's drip


If you're not femininity-maxxing as a white zoomer male in 2024 what are you doing? Zoomer women are all in love with androgynous and femme men, and it's more fun anyways.

>>18118955
>got overly masculine neanderthal features
some females told me they like that tho, especially the ones with daddy issues

>Zoomer women are all in love with androgynous and femme men
this has been a well known about phoenomena for a long time.
there's even an ancient incel wiki article about it.
here's the problem:
women are only interested in casual sex with guys with more andro looks.
and your attractiveness falls off a CLIFF to them after early adulthood.
they will never marry you and you will die alone.
t. fell for this bullshit.

Then why did I start getting quite a bit more attention from girls when I grew a big bushy Tom Selleck mustache?


>>18118971
While I envy the depth of your pockets, I assume there's a lot of redundant stuff on your wardrobe.


Everyone knows I’m lurking for asian pussy when I wear these


Why is masculinity dying and femininity taking over?

>>18118875
Then how come the right is praised for their youthful looks while the left is considered old and out of style?

>>18118874
because it's pretty and women like it too nowadays
why not femboymaxx? it's more fun and you can still be straight

>>18118881
Because it’s gay as fuck and you also expire at like 22 if you decide to twink out

>>18118874
How old were you when you started balding anon?

>>18118874
This is completely retarded. The men on the left started their careers as prettyboys

>>18118874
People are staying younger for longer, hair loss is now a treatable disease, there's basically no benefit to letting DHT ravage your body anymore.

>>18118874
it's easy to make a point when you make up things nobody said. i don't think anyone is saying 60s clint eastwood and marlon brando look old or bad, because they don't. brando objectively did age like shit and though clint held on for longer he looks half-dead by now because he is. every guy on the right looks completely different from each other. ed sheeran is famously ugly, jonathan van ness is an abomination. people don't like michael cera because he's hot they like him because he feels accessible. and the kpop guy just looks good.

>>18118874
white people are just becoming elves

>>18118902
DHT is the hormone that makes you a man

>>18118874
As gender roles were breaking down, masculinity had to be redefined and reinstated. For a while, this was a good thing for corps and producers because it could be used as a marketing tactic to sell things. Quickly, it got old and board rooms wanted to market towards younger and more progressive audiences. Now Gillette and Bud light are using the reverse to try and widen their audiences by targeting women and gays (women love the gays, and have a special soft spot for trannies.) So the thing that was holding together masculinity, is working to distance itself from it. The masculine (as an energy, symbol, archetype, principle, etc.) is not dying but it is less preferable and is often put down. I think this has to do with doting mothers, mostly female school teachers, a recent uncovering of male sex abusers in positions of power/powerful institutions (religion, politics, culture, arts, academia, etc.), and fathers working more and spending less time with their children. The sexual abuse scandals have caused most people to be highly skeptical of men in leadership positions. It has also given rise to a increased fear of pedos and groomers.
We also live in an age in which flux and change (feminine) are tantamount so adaptation is held as more valuable than stability and firmness (masculine). This is an imbalance though. The pendulum is trying to swing, but instead you get e-celeb father figure stand-ins who cannot replace one’s real father or actual male mentor. They all turn out to be grifters and retards, which further hurts the symbol of the father, as they turn out to be corrupt, ersatz fathers.
Aesthetically, I don’t think the twinks on the right are always valued more than the men on the left. There is some serious cherry picking here. But Camile Paglia points out in Sexual Personae that towards the fall of classical civ warrior bodies were no longer being sculpted and instead the form of the beautiful young boy were the main subject to capture.

>>18118906
>and the kpop guy just looks good.
Are you joking or a 25 yo femcel obsessed with gooks

>>18118930
he's effeminate but has strong features. it's disingenuous to pretend he's ugly or anything, even though it's probably surgery

>>18118886
>gay as fuck
>women like it
???
>you expire at like 22
only if you're trying to look 22

>>18118909
DHT is the hormone that makes you into a bald ugly man

>>18118874
this thread is dumb but i've thought about this before and the real answer is that social media basically exists to give teenage girls and women body issues so that they will spend money on ads. so thats the kind of stuff thats popular now because social media drives trends. its obviously way more complicated than that but i dont feel like writing a whole essay about it so thats just it in a nutshell.

>>18119063
>Source needed
>Gets answer by just googling it
>NOOOO NOT THAT KIND OF SOURCE
Enjoy the uglification and being bald

>>18118874
>>18118878
Are you on drugs? I'm bloatmaxxing with visible muscles and get good results in real life and dating apps.
While feminine, skinny dudes literally are fragile and don't have a healthy self esteem. They get crushed in a gym atmosphere.

>>18119105
>in a gym atmosphere
the world is not a gym. go to a typical concert, for example, and now they mog you. it's all context

>>18119110
i'm pretty sure you don't look like the guy on the left. but my point was that alt girls of the type that go to concerts and especially diy shows have a pretty strong preference for prettyboys over gym bros. most people don't walk around evaluating people by how they think they'd do in the gym

>>18118878
This is retarded. The left are literally 40+ and the right are most 20s or around 30.

>>18119113
You are dreaming, touch grass

>>18119119
i'm touching grass and cute goth girls and i'm having a great time

do you autistic dudes not realize youthmaxxing is an op towards making you a tranny or is it you know that and that's why you like it?
people never disliked older handsome men. sure if you're a weathered old fuggo that used to be a young fuggo: you might be up shit creek.
but if you're ugly youthmaxxing probably isn't worth doing anyway.
i guarantee you do not get enough sun that you will look like a 50 year old actor from 1950.

>>18119126
not so sure about this "youthmaxxing" thing but it wasn't the jews that gave me high cheekbones and delicate features

>>18119126
It is, >>18119122 so called goth thot is literally a lesbian and have all kinds of mental illnesses.

>>18118874
Too much microplastics and estrogen in the water is turning men into literal estrogenic trannies. So modern men not only dress feminine, but are actually more feminine and low T. Modern men in their prime have testosterone levels lower than men in their 60's and 70's from the 1950's.
>>18118907
Did Tolkien know something?

>>18118874
Pretty boys have always been around. Fags that fuck women on the daily basis too. Read some books written by women from previous centuries and there are femboys everywhere. They are descrived always as a mommys boy prince with the facial gestures of a woman, their delicate hands as a silk touch but the body of a man, tall but skinny. They are almost always competing with the jock and its more of an authors taste or deus ex machina who gets to have the girl. So don't act like this is a new thing just because you just found out that twinks are one of the two epitomes of male beauty for women and if you differ is because you are a fag that preffers strong manly men, simple as that.

Pain

>>18118874
>Harrison
he grew old in a bad way. literally got replaced by CG in the last indie movie.
>Clint
he was always an ugly skinny ass.
>Brando
good when young. got fat.
>forgot name.
ok he looked good. dunno wat became of him.
>literally whos on right
where Ryan Gosling? or even Simon/Garfunkel

Anonymous

>>18118907
>becoming elves
just like me! except i am SEA monkie and ugly.

>>18119119
Nah, it's true. If you'd speak to women they'd tell you that gymbros are the most of the times the worst hookups in their lives.

The ranking is sorta like
Chads/Prettyboys
Cool rich ppl
Friends of the chads/prettyboys
-----------------------------------<wbr>----------- Tequila starts kicking
Regular dudes
Gymbros/fratboys
Loser to creepy type men

Some chads are gymbros but they are rarely hang out with a group of gymbros.

>>18118874
An older black lady told me I looked like Ed Sheeran the other day. I almost let it ruin my day but I coped with the thought that all white people probably look the same to blacks.

>>18118917
smartest /fa/ poster… unfortunately, I feel like you are an ugly incel and got lost based on your writing style… back to /his/ with you

>>18118878
You need to spend less time online you literally believe Hollywood and the internet are real life

>>18119603
>replaced by CG in Indy movie
Well he’s also like fucking 80 years old what do you expect

>>18118874
Because I decided that I should be the only man, and everyone else, my females.

>>18118874
OP here, sorry for being a stupid flaming faggot I meant to post this on /r9k/

Birth control, media pushed social norms

>>18118878
imagine spending any time at all thinking about femcels

>>18119113
This is from my observations as a schizo
I feel like Alt girls hate prettyboys and gym bros tho
Alt girls go for mid guys, guys that fulfill their niche fetish, other girls, druggies and older guys
Normie girls usually like prettyboys and gym bros

>>18121059
Alt girls also include e girls too

>>18118902
bro... just shave it... you're living in a fantasy world

>>18119107
I only go to concerts of good artists so the average age is 40 and the most common hair color is bald

>>18118874
femininity is fun and youthful, masculinity is boring and old. young guys are looking at how much fun and variety and creativity going on in women's fashion and deciding to get in on that instead of caring that old men think less of them.
masculinity "dying" is a symptom of your opinion being less valuable to the young.

>>18118878
Who the fuck wouldn't want to bang prime Clint Eastwood or Harrison Ford?

>>18121317
>thinks he's special for listening to modest mouse or some shit

>>18118957
>>18118972
>>18118998
>>18119063
>>18119101
I think bullshit was called on DHT turning you ugly, not on dht turning you not bald. The link between DHT and baldness is undisputed at this point. Unless you're simply defining ugliness as being bald then I guess your point stands.

>>18119113
>people who can't compete don't think about competing
ftfy

>>18122617
I have read gay porn that was less gay than your statement. Unless you plan on deleting yourself at 25 then you will age too. Why waste your efforts pursuing some that will not, can not last (youth)? You think those old men you refer to just recently materialized out of thin air? They were young too. You should care about their opinion, you're going to be one of them.

>>18122617
One of, if not the, gayest things i have ever read on this website

>>18118874
It's toxic femininity driven by social media.

>>18122828
>>18122967
It's easier to find a femme straight guy than a femme gay guy. Plus most gay men are pretty masculine, masculinity is gay if anything.

>>18123873
some gay men are superficially masculine or artificially masculine in a gauche way.

New concept: in modernity Instead of “masculinity” we have “maxxulinity”, e.g., societal conditions have disincentivized traditional masculinity which has been replaced by superficial approximations of the masculine via various types of maxxing. In this context it doesn’t matter if if you’re a committed gymcel or twink. Both extremes are forms of maxxulinity, neither are true masculinity. Screen cap this.

>>18118907
Good. Elves are hot
>>18119619
Gym guys are usually pretty desireable on the surface, it just so happens that the gym seems to attract aggressive insecure dudes who have nothing going on.
Artistic gym bros are always lovely.

>>18124038
*all, as homosexuality is a symptom of gender identity disorder

>>18119119
I could swear I dated the guy on the right's sister.

>>18124096
I think you might be onto something. To me a lot of young men look like caricatures of the thing they're attempting to be rather than actually being it. Like the thing they want to be is a product to be bought or a look to be imitated rather than actually being something one becomes.


how retarded would it be to get a tattoo of a postmark? i'm very autistic and a big fan of the united states postal service, and i especially like these because i live in massachusetts.

if its your only tat and you don't have some alpha tats already then its retarded

>>18118994
fresh postmark and let it fade

>>18118994
Sounds unique, I'd say go for it

>>18118994
i can imagine it looking pretty cool, ive never seen it before and its a good conversation starter if youre knowledgeable on the topic. my only concern would be whether the faded/inky look of the examples you gave would tattoo well or not. aging might make them bleed and blur in undesirable ways. but im not a tattoo artist, so ask one you trust.

>>18118994
how big and where?
i'm thinking like 3" diameter on the back of your shoulder would be dope
also fellow masshole here

>>18119909
i was imaging on the side of bicep like where rank would be in military. but yeah stamp tattoo is cool enough. if someone had one and i went "what is that" and they told me i'd go "ah neat"

>>18119916
that could work too are you going to get your hometown postmark or just a random mass location that sounds cool

>>18119917
i don't fuckin know dude im not op why are you so obsessed with massachusetts

>>18119922
lol i thought you were op my bad bro lmao

>>18119922
nta but you were talking as if you were OP so dont get weird

>>18119933
im about to start punching and kicking if you guys don't stop calling me op right now

>>18118994
Any tattoo is retarded. Seriously rethink your life if you ever consider getting one.

>>18119935
i'm literally op and you could've fooled me

>>18119933
>>18119943
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILi<wbr>K8AcoPTU
tell me something only the real OP would know!

>>18119948
fuck i meant to include >>18119935 as well
i hate when this happens

On its own it would look retarded. Something with a vintage postcard theme could work.


Is my suit OK?

New suit for a job. Tailored. I am wondering if it fits me ok? I was thinking maybe there is too much extra fabric in the back upper leg area, but I know nothing about suits.

>>18119031
...a few thing to point out also. ignore the shirt, it's an older one I no longer use. just put it on for this video. also I do not just have one color, but only showing one in the video as they are tailored to the same specs.

>>18119031
Hit the gym, you’re swimming in that

>>18119033
Yeah I should, find it hard to gain weight. Does the suit look bad? Should I get it altered more?

>>18119034
Looks fine to me. You're just a little skinny. Hit the gym and eat a slight calorie surplus.

>>18119044
How can one work out how many calories they're intaking vs burning? I guess you can just count every calorie you eat for the intake part...

Sieg

>>18119031
Don’t wear suits to job interviews

Even jobs that require suits don’t need suits

Anonymous

>>18119031
add a skinny tie and never button up the coat

>>18119031
Look at some modeling pics for suits and note their poses. I know you're not posing but you look like you don't know where to put your hands, and that'll ruin a look more than the fit

The fit is awkward mainly because the armholes are too big for you. You can tell by how the jacket appears to be trying to get as far away from your torso as possible when you start moving your arms. I also think your belt is pointless and too bulky and the shoes are not good.

Is it "OK"? Yeah, probably, but it's not /fa/.

>>18119031
you bought a suit that was the wrong size and you tried to tailor it down so it looked your size, but its obvious from the jackets sides and the crotch of the pants that it wasn't cut to look good when trimmed down

t. anon that learned the hard way you can't just take a 30 inch waist trouser and cut it down to a 28

>>18119031
Pants are little too short, and the rise is too low, which is why you get that silly looking shirt triangle above the waistband when you close the jacket.

When you button the jacket it also seems to be too tight since you get that weird looking X wrinkles around the button, which should not happen and you lapels don't roll natuarrly but fold in a pointy way.

Shoulder area is not visible here

you probably need to size up by one and then get the sleeves shortened a little.


If you're ugly, every outfit will look bad on you.

If you're attractive, basically every outfit will look good on you.

A really shitty outfit can make a hot person less hot, but a really great outfit won't make an ugly person less ugly.

>>18119035
you're still better off being ugly with a nice fit then ugly with an ugly fit

>>18119035
Nobody cares unless you're in the ninetieth percentile anyway. Dress for yourself.

you didnt put on the meme arrow, therefore you say this and look like this


Mismatching foundation shades?

Is it normal for a woman to be wearing a foundation shade that has significant difference from the color of the rest of her skin? I am an incredibly pale woman and I'm genuinely considering tanning the rest of my body darker to make my foundation shade of choice match better. I have no idea if this is an insane train of thought but I wanted to get some opinions before I go crazy with the tanning lotion. I see all these other women with rather unmatching shades and begin to wonder if I really need to be worrying about it.
>Just find a foundation shade that matches your skin color!
My skin is pale to the point of being blue because I am a NEET who only goes out at night and I have yet to find a blue foundation that is as thick as I like.

>>18119065
Blue board anon, sorry. I do it on /r9k/ but I won't here

i saw a girl the other day that must have been trying and failing at this because her skin was pale as a ghost but her face was caked in tan makeup, no transition at all, insane

>>18119073
Extremely common in the UK and Ireland.

>>18119064
It's not intentional lol. The only time it's intentional is if it's alt/goth/punk/emo/metal makeup.

>>18119064
No. Mismatched foundation isn't a good look.

>>18119172
You guys truly have the ugliest women on Earth, with makeup trends that seem designed to enhance that fact. At least in the US we have Miami to help offset the obese hordes.

>>18119064
Do NOT do this. Tanned women are UGLY AS FUCK. Pale women are ARYAN-HYPERBOREAN BEAUTY. The world needs MORE pale woman.

Schizoidberg

>>18119064
This is very tuberculosis chic

Anonymous

>>18119064
>foundation shades
Disgusting. Ignore thots.


>Takes shower
>Oils my hair
>Leave it at it is for 1-2 hours
>Wash it with water and style it using comb
Is this good hair styling routine bros because I don't wanna use shitty products to style my hair since I don't want hairfall

>>18119103
Yes. 100% coconut oil is all you need for hair. Stay away from degenerate goyslop hair products. Nobody ever needed them. And while you're at it, don't use shampoos either. Use a milk body soap. If it's good for your skin, it's good for your hair, since they're made of the same thing (keratin).

>>18119159
coco oil is comedogenic as fuck

>>18119103
Learn basic English before posting pajeet monster

>>18119159
is it ok to put this in your ass
the contents i mean

>>18120304
yes. It will stink really bad though. I had to explain to my mom why the toilet smelled like death.


>>18118985
Only new standard and narrow. Skinny is acceptable if you’re doing a diamond heist

>>18118985
depends on your typical outfit and "style canon"
i have pretty much all of these ties (save for kipper), but i tend to favour narrow and skinny on account of being a generally skinny guy and liking slim cuts and 1960s mod styling
there's no "most /fa/" anything, just whatever works for you and your style, even on an outfit-to-outfit basis

>>18118985
i like skinny and narrow. i'm a slender guy and i prefer narrow lapels so it works much better

>>18118985
2.5 inch skinny ties are the sweet spot

>>18118990
I'm not a suit guy but damn everything pops nicely here

>>18119002
>neck yourself
>get a job

how am i supposed to get a job if i'm dead from asphyxiation?

>>18118985
Depends on your overall frame and jacket lapels. The skinnier you are, the skinnier the tie. Go too wide, used car salesman. Go too skinny, early 2000s emo/alternative band frontman. Extremes, of course, are unpleasant. Just go to the second hand store and see how several sizes look on you, you will get it.

>>18119193
This is the only correct answer, it depends on your build and should match your lapel width.

As with all traditional menswear, the point is to make you and your body look good. It is mostly about proportions.

Modern Fashion and Designers kinda lost the whole point there since they mostly have no idea, so they sell you silly tight and short jacket with thin lapels.

Reminder a tie is meant to symbolize your limp dick. So if you want to appear masculine do NOT wear one.

>>18119960
>schizo on 4chan making absurd connections and social theories that do not reflect the feelings or thoughts of normal people
must be a day ending in y

>>18120000
It's common knowledge what ties are meant to represent. I'm surprised you don't already know it.

>>18120039
not to be that guy, but i'm gonna need some sources before i stop believing that you just made that shit up, and even then, i will be extremely skeptical of anyone saying something so
you really think you can gaslight me into going along with your bullshit?
the tie was originally invented to go underneath a waistcoat or vest, even in its earliest forms, slightly puffed out. it only began to be worn without a waistcoat when the 1920s rolled around, but it was still often worn with tie pins and clips to puff it up.
you're just a spiritual peasant who doesn't understand why men at any point might like the idea of wearing colored and patterned fabric independent of any whole garment but rather meant to accent it. You're a demoralized asocial degenerate who comes up with mental gymnastics to drag down anyone who would dare not think like you


Japanese designers asking 350 dollars after putting mickey mouse on a cotton tee:

>anon thinks of buying a mickey mouse shirt

>>18119182
you're new to this fashion thing so you dont remember when you could get these for scraps. go back to making tiktoks kiddo.

>>18120179
>>18120185
Not my point
Westerners like Balenciaga and the like get tons of shit for every stupid thing they release, meanwhile Japanese designers can sell pic related for 300-500 dollars and everyone still sucks their cock


building a new wardrobe from scrap, don't really know much about fashion so idk where to start. My friends are into streetwear which I don't like so I don't ask them for advice, it's just overpriced oversized tees imo. I usually wear jeans and tees. I also like wearing polo shirts. I'm 22 but I look older so a youthful style won't look good anyway. I do have a friend who introduced me to this old money style which I think also looks good.

Any tips how to start?

>>18119251
order a bunch of stuff and return what isn't fit. just need a lot of money to start

>>18119251
Left looks like garbage, right is fine but a little meh. Seriously just avoid any meme clothes or woke bullcrap

>>18119251
>building a new wardrobe from scrap
You don't need to build a new wardrobe. You need to iron your clothes and start using fabric rinse and fabric softner

>>18119251
>I'm 22 but I look older
Damn you got the short end of the stick kek.

Don't buy a whole wardrobe in one go. Get some good quality basics that fit right, and start trying on stuff in shops/thrifts. Learn how stuff should fit, try stuff that you may like, see if it looks good on you. Look at people you think are well dressed and try to understand how/why that is so. The key is to develop personal taste, no use wasting a ton of money in one go only to find out it doesn't really fit you/you don't actually like it.


impressing young nurses (HARD MODE)

i'll work as a male nurse in a hospital for a month and there are young nurses that looked like they never had a man working with them before.
how can i improve my chances at impressing them? everyone wears a uniform and fragrances are banned, is the best i can do just working on my haircut, skin and physique?
or is there some secret alpha

Train your forearms a lot and get BF% low enough for the veins to bulge out, nurses are fucking weird and love a man's forearm veins.

>>18119265
i've also heard this somewhere, thanks for reminding me cuz i wouldn't have remembered

>>18119261
Try to appear smart/cultured but simultaneously caring and helpful.
If they work as nurses the only men they are around in their private time are likely to be low income idiots and the only men they are around at work are smug ass doctors.

>>18119301
thank you, you're def right. legit advice

>>18119261
Do you have to wear hospital provided scrubs or can you wear your own within hospital guidelines? If it's the latter wear Figs brand scrubs. Every nurse I know goes crazy for them.

>>18119261
we assume all male nurses are gay and the ones that arent give us the ick
>t. young nurse

>>18119374
i was instructed to bring my own scrubs but they need to be plain white. from what i can see on the Figs website, they offer a lot of colors but not white (apart from memes like picrel)
are they just fixated on the brand or should i bother looking for similar styles from other manufacturers?
>>18119380
(you)

>>18119386
From what I understand figs is like the Lululemon of scrubs. Not sure what other similar brands are. I think it’s less about the look and more about showing that you care more to spend more money on higher quality scrubs.

>>18119261
>i'll work as a male nurse
How much money did that cost for your degree and how many years?

Real advice: never get into a relationship with a co-worker. When it fails it'll be extremely awkward for you both and one of you will have to leave.

>>18119261
theyre all maxvaxxed. you probably are too since you work in healthcare, so i guess it doesnt matter

>>18119719
oh, thanks for clarifying
>>18119978
I'm European, I study for free. I study medicine, I'll only be a nurse over summer
>>18119991
this is a limited time internship
>>18119993
(you)

>>18120160
>europoors can't pay for education

>>18119265
this is women in general, get lean and stay hydrated

>>18120184
i have heard the veins really do it for nurses because it gives them a feeling of euphoria when they need to draw blood or IV access and the patient has nicely defined veins so it's easy for them.
so thanks to the job their brain got programmed to feel euphoria when they see nicely accessible veins.
or that's the hypothesis anyway

behave like the top guy, dont behave like the bottom guy

hope that helps

>>18119261
don't be fat. get in shape. if you show them something on the monitor at work and they stripper lean back into your shoulder to laugh at something that wasn't funny then you're on the right track

>>18119294
You won't. You'll be a noctor at best. You can tell a lot about a person based on their syntax, grammar and stylometry and it's painfully obvious you have an average IQ at best. If you become a physician, you'll be a liability and create poor outcomes for the patient and only really did it to get laid not because you're interested in the material. Fortunately, that's not going to happen. You'll probably wind up with some blown out nursoid in the next few months, smoke weed with her and then not even amount to noctor status as your motivation wanes from waging, fucking, and weeding.

>>18120816
when they lean back into your shoulder so that their head is practically parallel to yours. like if you stepped away they might fall backwards or if you craned your neck forward a bit you might kiss them like a vampire

Here’s some advice: don’t date nurses. Keep them around and friendzone them, let them want to date you, but don’t date them. Don’t even have sex with them.

>>18120913
any particular reason? what's wrong with dating or having sex with nurses?

years ago i was having really bad vertigo attacks and ended up going to the emergency room during the worst one, while checking whatever they were checking a nurse reached into my pants and held my penis. is that normal?

>>18119265

This, cannot recommend this enough. When I was a young RT, I had a summer where I spent my days doing nothing but lifting weights, watching Zyzz videos, browsing /fit/, swimming and getting sun. With my blue scrubs, my tanned arms really popped. My wife, now a nurse prac, was a nurse then would joke “God, your arms are like nurse porn.” Ten years later, she will still be holding my hand and I’ll slowly feel her running a finger over my vein, lol. They’re like vampires.

Work on your arms, get fashionable shoes, rock a little stubble or a neat beard and work on your hair. That’s literally it.

Also, be careful dude. Don’t get too many hookups at your workplace. I had dated two nursing students when I was in college. I thought I’d never see them again. I also dated a resident doc, thinking if it didn’t work out, it would be fine because she’d likely move away. None of this happened and I had four ex’s at my workplace. Do not recommend, lol. Thankfully, only one was a messy breakup. The others were because we were all so busy with school, so it was all very amicable. Still kinda weird working with/seeing people you boned a few years prior.

Finally, nurses seem to like anyone but other nurses. I noticed a significant amount of attention when I got my paramedic license and joined a helicopter flight team. I ignore it all though, my wife’s attention is what satisfies me.

But the single dudes on my team sure get some! I had a buddy who had an RN drive three hours to fuck him all weekend lol. Wild.

Just my advice!

>>18121528

three* nursing students and a resident, math is hard

Also, when you begin working on a new unit — be very mindful that these women have already combed over your entire social media. Even the married ones. I had a nurse once tell me two years later after working a NICU, “Yeah, I was asking you all of those questions to figure out which single nurse we could pimp you out to! We were so disappointed when we found out you were engaged!”

IMO, the smartest way is to not to pursue nurses but to have them help you open up social avenues to date their friends. Hot girls tend to have hot friends. And most girls absolutely love playing matchmaker. Remember that.

>>18121528
>>18121532
Dude coming in with the experience

>>18119261
I’m dating a female nurse and she is exactly what I expected a stereotypical female nurse to be, mind you I am an ex police officer so that also makes sense.

>>18121230
>whats wrong with having sex with nurses
Nothing, assuming you married one first. Otherwise it is morally wrong.

>>18121528
>>18121532
>>18121544
not sure if chatgpt but thanks i guess

Dating a nurse would be disgusting. They're around sickness and disease all day and are bringing all that bacteria home with them. Not to mention they've had their arms covered in piss and shit all day from changing old guys' bed pans and you want to fuck them?

>>18121665
You shit, piss and wipe your own ass why should anyone fuck you.

>>18121665
way to out yourself as a pajeet.
here in civilized countries we use personal protective equipment. i have no problem dating a nurse because they are trained and regularly audited in hygiene

>>18121705
Yeah a micro-millimeter rubber glove is really a great barrier against disease.

>>18119261
dont do that your son will have autism

>>18120160
> this is a limited time internship
Ok. And?

>>18119261
I also worked in health care and met gf working in health care.

"mens" scrubs are impossible to find decent fitting ones but if you can find some I guess that's a plus. I am 6'3 and was 170lbs at the time wearing unisex large and the fucking shirt was too small and waste of my pants was built for a whale of a human.

Really my best advice would be just appearing clean, respectful and not be too pushy about singling someone out because you want to fuck. I'm sure as you know women in health care love to fucking gossip about anything even if it isn't true and you don't wanna be THAT guy.

What worked for me I guess was just bringing up common interests and shit small talk like that when I was working and then you can ask if they have any plans on their days off or whatever. I'm not even great at talking but it worked for me somehow.

>>18123381
(you)
>>18123382
i meant to say that i wouldnt worry about a "workplace relationship" because i won't stay there for long. i thought this logic wouldnt be so hard to figure out for you
>>18123414
im going shopping for scrubs tomorrow, will see what the fit situation is like.
of course being pushy is not a good idea but i think occasionally throwing a little spark at an opportune moment that would get stuck in somebody's mind, letalone that would be gossipped, cant be bad, can it?
i dont see how people talking about me would be bad if its something tastefully playful, not them thinking im a weirdo. and i think i can avoid that irl, however weird i might seem over text.

>>18123495
Yeah of course throwing a little hint in maybe. Before I met my gf there was a guy already working there everyone thought was a creep and asked people to come over relentlessly. I got on terms of talking to my gf because we just had each other on facebook and I said something like "that was a rough night for me thanks for making the shift a little easier" and then we started talking about work, what we do on our days off and stuff then we went out on a date. We worked nights together also so there was lots of down time to just sit around and chat so I don't know your situation.

Either way if you go out on a date just go with no expectations other than doing something fun. They're smart and they'll pick up on what you're trying to get out of it.

>>18123526
yes, that makes a lot of sense. the guy you described is obv way too creepy, but finding a way to cross or occupy a space in somebody's mind is essential, nothing worse than being invisible.
interesting point with night shifts, idk if i will be able to do those but that could be interesting with the right person.
agree with the last paragraph, im obviously not owed anything and im not entering the workplace with the goal of walking away with a girlfriend but there's just loads of potential fun because its a new clinic and most of the nurses are young <30yo

>>18123414
>women in health care love to fucking gossip about anything even if it isn't true and you don't wanna be THAT guy.
All women in a workplace are like this, and no matter what you do you will be THAT guy
>Did you hear? Anon has a cat...
>I didn't know he was gay!

It doesn't matter.

>>18121651
arms are literally a universal thing, bit of chest (not too much) shoulders, small waist, low bf% and good solid arms and forearms are what all women and even the lesbians like


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>>18119275
how do you wear two pair of pants at once?

>>18119275
You are not the hero effay wants, but you are the hero effay needs.

>>18119298
Smart man here.
You are quite a noticer, there is indeed two bottoms on this pic.

>>18119298
By layering. The same way you can wear two shirts or jackets at once.

>>18119585
But wearing two pants at once is uncomfortable and weird.

>>18119275
There is absolutely nothing wrong with wearing a ball cap. Everything else in that pic though, yes.

>>18119275
never listen to any "don't wear x wear y" advice its always bad advice. you can already intuitively tell what you like to wear together


>>18119152
pics on the left make my brain go cross-eyed.
i can see that is an aesthetic of that time but also it seems like it's just normal as well. but not like how normcore is normal.

>>18119168
Nothing gets white incels more angry than an emo girl changes sides. Based Avril.

/fa/ was on this shit in like 2014 with full rick/techwear retardation

>>18119144
aesthetic will be dead in 2 years max

>>18119321
isn't she 50 who cares?
>>18119144
nah didn't you see in the news? all these rappers are gay and suck each others cocks. a gay jew named burberry erry created the opium look. carti probably sucked his little jewish cock in a humiliation ritual.

It looks like they're copying the berlin look

I like the opium style and chill blacks but I hate narcissistic blacks lol. You narcisssitic blacks all are zesty faggots that got butt raped by your mom's boyfriend growing up.

>>18120446
it looks like they're going to fight vampires or robots

>>18119152
> imagining avril taking bbc
holy

Why cant nigs into color theory? They can wear royal purple, golden yellow and regal blue but choose to wear the least flattering colors for their skin type.

>>18119152
Literally AI generated. You don't actually believe that's real, right? At any rate it's just boring lazy fashion


Do you ever buy used clothes?

I don’t because one time I shat myself in a brand new pair of Diors and just couldn’t bear the shame of seeing them so I washed them and sold @ half price.

>>18119357
I go thrifting for fun but 99.9% of mens clothes at thrift stores are shit.

>>18119357
every now and then. I got a woolrich jacket for cheap, some very comfy and decent looking suede shoes for $12, a drake's 100% wool flannel for $40, and a nice oscar de la renta jacket for $15.

Gotta wade through a lot of bullshit though.

>>18119357
No, because I'm not pathetic enough to wear used clothes of complete strangers like a beggar. Your family and maybe friends are the only people whose used clothes you should wear. And even that should be avoided as much as possible. Tell them to wear their clothes until they fall apart. If you can't afford a piece of clothing, then save up enough to buy one for yourself, or live within your means and get something you can afford. Have some self-respect and dignity.
>b-b-but what if it was discontinued???
Then it wasn't meant for you. Move on.

>>18119357
Most men's clothes are either worn to shit or for fat people. I still do it because it gives you opportunities to find interesting things that you can't buy new.

>>18119357
I get all my clothes second hand, mostly only eBay. I prefer unique pieces for very cheap rather than overpriced mass produced garments I know thousands of other people also have.

I make all my clothes from fabric I collect and when they wear out I deconstruct them and reuse them for something else


Are cravats effay?
I like that you don't have to close your collar or top button.
Where do you buy your cravats at?
Mutts call 'em "ascots" lmao.

>>18119423
do you want to look like the world's biggest fag?

>>18119423
They're for old people to hide a saggy neck.

>>18119423
They can work, but I think it is insanely hard to pull them off. I mean, even a blazer with a simple pocket square is considered "overdressed" in many cases for plastic wearing normalfags. Show up in something exotic like a cravat and you will either look like a complete autist or a trust fund kid.

Have seen them only twice irl in the past years, One guy was wearing it when visiting a theatre and the other was a ~90 year old who was running an antiques stores.

BROSTANGUS THE FASHMANGUS

>>18119423
i wore one once when i was like 20 and some hippy told me it looked "phat"


Anonymous

thoughts on military surplus belts? tempting how they're genuine leather and under 10 euros but i'm afraid of looking like a clown with a giant goofy belt<br>also thoughts on milsurp in general? i'm thinking about buying vintage eastern bloc coats and jackets 'cus they look fashionable

>>18119424
How would you wear something like that as part of a civilian outfit?

>>18119424
milsurp is gonna be the next big clothing trend, and it already kind of is.

>>18119424
The local cholos sport these like its still the 90s

>>18119984
kinda mid
the belt and the lining is weird

>>18119424
Heres my advice as an autist with atleast half a dozen milsurp belts laying around
Waist belts are already hard to style around if you aren't an attractive woman, and adding the military aesthetic does you no favors. Best you could do IMO is getting one meant to be worn at the hips and allowing it to just be a small part of the outfit rather than the centerpiece
Also the leather on the belt is most likely going to be in pretty rough shape if you decide to buy it, genuine leather doesn't tend to do well stuffed in a warehouse for decades


Why do trans "people" find this hairstyle unattractive on men but women love it?

>>18119459
why would you care about a tranny's opinion?

>>18119459
Volume on top with short sides makes the wearer look taller than they are.
Tall is a desirable trait and women fall for height fraud unless someone points it out for them. A lot of guys also get this cut because it hides a receded hairline, which is something of a problem for zoomers.

>>18119524
This too. Prison gays do this to sign what they sell.

>>18119459
because short hair on the side highlights good facial structure if you have it

>>18119459
First how do you know that "trans "people" find this hairstyle unattractive" you know them or something. Second who cares about a troon's opinion they are a troon.

I fuck trans women - doubt they would dislike this

They tend to just like more traditional masculinity desu

>>18119658
hahah this guy fucks dudes. FAGGOT

>>18119459
Bro why would you give a shit what troons think about anything? Literally all they do all day is rummage around for shit one social media to be offended about until they eventually ACK.

>>18119459
huh? I have been trans a long time and never heard an opinion on this hair good or bad. It is the pretty generic hair everyone has in my country at least. maybe theres some trans person online who says it looks like the hitler youth haircut who went viral? I wouldn't know but it's all I can think of

>>18119459
Shaved sides and poofy hair seems low class imo


Hair Advice

I need some hair tips guys. Everyone says I look lame as fuck and can do so much more with "the locks". What can I do? I'm not trying to grow it long I just don't want to be a loser.

>>18119488
ditch the glasses, fix your posture, wear a shirt with a collar and comb it into a side part my young virgin friend

Your second picture reminds me of Louis Theroux

>>18119508
>comb it into a side part my young virgin friend
most virginesque advice i've ever seen on this board, ever, at any point in time. you are fucking doomed

>>18119488
Find a photo of a celebrity (same race as you ideally) or model that has a hairstyle you like and want to replicate. Grow your hair out then show it to the barber. Do no change hairstyles constantly or you will always look like shit. Also book a good barber/hairdresser, walk in barbers are usually* shit

>>18119488
first of all lose weight. as for your hair, the cut is fine, just get some product and style it. try parting it a bit off center and pushing it back a bit. not a full-on slick back tho.