I've seen these pop up once in a while o market place, or ebay for relatively cheap.

Are they worth getting for just dicking around or more of a hassle than anything else?
I heard the lenses are shit.

>>4310744
If you have ancient deprecated thailand made f-mount glass lying around and get the adapter could be fun for a day

>>4310744
theyre aight, but i see why they died
ill poast photo whenever i get back to my pc
t. v2 user

>>4310744
it's a 1inch sensor but old and worse than an rx100. needs perfect lighting conditions to not look worse than a phone, really. Nikon also didn't really make a lot of good fast lenses for it so with the sensor size having everything be in focus it ends up looking like a modern phone. i had one back when it first came out. I honestly loved the little thing, but even though it looks small in photos, it's not really much smaller than a nex 3 that i also had at the time, despite the sensor. the lenses were smaller, sure, but they were also mediocre. they weirdly chose to aim this squarely at the snapshitter/canon elph user thinking there would be a big upgrade market, but they also did it right around when cell phone pictures started to dominate. in theory could have been a nice little system but nikon bungled it. that said, something about the 1v1 with the 10mm lens was a cool little walk around kit. and it had some at-the-time class leading features like 10fps electronic shutter capture rate and fastest mirorrless AF for the time. Would i recommend you get one today? not a J1 certainly, and a v1 only if you really like how it looks, but not for image quality or what have you. If you want small, go full meme and get a pentax q or something.

>>4310792
sample photo taken with it in challenging light. it's not great. The gf had the j1 with the kit lens, never bought any other lenses and eventually she sold it once she upgraded to an iphone 5s and just used that for everything. I had a v1 and held onto it a bit longer, and also had the 10mm and 18.5mm. traded it for an a6000 eventually.

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>>4310744
they are really bad. a phone with multiple lenses destroys it these days

>>4310793
See what you mean... when there's good light it looks pretty good. Not so much in the low light areas tho.

>>4310744
You're better off buying a Samsung

>>4310744
i have this shit collecting dust.
i hate it with every bit of my body.
Lens and sensor is actually ok-ish, but the fucking controls are abysmal. If you want to shoot anything but auto you have to go through these menus of menus of menus to get around things like holy shit. Makes photography painful. Worst nikon product i had.

>>4310744
All the cheapshit nikon point & shoots after the film era were just cheap cameras made by chinese companies that got nikon badged bc they seemed decent enough to perform in the cheapshit P&S market which is not worth Nikons time to actually build cameras for. The mid-level management who thought this what is a good idea didn’t understand that slapping ashton kutchers face on chinese junk Actually devalues the brand in public perception and has a greater cost than the three dollars per camera they were going to make on this shit.

>>4310744
If the sensor size is not APS-C and at least 24mp
For personal use: it's not worth more than $50
For reselling: Scam those zoomers and crop copers as hard as you can. Jack that price up. It'll sell eventually and then others will follow your lead.

Yes, even micro four thirds. I used to use it. Unless you are zooming in on tiny birds on a shoestring budget with garbo lenses that barely outdo a cheaper and lighter sony rx10, do not waste your time with that worthless fucking shit, save your money for another month, commit to an extra half pound, and go aps-c/full frame

If you believe this small camera will help your street photography (unsolicited creepshots of women, with a blurry hobo here and there to show the cops and run if you are questioned - dont lie, we know thats what all streetyfags do), everyone sees you have a camera no matter how big it is, you are a paranoid schizophrenic, and you should actually buy a coolpix p1000.

>>4310793
What made you both decide to go into the system?

>>4312034
Literally cause I thought the V1 looked cool and it had a viewfinder, which other mirrorless didn’t without weird add ons at the time. I don’t regret my decision.

>>4312034
>>4312043
Oh and I guess the gf got a J1 because it looked cute and I upsold her from a point and shoot saying she could use my lenses if she ever wanted to (never did)

>>4312030
I have a d60 and d7200.
I'm just curious for something that I can keep in my car or laying around the house or for like a birthday party, something that isn't my phone, I don't want to buy flagship phones anymore. And I thought a camera like the J1 would offer an alternative. I'm also more inclined to actually post or keep photos from a camera than my phone since I'm used to taking large amount of photos from my DLSRs and such.

>>4312023
The 1 series I think was made in Thailand, that was around the time Nikon started to really export production.

>>4312147
at least its not saskatchewan. this thread got me lookin up V1s on ebay, man, fuck.

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>>4312303

Yeah I guess vomit is slightly better than shit

>>4310777
>>4312017
yeah these things suck balls, better sell them to me.

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>>4310744
to actually answer your question OP, i love nikon 1 shit, people can complain about small sensor size whatever but the real killer is lens selection, Nikon made fuck all and there's almost zero third party shit and the stuff that is available is in focal lengths that don't match the awkward 2.7 crop ratio.

Save yourself the grief and either get an e-p1 for $50 and have the whole catalogue of m4/3 lenses available or get an e-m10 mk1 if you really need the viewfinder. Or a Panasonic but i don't know what models.

That being said, the 1 niggor 70-300 is really fucking good.

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Anonymous

You guys have been paying your Lightroom and photoshop subscription right?
Adobe needs somebody to pay for their skip the photoshoot marketing campaign.

Literally who thinks this stuff up?

>>4310795

probably the same people that think regional costumes are good marketing


Film General /fgt/

Kodak Colorplus Edition

Previous thread>>4309008

/fgt/ daily reminder (courtesy by anon): one stop per decade is (generally) bullshit
>negative film ages better than positive
>black and white better than color
>slow films better than fast
>storage conditions (dry/cool) matter more than years
>Negative film is shot 1 or 2 stops overexposed and then PULLED in development so that you build more density in the exposure and develop less such that the fog is limited
>slide/positive film is shot at box speed or overexposed and pulled.
>if you home develop you can also use benzotriazole as a restrainer for the the first developer in E6 process

Useful links
>[massive dev chart] gives times for home film development
https://www.digitaltruth.com/devcha<wbr>rt.php
>[film dev] shows results of development regimes
https://filmdev.org/
>[news & community links]
35mmc.com
casualphotophile.com
kosmofoto.com
emulsive.org
japancamerahunter.com

Thread Question
what kind of "consumer grade" filmstock do you enjoy the most?

>>4310960
8 pages and 41 images left to go in "previous" thread you spastic adhd dipshit

>>4310964
lmao its tradition to start a new thread the moment it hits post limit anon!

>>4305516
This place looks familiar. Albany, New Hampshire?

Is black and white the final form of photography?

>whats your favorite B&t film to shoot?

>>4310960
>what kind of "consumer grade" filmstock do you enjoy the most?

Going to say a dark horse here, gold 200. It’s great for color shooting. I don’t shoot any cheap b&w as I fucking hate foma with a passion and don’t see the point in tri-x not being the default cheap b&w

>>4310960
I like the fuji 400h that you used to get at pharmacys at shit.
Any of yall shot the new harman film?

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Testing strobes with wetplate because it is perpetually windy here. This took 3 full power bursts from two novatron 1000 strobes about 1 foot from the subject.

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I'm moving back to HI!

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Got a couple rolls back, these few are from lomo metropolis

Last one for today. Put a mirror behind for fun. I took a closer picture and you can sorta tell just how finely detailed these are. Just amazing!

>>4311064
Aw shucks!

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>>4311068
>>4311070
>>4311071
>>4311072
>>4311073
Hey wow, youve really utilized the look of the film well here. Love these.

>>4311075
Yo thanks thats a solid boost of confidence. /p/ seems hard to please, but I do feel pretty good about how these turned out.

>>4310960
What film should I use for a portrait session outdoors in the evening hours?

>inb4 portra

>>4310960
>what kind of "consumer grade" filmstock do you enjoy the most?
What does that even mean? I just use Vision3 repacks since they are the cheapest and I like how they look better than Ultramax. B/W I like Delta 3200.

>>4311068
Never considered using Lomo films before, I thought they were a meme, but these are great. What exactly is Lomo Metropolis btw? Repacked Kodak with a tint applied somehow?

>>4311098
Thanks my dude. I thought these had some feel to em. I'd give lomo a shot if you are bored or just want a off normal look. I'd stick to their non crazy colored ones.

Yeah, they kinda meme but still fun. Their stuff is mainly kodak with some chem wash or something to give it some "sovl". Metropolis is a stock/style they sell that is designed for muted saturation and punchy contrast. It has an expired film look and goes for hungry teen homeless looking cool on the concrete in Berlin vibes. That said they can be fun to shoot and do make some pretty nice images but I still dont take them 100% serious.

>>4311091
>tell me what I should use but please don’t mention the best option because I’m a faggot, apparently
Anon pls

>>4311091
Gold 200
HP5 Plus

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Rollei 80s retro, my beloved.

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>>4310960
>what kind of "consumer grade" filmstock do you enjoy the most?
it was Superia 400 for color
now it's HP5 Plus, usually pushed a stop or 2
I haven't developed the rolls of Tri-X I've shot so it might change soon

>>4311068
>>4311104
I agree, I'm digging the vibes especially on these two.

>>4311115
>>4311118
I feel like Retro 80S doesn't get as much love as it should

>>4311106
>best
>implying one film is "better" than another.

I'm asking for suggestions. Maybe someone will suggest something I haven't thought about and provide a compelling reason or example. I know Portra(AS IN PORTRAIT) is good for portraits. I don't need it suggested.

I found out something really cool today when making 4x5 wetplates/contact prints.

Contact prints where your magnification ratio is close to or greater than 1:1 look amazing because the subject matter is larger rather than smaller than in real life. Even if the plate/print is relatively small it feels big because of the subject matter being magnified!
Maybe obvious to some, but I found it to be an interesting realization after I did some ~3x mag macro shots.

>>4311123
Haha im glad you dig those bc technically I shouldnt have shared them, its against the rules to photograph these areas, but I couldnt resist

What are some good film stocks that have a cooler/greener look like 400H and are easy to buy today?

Would anyone here be interested in my SWC? Figured I'd try here before listing it elsewhere and have to pay fees.

>Camera works great
>This film back is finicky and sometimes has issues
>$1350

Can post more pics and contact info it anyone is interested

>>4311216
Forgot pic

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Just bought a roll of this to shoot some portraits on my RB67.
I have never shot black and white film in my life.
How do I meter this so that I don't fuck it up?
Will be shooting this outdoors on an overcast day.

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Will the high cost of E100 hurt it's long term availability? It's 2.5x the cost of gold 20 and almost 2x the cost of ektar or portra.

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>>4311221

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>>4311218
kind of a banger with the Holy light leak blessing your image -- 10/10, ignore the sharpness/focus faggot that replied

>>4311308
Nice samefag, learn to focus fucking tard

>>4311218
If this were an intentional use of defocus it would be cool but knowing you're a /p/ user and did it by accident ruins the photo

>>4311217
Were you careful to not get much stripper juices on it?

shot some abandoned boats and a quarry on FP4 pushed to 400
getting fucking tired of getting scans with black levels blown the fuck out

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>>4311324
different dude, learn to appreciate The Light

>>4311330
and of course some kind of fuck up by the lab on few frames

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>>4311330
Shooting FP at 400 when HP exists and complaining about tonal fuckups is a bit of self-own desu

>>4311308
>ignore the sharpness/focus faggot that replied
They are all rubbish snapshits that belong on cutting room floor. >>4311221 included, only thay one is at least correctly focused.
>>4311218 is both out of focus AND haS camera shake, like nigga wtf are you doing. This is accidental exposure tier shit.
>>4311224 is the closest to a serviceable composition (even if a banal symmetry one), but you were still a step or two too far to the left. And forgot to focus.
If those are the best you got out of the roll then God damn anon you need to keep practicing, and slow down and start thinking about what you're doing before you release the shutter. Have a mental checklist, exposure, focus, composition, and make sure all are checked. If they're not, then don't waste film on it.
And have some critical eye for your own work, even if this is the first roll you shot then you should be able to tell what's in focus and what is not. And just because they're your least shit doesn't mean they're worth posting, they're still shit.
Good luck, hope to see some BETTER work from you at some point.

>>4311329
Nah couldn't stop it. Bitches loveed it when I hit em with the SWC, started creaming all over it.

>>4311219
meter for the shadows and you'll be fine

>>4311330
this was my thought lmaoooo >>4311364

>>4311364
>>4311432
nah I don't think so, it's the problem of the scanner used by the lab, I've had many other films shot on native iso or pushed and the black levels were fucked on some, even when the exposure was fine
nothing wrong with pushing FP4

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>27 rolls of 120 is $300

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>>4311481
>Professional
>Professional
>Professional
You're buying film that explicitly says, right on the box, that it's meant to be shot for profit. Of course it's expensive.

Been looking to get into photography and I would like to start with an analog one. I've read the Nikon FM series are a good purchase. Are they okay for a beginner trying to figure out the hobby?

>>4310960
>what kind of "consumer grade" filmstock do you enjoy the most?
I've been digging Gold lately
Not literally, unfortunately

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[14] Kodak Gold 200 - 120-Pano_nobordermedres.jpg

>>4311487
>>4311481
Other than e100 that’s the average price for film.

>>4311490
lmao gold is "professional" now, apparently
>>4311487
>>4311481

Found a plustek 7200 (second hand) for a really good price, going to be picking it up this weekend to replace my v550 for 35mm scans, anyone else here use one and have any sample pics? and does the 7200 differ from the 8100 much at all?

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>>4311489
probably
get whatever you think will get you out shooting, they're pretty much all the same

>>4311481
Just shoot 120 for a project or if you’re getting paid if it’s such an issue.

>>4311219
1) Expose for what you need and just except that either top or bottom is going to clip.
2) expect it to be extremely sharp and detailed as far as the middle is concerned (like the anti fomapan)
3) Be ready for the grain
4) handles pushing (dono about pulling) very well though i shoot it at box speed 90% of the time

Play around with light. it handles contrast very well. anything that glints like water or a window blowing out looks wonderful.
The film to take for a sunny day .

>>4311561
I shoot all my XX at 800. Comes out nice.

>>4311481
>using anything except kentmere or foma
>probably just going to be all snapshits anyway
Yeah I mean a fool and their money and all that.

>>4311124
>I know Portra(AS IN PORTRAIT) is good for portraits.
If you admit this, I understand your question even less. Why not use what works and is a known quantity? Slight differences in colour temperature are not going to improve your snapshits. I don’t get it.

>>4311566
I know it does but what makes it special for me is that excellent tri-x worthy tone separation that has at box speed.
But i use use it more as a street , then a portraiture film.

Just shot a theater production on it yesterday.
(Attribute any spelling mistakes to me staying for drinks with the cast and only getting home at 2 am)

>>4311572
XX takes a giant steaming shit all over foma and kentmeres hairless and effeminate chest without even breaking a sweat.

>>4311561
>>4311577
Let me add that this a film that really benefits from spot metering

>>4311577
Do you use d96 for it as well? I just use rodinal 1+100 stand, or 1+50 because I'm lazy.

>>4311580
D-96 or D-76 depending on what i want/have.

I've had really bad luck sending it to the lab. IDK why but they dont wash it properly. Maybe it's just confirmation bias but i dont trust them with XX film.

>>4311566
retarded question but do you push process it at 800 or just normal process

>>4311590
For stand dev I may or may not add an extra ml or 2 of rodinal depending on my mood. If I'm doing a 1+50 dilution I follow the massive dev chart.

>>4311364
>>4311330
>self own
same for letting someone else do your scans and then bitching about them
but tbqhfa m
>fp4
The worst fucking film out; not fast, not sharp, not cheap, won't hold a latent image for more than 5 minutes, takes ages to process.
Its only strength is that you can blow it the fuck out with contrast and it keeps building an image without blocking up. It's probably pretty easy to print from as well.

>>4311220
I bet it has something to do with the retarded bongboomer pensioners at alaris fucking with everything. You can get a 400' roll of E100 from Eastman for what equates to about $7 per 36 exposures

>>4311481
what camera are you shooting this with?

>>4311596
>underexposing 5222 in rodinal
based grainfag
pic related is 5222@800 in rodinal 1:50

>>4311612
probably metered incorrectly and underexposed more than intentionally
pic related is from the same roll

Story time:

I had just finished a photoshoot where I used quite a bit of bulbs and flash photography and being too lazy to disassemble it all completely was carelessly shoving it into my car when two police officers approached me asking to have a look at my photos.

I tried to explain that it was film (which didn't seem to mean much to em). I was then told that there had been a local creep taking upskirts of kids and that one way or the other they would have to look at my pictures.

In my most patient voice I explained that I would have to develop the film first, Which they interpreted as a delaying tactic, as they then threatened to confiscate my film until they could determine that they were safe.

I was only allowed to go after I called up the model to confirm where I was and to show them some Instagram photos she took.

Fucking pigs man.

>>4311617
>giving off such big creep vibes that the police make up a reason to fuck with you
Have you tried looking like less of a miserable misanthrope in public?

>>4311617
whats your BMI and BO? onions? i'm surprised the model didn't just disown you over the phone just for the lels

>>4311621
>>4311618

Thin dude, no bo.
My honest guess is they mistook me for a tranny. I have shoulder length hair and had nail polish on (it's called style look it up lol)
I work with people all the time so i don't generally give off a creepy vibe.

 But who knows what's normal among artsy people is probably the first sign of the Antichrist to suburban cops.

>>4311554
27 rolls of 35mm would cost the same lol. Granted it'd be more exposures.

>>4311572
I've never used Kentmere but foma is trash. The images themselves are ok but the curl level of the film image is insane and you have to always shoot it at half box speed to get usable images. Foma is trash.

took some delta3200 and shot some moody underexposed pics

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>>4311627
its called being an icky fag lol

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Excited to scan this roll of Velvia tomorrow

>>4311647
>astro on slide
Absolute madman. How did you meter and calculate reciprocity?

Just developed a roll and it's all light leaks everywhere... maybe half the frames are usable

I have 12 more undeveloped for a project i've been working really hard on.

I feel like crying.

>>4311657
I doubled for recipro, though I did find a rough guide that went up to 8mins ish, this was 1 hour at 5.6 on the 45mm f4 for my 6x7. It's a touch under, I wish i'd gone a half stop brighter on the aperture, and then longer on the exposure as it would've given me cooler star trails. There's a weird dip in light at some point in the trail though, my guess is someone didn't see my camera setup in the dark and blocked it a bit while I was doing digital work

What B&W 120 film would you use to get as close as possible to the Oppenheimer look?

>>4311541
>critique wanted yadda yadda

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[8] Kodak Gold 200 - 120-Pano_medres.jpg

>>4311665
It was shoot on Double X so...

>>4311665
5222, thats what it was shot on according to /tv/

>>4311666
I like this first one better because of the composition, but although I don't quite like the cars blocking the view in picrel I wanted to capture that couple on the stairs and it worked

>>4311665
Kodak Double-X since it's the film stock used for the film
You already searched for "Oppenheimer Nolan" on Google to get that photo, could have just added "black and white film stock" to your search and get your answer right away

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>>4311670

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>>4311098
>>4311104
Metropolis, turquoise and purple are coated by InnovisCoat/ORWO. They are not Kodak

how fucked would I be for shooting Fuji 200 (we all know it's Gold 200 essentially) at f/5.6 1/250 in broad daylight? I think that's like three stops overexposed, thinking with Sunny 16 in mind. My subject was a few cows in a grass field, chilling outside where there were no shade.

gonna get it developed in a few days, but I'm not feeling optimistic about those particular pics

>>4311612
High grain, high sharpness is a compromise I'm willing to make.

That picture would be so awesome to print big on some nice fiber paper. Love me a big, grainy print.

>>4311682
thanks bro
will try to print it and this one >>4310459 when i get the opportunity

>>4311667
>>4311668
>>4311670
But CineStill's Double X looks like dogshit?

>>4311689
its the same stock nigga, it will of course look better larger and Oppenheimer was shoot on 70mm.

Some photos I shot on my Canon A1 have some weird supposedly light bleed issue. Shot on a Kodak Gold 200. What could cause this?

>>4311700
light leaks, probably from the side

>>4311700
You have leaks coming both front and back. Check the padding around the hinge as that is a very common place for leaks.

>>4311659
rip
maybe you can turn the light leaks into your project lol

>>4311681
Use a light meter next time there's even free light meter apps for your phone

>>4311689
that's cuz you gotta use the Kodak Double-X (5222) version
besides we're boycotting Cinestill

>>4311681
I'd say that's between 2 to 4 stops over, depending on how much sky you had in the frame.
I shot a roll of it at 100 and it looked perfect developed normally. The neg is denser, but overall it has a slightly softer, almost pastel flatter look. In some frames it looks even better to me than at 200. In a very few it looks worse.
Pic is one of the worst frames and it's still perfectly workable, I'd just dial it 1/3rd stop down when scanning and fix it further with curves. (This is a raw quick preview scan on full auto and no ICE obviously).
Anyway it's a consumer neg that has a ton of latitude. If the cow pics are critically important, then have it developed at -2. If not very important, and you metered the rest of the roll correctly, then try -1 for a middle ground. Post results.

>>4311708
looks like a wes anderson movie
man how I hate that faggot

>>4311709
Didn't think about it, but you're right. It wouldn't look like this after I was done processing it, but maybe I should actually leave it like this and start replicating this style more often just to annoy people kek

>>4311578
That may be so, but does it really matter if all you’re shooting is building corners and your annoyed cat, as people here do?

>>4311659
>doesn’t shoot a test roll or two before embarking on a big project
Holy based retard, RIP

what kind of tape for reusing cartridges when bulk loading?

>>4311689
They didn’t use cinestill, genius, they used the real thing.

>>4311715
I used micropore tape, and it works a treat. There's definitely cheaper options, but you don't use much when bulk loading.

>>4311715
masking tape has been fine for me tbqh

>>4311718
>>4311719
>>4311720
thanks, so then ill use anything i have lying around except duct tape

>>4311706
funnily enough, this only happened because I accidentally used the incident meter instead of the spot meter on my phone light meter app. only after I shot off a few shots did I realize I should've thought more logically and critically about the exposure

>>4311708
I may just have it developed for -1 because I really liked those cow pics, but that'd result in the rest of the roll being a stop underexposed... wondering how green/muddy that might make everything else

XX at 800, rodinal stand dev. Additional contrast will be added.

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Where can I get Negative Lab Pro?

I don't want to pay
 a 100 USD just for a plugin

>>4311732
last i checked rutracker and i think 1337x has it

>>4311732
just use NEGAdoctor on darktable

Lovely. I think I'm going to try dodging the chest area some, or maybe lower the contrast by about a half.

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>>4311748
are you developing in a shed in your backyard or something?

>>4311750
I will be doing that eventually, but for now I have everything crammed in this ilford pop up darkroom. B&h had them on sale for 200 bucks like a month or two ago.

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>>4311689
no one said shit about Cinestill, moron
literally everyone told you to use Kodak Double-X
would you buy "Abibas" sneakers and then complain that Adidas sucks too?
you can't search look up by yourself the filmstock used, you can't comprehend basic text
just give up already

Horizontal crop next if I can fit everything in the frame. I printed both to see which pose I liked better.

THANK YOU CANON AND YOUR 1V AI SERVO MODE!

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Which do you prefer?

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>>4311627
>>4311617
maybe they took you for a hippie or a communist. in any case, sorry you had to interact with cops at all
also i think it's now normal for people to not understand film. i snapped a zoomer the other night and he asked to see the pics and i said it was film; analog and i'd need like a week to finish the roll and develop it. he just gave me a confused look

>>4311712
If you wish to watch one of his movies for refrence, watch The French Dispatch. Gives you a good sense of his style in both b/w and color.

>>4311617
you should sue those zog golems for harassment and for being retards, and ideally you would also stop being a little gay boy as well

>>4311689
>CineStill
nobody brought up jewStill, you dumbass. They're a bunch of greedy fucks btw
>>4311758
>would you buy "Abibas" sneakers and then complain that Adidas sucks too?
kek
>>4311718
what's the benefit of it?
>>4311748
based printer
>>4311752
I wish I'd known about that sale

dynamic range aside, is there a physical way to emulate film? color-wise, grain-wise, bloom-wise... like a combination of filter rings or something?

So I found these, apparently superb lenses, for a great deal on ebay, but the picture had nothing for me to understand the scale of them. The 900mm f16 is truly absurd. Apparently it has a large enough projection for 20x24 negatives.
I WILL be using it with my 4x5 sinar once I drill a plate for it. Stay tuned for more absurdity.

>>4311795
Still going on. The tent has a few flaws and annoyances, but it's good enough for what you pay, all things considered. I wouldn't pay the normal 350 for it...
Lots of room for wetplate printing, but if you're using an enlarger I wouldn't plan on doing anything more than 35mm/contact printing with one of those tiny enlargers. My Leitz v35 enlarger with a 16x20 easel barely fits, and I have to keep the chemistry on the shelf beneath the enlarger. It works, but it is cramped. A custom L shaped table would be nice for it.

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/prod<wbr>uct/1684626-REG/ilford_1181926_pop_<wbr>up_darkroom.html

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>>4311796
Yea you go buy film and shoot it faggot. Stop trying to imitate something with the real thing is easily accessible

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>>4311767
>maybe they took you for a hippie or a communist
are you americans really this retarded?
>that guy is taking photos
>he's probably plotting to organize the working class and take the means of production
stop being such a paranoid illiterate faggot
anyway
>i think it's now normal for people to not understand film
yes, more than once I've taken pictures of 20-something yo people, so I thought they'd be familiar with film photography
I'm in my late 20's and I remember taking rolls to develop with my father until I was like 12 or something. But I guess people just forget stuff, we just know about it because we shoot film
>allegedly
'cause I ain't seeing much photos
>>4311796
you can shoot digital and then edit a lot, use presets, add texture for grain etc.
it'll never be the same, though
because it's not
but like... why not just shoot film?
and if not shooting film, why try to emulate it? just as a gimmick? that's kinda pointless

I am going to take photos of the house where they killed Trotsky using my Kiev 4 and Svemacolor, surely that will organize the working class.

>>4311806
thanks, not sure if I'll end up buying it anyway though. I'd still need everything else. It is tempting

How would I go about getting real crunchy pics? High ISO, half-frame? Can I just push any 400-speed film to 3200? It's been a while since I've shot film and I've never really gotten into black and white, but I've got an idea for a project

>>4311836
I'd shoot Ilford Delta 3200 at 6400 in a half-frame camera (but with sharp lenses so that it doesn't suck ass, like a Pen F) and develop in Rodinal
look up Daidō Moriyama so that you have good references instead of aiming for shit like >>4311612

A rare self portrait for all of you.

6x9 format, but this is only an image of a contact print.

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>>4311657
>>4311647

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>>4311863
Cool. Was it an experiment? Might be cool to do a double exposure portrait or landscape with something like that.

>>4311865
Yeah I wanna try it with 100 and get a few plate shots with more light at different lengths, maybe a big 4 hour one for lots of movement. It's tricky to do a double cause my 6x7 doesn't have the switch so I'm not sure how I'd go about it

>>4311863
cool as fuck, man
good job

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[0] Kodak Gold 200 - 120-Pano_medres.jpg

>>4311863
Best photo in /fgt/ in a long time. Congrats!
Are you sure the brightness dip wasn't just clouds? If someone blocked the entire setup then there would be completely empty gaps, no?
A little surprised there are no plane and satellite streaks at all, maybe they were to faint for iso 50.
And I wonder what are those?

>>4311871
>And I wonder what are those?
don't trust me because I'm talking out of my ass, but I'd like for someone to explain to me if that makes sense
could it be some sort of color shift caused by refraction of light/internal reflections on the lens or something like that occurred in specific positions?
because they seem to be roughly at the "same spot" in relation to the length of the adjacent streak, and their brightness seem to match those of the adjacent streaks as well
Again: I have no idea if that's even possible, but I'd like someone to explain if I'm right or wrong or somewhere inbetween and why
because that seems to be something interesting

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>>4311868
You could just use a flash to expose a portrait first and then quickly set it in the tripod. No need to do a "double" exposure.

>>4311855
Fat fuck
>>4311863
Looks like my washing machine

>>4311875
Oh very true

>>4311871
I think they're geo synch satellites or galaxies maybe, I see them on digital too
No clouds I could see but also it was a moonless night so mughve missed them, especially since they only affect the streaks on one side

>>4311878
>nophoto
>trash talks
plebbiest of plebs

>>4311878
:( Rude and wrong! My not baggy clothes look slightly baggy, I guess.

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>>4311881
>>4311874
I think geosync satellites is the winner, pic related is what I found after a quick search.
Now OP's homework is to ID them kek (shouldn't be super hard desu)

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>>4311886
Lay some cardboard out on those shelves.
It's what saved my photography crap from being ruined.

Anonymous

>>4311886
what do you even search for on ebay for big behemoth glass like that?

bros how do I test the focus on a folding camera (Moskva-5 to be specific) my test roll is focusing behind my subject

you can put matte tape on a piece of glass and tape it to the film window.
alternatively tape directly over the film gate but you might get flatness issues then.
myself i've cut out a piece of an old lcd diffuser that can be taped or held over the gate but not everyone has an old busted monitor laying arouund.

>>4311902
500mm+ focal lengths. Old barrel lenses, you can research different ULF lenses, the rodenstock apo ronar is fairly common on ebay up to 900mm...

Look at this incredibly enormous nikkor lens my search algorithm graciously showed me. I'm tempted to buy it for the size alone. I don't think it would even fit on a 140mmx140mm sinar lens plate!

>>4311895
Noted.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/2252884801<wbr>54

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>>4311902
Actually try 360mm+ focal lengths. Seadching for Apo-nikkor comes up with a lot of results for ulf lenses.

>>4311888
Nito

Going out this weekend maybe if the weather clears. Gonna try another 1, a 2, and maaaybe a 4 hour on some velvia 100.

>>4311888
Also best guess, I'm in NZ so southern celestial pole or whatever you want to call it

>>4311863
Oh and a couple pics from the same roll

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>>4311808
>but like... why not just shoot film?
because it's tiresome to be scavenging for color film for hours on da internet

>>4311989
You're aerochrome guy.

>>4311997
Congrats! Looks like you may have some bromide drag going on there. Did you do stand dev?

I love taking pics at the beach even if I'm constantly worried about 1 grain of sand getting in my camera and destroying it.

>>4312040
Just buy a 3 pack of gold 200 retard
or the fuji one that is the same but cheaper

>>4312046
>Did you do stand dev
i did indeed, some negatives look much worse but most were fine i think. ill agitate more next time

>>4312046
If you're talking about the guy that sometimes posts Aero here, no that would be me. I haven't posted in this thread yet. Figured I was active enough last thread.

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Ektachrome is the only color stock worth shooting.

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>>4311038
Lower Ausable Lake in NY, the beach below Fish Hawk Cliffs.

Sorry for the late response, just came back to the thread after getting this banger >>4312060

>>4312072
Sure, if you have something worth shooting.

>>4310960
Reala

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>>4312072
My dog a few days before he died. He was 12 and was in general poor health.

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>>4312078
>worth shooting
>bald zoomerette

>>4312060
Oh, I thought that was the same waterfall you posted a while ago.

Crazy pic. Have you tried making ra4 prints with aero before?

>>4312055
If you had the 6ish feet of bellows to do a headshot with that thing the DoF would be razor thin. F11 isn't usually too dim on a ground glass, but f5.6 is a lot better.

>>4312087
RIP. I'm glad you got some nice pictures to remember him by.

>>4312091
>>4312096

Literally have never been around a woman.

But the point was to show off the skin tones of Reala. Definitely worth more than a field with a cut off power line on Ektachrome.

>>4312097
Nah, no longer have access to a darkroom. Now I only fuck around in Lightroom and if I do print something I send it out for someone to do it for me.

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>>4312107
>Zoomerspeak

Literally don't understand what you're trying to say.

>>4312098
>the point was to show off the skin tones of Reala
Not sure what you're trying to show off there, she's glowing red. The entire frame is.

>>4312125
yeas, i think because on kodak asian skin tended to look green and sickly, so theres a general pink tint on Fujis. IMO its not too bad but maybe its your monitor cali lol.

>>4312125
lol fix your screen, looks fine to me

>>4312098
Sorry roastie your shit filmstock and subject are shit.

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>>4312202

log cabin rotting away or taking photos of your friends. Literally soulless vs soulful

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>>4312209
>Bro let's COOK OUT
>you can bring your cool CAMERA
>It'll be so LIT

I hate hipsters so fucking much. They are the embodiment of soulless consumers following whatever the new trend is, yet they think they're above it and enlightened.

>>4312222
At least the corn looks tasty... What do you do with your friends?

>>4312209
I hope you made elotes with the corn

Sugar

Why the hell is Minolta AF glass so fuckin cheap now? I remember when Beercans were 200 bucks.

For that, I scored 50/1.4, Beercan with Crossed X, 28/2.8, all Minolta.

Anonymous

>>4312234
>Minolta AF glass so fuckin cheap now?
because A mount has been abandoned since the A99ii and the adapter ring for E mount is as big as an A7x

>>4312234
>>4312239
also I got a beercan for 100€ in like 2012 so minolta AF glass has been cheap for a while, it was even an argument for sony alpha

some are still "expensive" tho like the 100mm macro

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>>4312240

I paid 75 for the 100 Macro, is it good? I'm putting them on a 7000.

When I was in college I had a 7xi system and loved it. I missed the feel of the body so I got a 9xi and the aperture mechanism died on it so Im looking for another one and these lenses came up pretty cheap

Anonymous

>>4312246
>I paid 75 for the 100 Macro
nice

>is it good?
there's a great site to answer these questions for all sony lenses but especially A mount including minolta : dyxum.com

and yes they're generally considered quite good

>looking for another one
minolta cameras are generally going for cheap especially the not-so-great ones, you can get a (working) 7D for 100€ or a 500si for 30€

Sugar

>>4312248

I'm actually on dyxum I haven't been in forever I'll give them a look. I found the 7000 for 10 bucks it was not working and I cleaned the battery contacts and the battery pack and it came to life. Been a great camera so far.

Anonymous

What film stock do you most want to see brought back.

>>4312253
you can also just slap them on a cheapo A mount digishit which is non negligible (sony A37 can be found working sub 10k triggers for 50-80€, A850 for sometimes as low as 200€, full frame, pentaprism) so they're just good lenses to have around

plus there's still adapter rings for every mount anyway (often with AF)

>>4312256
is this a datamining attempt?

Fuji Natura 1600

Sugar

>>4312256

first for Kodachrome PKR64

I'll suck 50 black dicks in an alley way and give myself AIDS if it means I can shoot this again

Anonymous

>>4312209
>If you aren’t taking photos of baldies from anime club you aren’t taking photos!
Save those for digital

>>4312222
lmaoooo look at friendless nigga!

>>4312261
how freudian
>>4312273
better than tacking photos of bald basedcucks

>>4312264
>>4312281

I'd argue shots of nothing should be saved for digital yet here we are, you probably the type to use portra for fields and sides of cabins instead of PORTRAits. Friendless and bitter. Go outside and approach some people. Socialize.

>>4312228
Fuck yeah we did, that was actually right before we cleared the grill and threw in more charcoal cause more people showed up. Ended up staying in the park till late. That was a good day, gave a few burgers to a few homeless too.

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>>4312222

What you don't bring your camera everywhere? Been doing it for years. Bet longer than you. Wouldn't it be ironic if you were the bandwagoner, nophoto?

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>>4312040
then shoot digital and embrace the aspects of digital
so again: why emulate film?
why try to make your work appear as something else?
do your photos not stand on their own and they need some "aesthetic" gimmick to look good?
then they're not good to begin with
>>4312060
holy shit, anon
good job
employee-of-the-month-tier photo
>>4312078
was she crying or smoking weed? or did you fuck up the colors in her eyes?
If you didn't fuck up I wouldn't discard yellow fever based on the skin tones, too
>>4312087
I'm sorry for your loss, anon
Pretty sure he was a good boy

I need to buy a Nikon SP. are people on ebay taxing? prices seem steep. where else should I look to buy?

>>4312307
you will always pay the highest price on ebay. deals are found locally

>>4312234
Sounds like an excuse to pick up an alpha 9 to run all that cheap glass on

>>4312261
>I'll suck 50 dicks in an alley
Classic sugar. At least you're getting a
>head
start by shooting menelta garbage.
It's cheap because it's usdm consumer-tier shit. The cameras are clacky plastic trash covered in gimmicks and the lenses are screwdriver af unit focusing dinosaurs. The fabled shitcan only got a rep by not being dredged from quite as dire a sinkhole as the apsc glass sony put out for their SLuT memes, not for being objectively better than anything decent.

>>4312315
>edits out the most important “black” part
What did he mean by this?

tomorrow's dev menu : Kodak Tri-X 400 @400 iso in rodinal (1:50)

looking forward to it bros

>be me
>buy first fully manual film camera
>worry about the lack of autofocus with my poor eyesight
>9/10 times I am focused at infinity

Now
>slam my focus to infinity
>f/8
>subject is sharp every time
holy fuck it's so easy bros,. why did they even bother to invent autofocus?

>>4312328
>subject is sharp every time
well of course its sharp you're fuckin blind nigga

>>4312328
>Now try that in low light while not getting blur
>now try it at f/2.8 and hit focus

>>4312374
>Low light
Flash
>2.8
Not necessary

>>4312291
>then they're not good to begin with
90% of the photos in this thread are a waste of film so that's kinda rich

>>4312391
>nophoto
opinion discarded
or at least grow some balls and offer proper critique mentioning which photos you're talking about instead of making shallow generalizations so that you don't risk getting questioned, faggot

>>4312284
>UGH UR WASTING FILM ON ART TAKE PHOTOS OF STRANGERS
Not for 4chan

Are you really the social normie winner if you’re posting snapshits of your bald nerd “friends” on a porn site that hosts such savory things as “all of /trash/“

>>4312402
Maybe my friends want to be on the same website as
*looks*
Animal fucker friday and transforming into fat dragon women general

Ever think of that

>>4312379
>Not shooting MF with the smallest aperture getting the best bokeh

>>4312399
>illiterate to the point of not being able to express yourself properly but still confident enough to think highly of your opinion
delusional

>>4312409
Hey, my friends post in those especially tifdwf speak for yourself

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>memetubers tell me I need to buy some overpriced 120 kit from ebay
>buy 1950s era folder instead
>enjoy shooting way more

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>>4312402
>such savory things as “all of /trash/“
There are some quality posts made from time to time.

Any anons want to share their reasons for using film over digital?
I'm new to film but some reasons I have are
>Darkroom stuff is simply more fun than staring at Lightroom and Photoshop for 4 hours
>Especially alternative print styles like cyanographs
>Autism

>>4312459
The last 2 because I haven't done anything darkroom wise.

Also the cameras are more fun to use and there so much more variety, you can use a camera made in the 1930 or a fully automatic one from the 90s with the same film!

People are also more curious about them and they would be more willing to be photographed with one (took a TLR to an anime convention and everyone was asking about it lol)

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>>4312459
For me its the fact that film cams are generally way wackier and interesting than digicams which became standardized pretty quickly.

>>4312468
The wackiness is part of why early (like, pre-mid 2000s) digishits can be fun. They were really trying any old thing to see what would work, like picrel

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>>4312452
Mamiya Six
dunno if it's considered an automat, has some weird in-between-model year features like auto-cocking but not the bigger square windows. Regardless it hasnt failed me yet

lizerd

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>>4312503
flour

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>>4312504
stick

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>>4312505
roark

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>6x7
>645
>6x6
>6x9

This is the correct power ranking of medium format sizes. All other oddball sizes are disregarded.

>>4312470
Yea i got myself a few of those too

>just developed a roll of film
>unknown to me halfway through increased shutter speed one step
>half the roll severely underexposed

>>4312607
>disregarded
Say that to my face, fucker, not online see what happens.

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I told my friend's friend I would bring my film camera to take pics of his bday party at the club, but I forgot and only have XX I'm going to shoot at 800 iso with flash. Lmao.

I think I'm done with the film for a while
> Move to a new place where I can't develop at home.
> No problem there are two places not far from where I live.
> One has literally no idea it offers the service...
> To the other sometimes takes over a month.
> Finally find the dude online who does the job however he is expensive (does slide and tabular films tho)
> The camera develops shutter problems. And I lose 5 rolls.

Together this is just too much I think I'm going to move to digital for a while maybe when I am more settled in I'll go back to film.

Just sucks =(

>>4312672
> Move to a new place where I can't develop at home.
nigga what? you can develop film in a hotel bathroom sink
> The camera develops shutter problems. And I lose 5 rolls.
this is why I do a roll on the day I shot it, just portion your chemicals into smaller working batches and don't mix the developer until you're ready to use that batch, seems to last just as long as mixing up a lot and doing lots of rolls at once.

>>4312611
If a change in 1 stop of exposure severely underexposed your film then you got bigger problems (unless it was slide I guess)

>>4312687
>nigga what? you can develop film in a hotel bathroom sink
I'm moving between multiple apartments and Lugging a bag of chemicals with me is the last thing I want.

So, Tmax400 in HC-110 and Tmax100 in Xtol ?

>>4311968
So i remembered the Aurora was out for the first time in a while here, so got two pics that if my math checks out will be exposed roughly the same as this >digital image

>>4312607
>This is the correct power ranking of medium format sizes
yea, starting with the shittiest and ending with the best

>>4312726
bonus I get to wait like 3-4 weeks to find out cause my country has ONE lab that develops slide film

Lab I work at just got a shipment of a fuckload of 120 film
What should I buy and what should I shoot? I don't get a ridiculously large discount, but it's enough to make me really tempted to snag a few of the 24 pro-packs of Portra we've got.
Or maybe I'll finally shoot Ektachrome for the first time...
Also is TMAX 400 any good? I can get it for $7 USD per roll at the moment.

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>>4312730
E100 looks great IMO.

Speaking of which I ordered some e100 to shoot for the northern lights and my shipment was delayed. So I now only have either rollei infrared or lomo metropolis (which I've never shot). Which should I shoot?

I'm shooting a roll of foma 400 on a point and shot camera. I don't know how to manually adjust the ISO down to 200 so I'll have to figure something out. Should I just develop it at 400 or develop it at 800 essentially overdeveloping by a stop? This is why I don't like automatic cameras, you can't easily adjust all settings.

>>4312741
You gotta hack into the DX encoder mainframe with electrical tape and tinfoil

>>4312740
the infrared might be cool looking with the lights. not sure if they emit infrared though. maybe worth researching
>>4312741
you can buy DX code stickers (of any iso) to place over the one on the roll, or just develop at 800.

>>4312730
no portra 160 or gold? guess they probably get better margins on the more expensive shit
tmax 400 is excellent but it's pretty expensive so I don't shoot it anymore

Anyone else end up shooting too many rolls and never developing them? Finally developed a couple of rolls that have been sitting my film fridge for like 2 years.

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>>4312764
Also, anyone have any experience with the Mamiya 6 or Makina 67? I'm hankering for a medium format that is light/small enough to travel with.

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>>4312766
This was shot on retrochrome. Meme film. Terrible and incredibly annoying/difficult to meter correctly.

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>>4312761
Based. I've been on that exact ride as a kid. Are you using an xpan or something?

>>4312766
The mamiya 6 is a really fun camera. Everything is awesome on it except that the meter sucks with the 150mm lens. It works great with the 80 and under tho.

>>4312776
Fujifilm TX-1 but yea. The Mamiya 6 looks really sweet, but I'm wary of electronics. (Yea, the TX-1 is also electronic and that makes me nervous because I love it so...)

>>4312788
Cool! There's no gay mirrors to slap up your images. Just a little click.

I dont think they're worth the prices that they're fetching these days, but that's just me.

don't sleep on your local mom and pop thrift stores, lads! just picked this whole setup up for 40 bucks. they thought it was some kind of surveying tool (though, if you really think about it...) and priced it as-is. It looks like its been sitting in that case out in the open for a while, bit beat up and the shutter is slow, but i'm hopeful to get it going well again. one of the holders had a sheet of film when i opened it, and now i suspect that maybe they all might, but sitting out exposed and free for anyone to handle, they may all be trash. worth trying to develop? never done sheet film before. Thankfully i have a lomograflok already so may be able to get test shots soon. still, for 40bux, even it it doesn't work not a big loss.

>>4312791
Super based. I'd toss the film and get some foma100 to test and have fun with. You could possibly figure out the film type based on the notch pattern if you wanted. 210mm will be quite nice for portraits. :D

If you shake a film holder you can usually hear film knocking around if there's any in there. That's how I check.

What is a good alternative to Negative Lab Pro? The software is good, but Lightroom is absolutely retarded and I hate it. I need a stand alone alternative software. I am willing to pay money.

>>4312800
yeah i'm thinking if they do have film its all junk. the camera was out on the thrift store floor in the open by the checkout, so everyone passing by could have played with it and opened the holders. would probably be a waste of time and chems to try and dev them. and i don't have a sheet film tank holder anyway lol. The holders all seem very cheap flimsy plastic also, and some have cracks and tape holding them together. probably not worth keeping. The lomo instax back is graflok so im going to try to get that going on here before i sink money into film.

>>4312804
Yeah those film holders look like they may be no good... they're cheap enough used.

That instax back looks really cool, and it will be an excellent tool to practice using the camera. There's a lot to learn and practice if you want to get the absolute most from a monorail/4x5.

>>4312804
>>4312808
decided to say fuck it and clean all the holders out, and yeah, this film was all toast. 13 sheets in 5 holders, and only one was loaded emulsion side facing out lol. some of them are darkened and they're all scratched up. and the holders are junk, tape holding the end flaps and keeping them from splitting. oh well, like you say they're cheap and sttill was a good value for the camera itself. i just hope the slow speeds loosen up just with use.

>>4312808
you seem to know what you're talking about fren, it also came with a soft bag-like leather material bellows besides the normal scrunchy one on there already. what's that for?

>>4312809
The slow speeds will not loosen up with time, but you will get a feel for the shutter speeds. A couple of my shutters are over a stop off on the slower shutter speeds. I just kinda eyeball it.

You can always use it for wetplate colloidion where the exposure times are in seconds! :D

>>4312811
That's a wide angle bellows. It allows you to put the front and rear standard very close to each other, and still utilize movements.

>>4312766
By travel do you mean like on a trip or casualty leaving the house. At current prices for both the camera and shooting 120 I wouldn’t just throw just throw it in a bag for fun. You should have a project in mind.

>>4312829
Thanks for the recommendation I am checking it out.

Is investing in an actual scanner a better idea than scanning with my camera?

>>4312828
Mainly taking on trips, where it can't take up too much space in the luggage, and be light enough to keep on me all day as I'm walking around.

>>4312820
>>4312808
>>4312791
the instax back works beautifully. looks nicer than the scans make it out to be but i didn't adjust the scanner settings lol. man, the last thing i need is to get hooked on super expensive films now, but it seems a lot of fun using this beast.

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>>4312853
Damn. Maybe getting an instax back for my 4x5 will momentarily quell my burning desire to get an 8x10 back for my sinar.

Look into the schiempflug principle, and you'll soon be taking pictures only a view camera can take!

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>>4312860
The quality isn’t the most amazing it won’t match any of your film, but god damn if instant gratification doesn’t feel good, man. Another test snapshit of dog. Started raining and couldn’t continue using up this instax pack outside sadly. Time to start looking up lenses and shit on eBay now I guess lol.

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>>4312876
I know the feeling from wetplate. It's always great to see the image appear when you drop your plate in the fixer. Very addictive!

A binocular reflex viewing hood is one of my favorite accessories for my sinar. It doesn't replace a loupe, but it gets close, no messing around with a stupid blanket, and it flips the image so you see it right side up.

For lens ranges I suggest:
90mm, your 210mm, a 350mm, and maybe a 150mm. Those will serve you very well.
If you go past 500mm you'll need to buy extra rails, front standards, a second tripod holder and tripod, and more bellows...

My suggestion is to get an older 65mm or 90mm super angulon like pic. Excellent lens for the price, and wide angle 4x5 is really great.

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Another print I did yesterday. This film has ultra fine grain, but also extremely high contrast. This was a 1 minute exposure at f4 and zero contrast!

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>>4312884
Oops I forgot my pic.

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>>4312906
Of course. This one is still on page one. You better hurry!

>>4312761
>2 years
no but I'm back logged by like 4 - 6 months but instead of deving from first to last, I just put em in a bad and choose one at random to dev so I get a nice little surprise roll to develop

this happened with some of my negatives,<br>is there a problem with my shutter or film advance?

>>4313099
Looks like a horizontal cloth shutter issue, if that's what you have.

>>4313179
How many pictures are you waiting to share? I have a couple maybe. :D