Which lens should I pick up after the nifty fifty?

I have a Canon R8, not opposed to EF lenses though. I'm enjoying shooting with the 50mm but want to expand my horizons a bit. Been thinking about grabbing an 85mm...would you go with the RF 85 f2 or the EF 85 f1.8?

Is an 85mm forcing me into doing strictly portraiture?

There's also a Samyang 14mm f2.8 for a reasonable price near me. Is manual focus that much of a hassle to shoot with?

Idk, what are your thoughts /p/?

Pic is an image I took with my 50mm 1.8

24 1.8
35 1.8
85 1.8
24-1## f4
100-400, 1.4x TC

These are the only lenses anyone ever actually needs

i think if you're not wanting to do a lot of portrait stuff (i'm NOT saying that's the only thing a 85 is good for mind you), then maybe you should go for a wide zoom next. they're great if you're a "walk around and photograph things" type of snapshitter. ef16-35 is still good, rf15-35 is lovely but expensive (i don't regret buying mine fwiw), and there's a new 14-35rf also which is cheaper. there's also the oddball 24-35 sigma which is a fun EF lens as it's basically the answer to the "28v35" fags so you can just have them both and 24 lol. it was my main lens before i got the EOS R. <br>but an 85 is a great lens to have as well, i have an ef 85/1.2 that works just fine on R body, and apparently the RF 85/2 is a pretty decent little lens for the money.

>>4308054
85mm does not limit you to portraiture. People even use them for street, architecture and landscapes.

>>4308054
if you often find yourself cropping, 85
if you often find yourself having to step back, 28
alternatively get a zoom for both because you already got a fast lens anyway

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>>4308054
Bump. I love the Quay in North Van. Comfy place

>>4308054

You can already see what an 85mm would be from your 50mm shots, just crop out the outside 20% of your photo and that’s what an 85 would have got.

It’s just a bit more zoomed in than a 50 but nothing crazy. Unless you shoot wide open you won’t get much extra you can’t with the 50.

200-600mm for birds
70-200 for people fashion
50 for general
24-35 for landscapes street events with multiple people subjects

at first I got like 28-70mm zoom for minolta, sold it, then got 50mm for nikon, after that 28mm, it is not anyhow better after enter the collector, just a hobby

something in the 80 to 135 range. It will force you to focus on details and composition. The change in perspective will also have a distinctive look from your photos with 50 mm.<br>I would not go for a wide angle.

something in the 18 to 35 range. It will force you to focus on details and composition. The change in perspective will also have a distinctive look from your photos with 50 mm.<br>I would not go for a telephoto.

>>4308054
I recommend the Nikkor Z 24-120 f4 s

>>4309367
Great lens but OP has a Canon RF mount camera.

Damn I forgot I made this thread

>>4309190
Thanks, yeah I was there for a wedding, it was an awesome spot :) I took some cool pictures I think, here's another one that feels v comfy

>>4309191
Definitely mostly trying to decide between a 35 & 85. 85 would be nice because I wanna start doing more ""street portraiture"" and it feels like kind of an easy way to get semi impressive looking images with nice bokeh

>>4309249
>>4309359
kek good to know, thanks anonymous posters

>>4308054
>nifty fifty
just wide angle with a crop, unless you want muh blurrrs n shieet which is cringe if overdone

the distortion is related to distance, not focal length

>>4309850
just get a Hasselblad H6D-100 with the 24mm and you can have every focal length that you want!

desu I only ever use my 24 f2.8 these days

>>4310893
What kind of stuff do you shoot?

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>>4308057
>35 1.8
Underrated lens. Same with the 28 2.8.


Marktown

Anonymous

Industrial town

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>>4308100
how does a Samsung look THIS bad?

>>4308100
I helped build that coker. Built scaffold at the top of it. You from the region?
Flare stacks at night can make for some great photos, with the refinery lights in the background.


Ask a Pro

I make images for a living. Happy to answer any questions.

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>>4309025
Photos, video/films, the odd bit of graphic design. So, to be inclusive, images.

>>4309020
There is no such thing as a professional photographer.

having said that, did you not get enough attention today and need to come to a board full of people who also "make images" for some sweet treats?

cANON

>>4309020
Is waking up to experience 9/11 the reason that New York is the greatest city on Earth?

Anonymous

>>4309034
That guy says some wacky fuckin bullshit. Also believes he's the second coming of Christ or something. Wild ego.

>>4309033
Noted. Idk, I just wanted to see a gear thread die.

cANON

>>4309035
>believes he's the second coming of Christ or something
Did he actually say that or is that just your interpretation of his personality?

Anonymous

>>4309040
No, he doesn't literally believe that, but he does believe he was chosen by God to be mayor, and strikes a messianic tone in most of his speeches. It's a little out there for a civil servant IMO.

>>4309035
>Idk, I just wanted to see a gear thread die.
You're the hero this board needs, then.

Why is greenpoint so fucking gentrified these days?

cANON

>>4309043
>he does believe he was chosen by God to be mayor
Is that what the master Mason at his lodge told him?

Anonymous

>>4309047
Great location, nice old buildings, good parks, dope Polish food, well developed waterfront, kind of a no brainer. Taqueria Ramirez slaps. I like Greenpoint. But yeah mere mortals are priced out of Williamsburg/Greenpoint entirely now, LIC/Astoria are next. And the hipster sleeze have moved on to Ridgewood, get in while you still can.

>>4309048
idk, is he a Mason? My knowledge of Masonry is entirely derived from The Man Who Would Be King and that episode of the Simpsons.

>>4309020
name literally the single greatest composition book EVER made

>>4309065
idk, I prefer looking at photo books to books on photography, if that makes sense. Larry Fink on Composition and Improvisation is pretty good. I really look up to Mary Ellen Mark, Donna DeCesare, Irving Penn, Eli Reed, Walker Evans, Josef Koudelka, Rosalind Fox Solomon, Alex Webb, HCB, Elliott Erwitt, An-My Le... it's good to just absorb as much as you can imo.

cANON

>>4309050
>idk, is he a Mason?
He's a Shabbos goy through and through.

Anonymous

>>4309020
Going to NYC for the first time in June. Will be staying in downtown Brooklyn for the first half of the week and then I'm not sure for the second half. Thinking Astoria. What area will have unique street opportunities within walking distance? Manhattan seems overdone to me but maybe I should think more outside the box. Queens gives me GTA 4 vibes that have been lingering in my mind for 16 years.

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>>4309071
Same thing.

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>>4309488
Definitely go eat in Queens. Astoria Seafood is sick, Jackson Heights has a bunch of great Indian and Nepalese joints, Flushing has the best Chinese food.

Downtown Brooklyn is kind of office-y, the Dumbo waterfront is bougie and gentrified af, but still kinda nice to wander through. I like Prospect Park and surrounding area quite a bit, there’s a good cheap pool hall on Flatbush, Oceans 8. Check out Red Hook maybe, cool area. Public Records and Nowadays are great for dancing, PR has the better sound system.

>>4309525
Thanks. Not big on the night scene. Or Eastern food. But I'll have to try the Chinese since this might be the only chance I have to get some decent stuff.
I'll be staying near Sunset park for the second half of my trip.

how many fotos do you save, how and where?

>>4309620
Oh if you like dim sum East Harbor Palace Seafood. Incredible. 8th Ave in Sunset Park is cool.

>>4309626
I save every photo I take. I use an OWC Thunderbay 4 with 4x16TB HDDs in a RAID 5 configuration. That is then backed up remotely with Backblaze.

>>4310036
Sure. Will I? Ehhh. This is more of a Q&A thread.

>>4309020
Are you and your peers as concerned about AI as the graphic artists are?

>>4309020
Do you just snapshit continuous high jpegs and have a phone stuck to your camera constantly uploading them to interns with NX mobile air?

>>4309020
>Pro
Photographers are 2.50 times more likely to commit suicide than average.

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>>4310415
Yes. I just filed my taxes, so I proved it to the IRS. But in this venue, I’m not going to. So take it as granted and move on.

>>4310420
It’s a background concern, a bit out of my control, so it doesn’t do me much good to worry about it. I just try to focus on improving the product I create, making real photos and films. I think there will still be a market for authentically produced imagery of humans, by humans, so I’m not overly concerned. Certain clients are going to make shit with AI rather than hire a photographer… but those were probably shit clients in the first place, so is that much of a loss? The market does suck right now, but you just gotta keep swimming.

If I were in micro stock or something, I might be freaking out, but that’s a field that’s been racing to the bottom for decades now, so the writing was already on the wall.

>>4310431
I almost never shoot jpegs, I don’t have interns, and I don’t typically have wire service like deadlines, so no.
>>4310460
The moar you know.

>>4310492
>So take it as granted and move on
No, you have done nothing to prove your credentials
You are a fraud hungry for attention
A real pro (like Ken Rockwell) would have no problem posting basic snaps at the very least

>>4309020
Why was I so excited to buy my first camera but now it's here I never want to use it?

>>4309020
why would you make a whole thread for yourself and then not share photos?
at least have the decency to not be a nophoto

>>4310514
Because a camera on its own is not exciting, it’s all about what you can use it for. What did you want to photograph, what inspired you to buy the problem? If there’s no answer to that, found the problem.


Why is the best setting?

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BurtGummer

ISO 100 is where you start to lose detail to grain texture.
Lower than ISO 100 and you start to see softness in images, dynamic range below 100 tends to be sketchy, your shadow details get muddy.

100 and 400 were seen as the standard with film cameras because 100 was for optimal sunny conditions and 400 was recoverable for most other conditions.

Anonymous

Glorious ISO 64 in Nikon is better than 100 in all situations.

>>4309628
Iso 200 for digital cameras not made by liars

>>4309636
most ISOs are overrated actually, ie iso 100 = 70 on sony and canon, 50 on olympus and fuji

nikon’s native iso 64 is actually 50

>>4309628
usually go for 400-800 because I'm a gittery caffeine goblin and I like my shitter fast

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>>4309628
whatever I need to shoot at the shutter speed I want to shoot at with the aperture I want to shoot at

>>4309628
my D1H only go 200-1600
one migh complaint also lack of resolution, but it is what it is

cANON

>>4309781
There are far more legitimate criticisms of the D1 series than the resolution.

Anonymous

>>4309628
I've come around to your way of thinking, OP.
Motion blur ruins an image worse than noise. And modern cameras look amazing at high ISO.
Minimum shutter speed = 1/200
ISO = unlimited
If it's dark, and you're shooting a still scene, just swap to M mode.

>>4309812
>And modern cameras look amazing at high ISO.
SOOC noise reduction doesn't handle the color fog
Capture one doesn't handle the color fog
Lightroom handles the color fog but it also totally destroys color at every ISO unless you turn all its bullshit down, then it doesn't handle the color fog, also lightroom "grain" is super fucking oversharpened and looks like ultrashit

>>4309828
Sorry you're having a bad time
SOOC looks fine to me, and everyone outside of 4chan

>>4309833
Everyone outside of 4chan is a non-autistic rube that literally cant comprehend fine details. Their normie brain heuristics filter everything not relevant to their goals out. Hence they worshipped the autists for so much of history they came to use a mispronounced version of "autist" for people who could recreate the flawless beauty of creation - "artist".

>>4309812

different user, different preferences, 1/60 - x is the ideal range, my coolpix would be near perfect with 1/60s auto iso firmware update

>>4309628
Metering set to -0.5 or -1
ISO: Auto
This is actually the proper way to photograph.

Remember, there's no such thing as a correct ISO. It's not film. It's just electrical gain applied during readout. The electronics can ETTR better than you can fiddling with ISO 100 vs 140 or 200, and on certain devices like phones you can use ISO 46/47/48/49/50/51/52/53/54/55/56...<wbr>/411/412/413 as needed.
ISO is amplification applied during the digitization process, "proper" (autismo tier accurate) ISO is key to minimizing the effects of visible noise.

Sticking to ISO 100 when a shot calls for slightly more (like 1/3 of a stop) actually degrades quality.
Set EV steps to 1/3 or 1/4 or whatever your camera is capable of and let it handle that bit automatically. Adjust shutter/aperture to get it's "auto" ISO setting as low as it can go, there's no reason to manually control ISO outside of planned photography like setting it on a copystand/tripod and lighting your scene accordingly. In the real world, AUTO ISO is quite literally almost always the best setting. Don't let "iso invariant" retards fool you, there is no such thing.

>>4309893
>no such thing as a correct ISO
didn't have to read that far to tl;dr the rest

>>4309896
The manufacturers lie about their setting all the time, even if you use a light meter the systems are designed to fool you.
ISO is not a real standard anymore with digital, so there are no correct values anymore.

>>4309904
>Le manufacturers lie
Have you ever actually looked it up?

Sony/canon/nikon ISOs are all about 1/3 of a stop slower than the film standard is meant to be, barely anything

Only fuji/olympus/panasonic are further off than that (2/3-1 stops slower than stated), because they mostly sell crop sensors and mislabeling ISO makes it easier for the marketing liars to say they have good dynamic range.

>>4309893
>There is no such thing as ISO
Not in dual gain cameras. They have two gain circuits that have different shadow recovery characteristics.
>Sticking to ISO 100 when a shot calls for slightly more (like 1/3 of a stop) actually degrades quality.
No it doesn't because 1/3 of a stop more ISO is within that gain stage, only aperture and shutter speed actually control how much light you get into the camera. That becomes a question when you're choosing say, ISO 200 or 400 on a camera where the second gain stage kicks in between 200 and 400. Then shoot at the second base ISO and you get less noise. If you recover shadows past the second base ISO it also typically looks a bit worse than just shooting at that ISO but who the fuck would recover more than 3 stops of exposure

For some reason one day I woke up and just stopped giving a shit about noise. 400? 800? 1600? Fuck it, we ball. Too noisy? Shrink the image by 20% in post. Looks fine. Fuck the police. Way more important to have a sharp/stable image. Push that shutter speed to the fucking moon. Push it. Force it. Make it your bitch.

>>4309954
Did the same thing
One morning I woke up, glued 4 handfuls of sand to a pair of sunglasses, and walked around wearing them so I could truly immerse myself in the best visual experience man has to offer.

Now that ISO invariance is a thing there is no reason (except jpegs) to change ISO on the camera rather than shooting at 100 and pushing 6 stops in post. You're just throwing away headroom for no benefit. I don't know why they don't just make ISO an exif field that tells your RAW program to push it rather than changing the actual pixel values.
>>4309893
>The electronics can ETTR better than you can fiddling with ISO
They could, but they don't because camera manufacturers are stuck in this dumb "muh jay pegs must look good" mindset. It would be so easy with mirrorless, you're reading off the whole frame anyway, you could just find the brightest pixel and adjust exposure so that the brightest channel is at 2^14 or whatever the max pixel value is. Nikon even has a mode that claims to do this ("highlight-weighted metering") but I've caught it both over and underexposing the raw files presumably to make the jpegs look better.


Zach

Have you all actually tried these lenses? They're pretty cool.

Anonymous

>>4310110
Manual Zuikos? Yeah I have a 50mm 1.4 and its great, but it has a very modern, clinical look to the pictures, not really what youd expect from vintage glass.

Zach

>>4310152
Does it remind you of Zeiss glass?

Anonymous

>>4310110
far worse, i have them. they have a weird color cast.

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>>4310167
Canonet ql17 with porta 400, compare, to...

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>>4310168
...Lolympus. Different day, similar exposure tho.

Using them on digital there's a dull yellow/green tint depending on the lens

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>>4310169
Thoriated glass? I have a super-shitumar 50/1.4 which goes yellow over time

Zach

>>4310167
Their color cast looks good on a t2i.

>>4310196
Well at least I have plenty of money to buy food and rent instead of using most of it on camera gear.

Anonymous

>>4310199
Do you really think nobody here makes actual money? The shitty film camera above seems to come with a personal pool hall.

Zach

>>4310216
Well after since seeing the infamous video of the photographer who uses his disability checks on buying cheap film, kinda.

>>4310224
Alrighty then, what vintage lens do you think looks good on the T2i?

Anonymous

>>4310193
There are two main versions of the Super-Takumar, the original version had 8 elements and contained no thorium, but my usage had a slight yellow tint anyway. Maybe the later versions just have it worse.

Zach

>>4310230
I've heard a lot about those lenses. M42 mount right?

Anonymous

I have the 55 1.2. Managed to snag one with a camera body for $150. It is a fun lens, but clearly vintage. Bokeh is strange and it has lots of chromatic aberrations.

>>4310168
>>4310169
are you the dogfucker of /p/?

>>4310110

Use them in my Olympus om1 it’s part of getting that look from that era.
Using my modern Nikon primes on the f100 produces something that looks halfway between film and digital.
I much prefer film with these older style lenses.

>>4310159
Not particularly, but Zeiss has a certain niche, and a lens doesn't have to be Zeiss-like to be good

>>4310232
Yes, but they'll adapt rather easily to modern mirrorless (DSLRs are S.O.L. though, since the back element gets in the mirror's way). The Takumar 50s are also known for their heavy flaring when wide open. Pic related is f/1.4.

>>4310434
This is probably a better example.

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>>4310146
>>4310148

That and I also doubt that he realises at all what is happening here. I am quite certain now that ol' zacherino is legally retarded. He just doesn't know better. It's not a choice that he ignores all and every single hint or justified critique, but he is simply unable to process it and to reflect it on himself just for a second.
A tragic figure, but also fascinating. Reminds me a bit of the Drachenlord.

The internet should never have opened up for normies.

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Zach

How about you go for a walk outside photographing nature outdoors. Come back home and drink a nice cold glass of water

Anonymous

>>4310156
maybe I'm the legally retarded....damns

>>4310157
Zach, why did you ignore my request to do a self critique? We all want to see you grow and become a better photographer, but you have to drop the ego and look objectively at your work.

Zach

>>4310184
It's okay anon. I'm improving as a guy with a camera.

No worries I know you have let out all that energy at something.

Anonymous

>>4310188
Sad! I hope you know that people would be treating you far far better if you weren't acting like a petulant child.

Zach

>>4310194
And lose my childlike zeal and passion with using a camera? Nah, I'm good being a childish photographer.

Anonymous

>>4310197
I see none of that in your photography. You're still far below the ability to express those things through photography.

Zach

>>4310200
Well at least I'm taking photos for me.

>>4310211
Hmmm... I wonder if there are any transgender photographers in the world. I do remember one talking about getting a Panasonic mirrorless camera on a discord.

Anonymous

>>4310188
>I'm improving as a guy with a camera.
No, you're not. We seen your photos.

>>4310197
>Nah, I'm good being a childish photographer.
No, you're not. You came to us asking how to get people to like your photos.
(Dropping the ego is also really good advice, both for photography and in general. But it's something you'll never be able to make yourself do.)

>>4310203
No, you're not. You keep waving them around in public hoping for praise, and when you don't get that you got so distraught that you risked "the rats" screwing up your imgur and youtube pages.

Lying about these things when you've just shoved proof of how things really are down our throats isn't going to get you anywhere. The only one you might fool is yourself.

>so butthurt makes thread to announce how butthurt he is
>LISTEN TO MY ADVICE REEEEEEEE
>I'll have you know I may be autistic but at least I'm not retarded

>>4310255
I think he made the thread because out of sheer amazement and shock at the spectacle of the hyper autist known as Zack.

Zach

>>4310254
Okay? I'll improve on my photography.

Anonymous

>>4310258
he seems pretty normal? Idk maybe you just don't get out much

Zach

>>4310263
I'm not normal! My autism makes me special!

>>4310267
Man other Zach, did you know there are a ton of people on the spectrum who are into photography like yourself.

Anonymous

>>4310263
Stick around and wait til you see some more of his threads. He’s basically our resident schizo

Zach

>>4310298
Cool are we gonna sit around and eat popcorn?

>>4310300
Yes, watching you continue to make an absolute fool out of yourself.

It's not my fault I appreciate the comfort of men in the evening<br>They make me feel secure, loved, cared for.


Film AND Digital

No bait this time, lets just enjoy the different qualities of the two mediums together.

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Anonymous

The film looks nicer though.
Digital greens always look bad, film handles green so much better.
Also that’s some really flat light that day so contrast is looking pretty even between the two.
Overall film wins again.

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Digital humiliation thread. The film mogs with sovl each time.

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>>4310530
whys there so many stains on your film? hard/mineral filled water?

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>>4310534
yeah and i need a new squeegee

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havent taken any car pics with this one yet sorry

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>>4310293
How are ALL of your negatives just COVERED in shit??????? What are you doing??????

>>4310599
prolly hard water, it tastes like shit too

are you not editing you digital shots at all or something? film is not normally this much better.

>>4310293
Leica M8 actually holding up really well. I understand the Leica meme now, 90% as good as 35mm film but none of the expense or issues developing rolls. Great thread, I'm looking at M8s on eBay right now because of it LOL.

cANON

>>4310293
lel are you really a raggare? I thought the anon that claimed so was bullshitting about everything because he also said you were me and cinefag

Anonymous

>>4310293
every single film photo posted here is already film AND digital though??? Not really sure what your point making this thread is unless it is just your clever way of saying film photography thread

>>4313540
nah im just some dude who likes and owns an old car

>>4313541
har har har very funny have a gold star

>>4313540
>he still thinks it's one person that believes that
Just admit you're the same person.

>>4313531
please be bait please be bait please be bait
the LEICA looks fucking AWFUL dude JFC i hate this board

Crazy how much better the highlight detail is on film. Only colours and sharpness are slightly better on shitital

>>4310293
What film were you using? I quite like the look of it.

>>4313724
gold 200 developed in the cs41 kit accordingly to standard instructions, scanned on a Nikon Coolscan LS2000 and Vuescan, inverted in lightroom with negative lab pro

Other than some troll setting very yellow auto WB on the leica they rook arike

>>4313734
nah its just me not having an ir cut filter yet, the m8 likes to make fabrics purple and foliage yellow

here, i made an edit just for you, didn't touch the white balance at all, just hue-shifted the yellows into green

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>>4313730
Thanks. I might try to bulk buy some gold when I get back into shooting 35mm. Seems like an acceptable quality alternative to portra without the assrape price.


Anyone have experience with wide primes? I was looking at either the 20mm f2.8 or the newer 20 f1.8
I was previously using a 12-24 f4 but it got damaged so I wanted to try something else

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In F mount? The 20 2.8 AF-D is cheap and decent, not super sharp in the corners at 2.8 but usable. The size is the biggest plus for me. It’s tiny and you never mind tossing it in a bag just in case. The 1.8 looks amazing if you’re doing astrophotography at all, so go for that if so. For landscapes where you’re stopping down to 5.6 or 8 anyway? The 2.8 is totally fine.

The Z mount 20mm S lens is in another league altogether.

>>4309260
Astrophotography is something I’ve done before with lesser lenses so thanks for that suggestion, I think the 1.8 would be better for me of the 20mms, any other wide primes you could suggest?

>>4309255

i think this was 20mm f/2.8 af-d plus uv-filter, not sure though

most images came without flare

>>4309294
There’s a 15 3.5 that’s pretty spectacular but you’re giving up a full stop and it’s pricier. I think 20 is the sweet spot in terms of being ultrawide but not looking too crazy. Otherwise there’s the excellent 14-24 f/2.8 holy trinity lens, but that’s a heckin chonker.

>>4309300
Nice lens but yeah that thing is massive, plus attached to a giant FF body you got a brick

There's a few modern-ish MF wide primes too, Irix 15 2.4, Rokinon 14 2.4, maybe some others. I don't have any myself though, besides a MF RMC Tokina 24 2.8.<br>There are also some good deals on 17-35 2.8-4 tamron (which is reasonably sized too), but I have no idea how good that is.

The Nikon 17-35 is pretty nice I will say. Temper your expectations, it’s not as good as a 14-24 in the 17-24 range nor as good as the 24-70 from 24-35… but it’s a solid performer taken on its own merits. The 20-35, do not bother.

>>4309255
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Racist KKK white pig retard who discriminates against Asians should kill himself.

>>4309717
the fuck

>>4309255
ive been eyeing the viltrox 20/2.8 (for mirrorless) - its tiny and ridiculously cheap ($160), plus the reviews say its not at all bad. maybe its worth trying it for the price without blasting big money on a lens thats twice the size and has similiar performance(?)

Ive been looking at picking up an FD 24mm f/2.8 for my F1 New. Decent prices on Ebay. I have a 28mm f/3.5 which performs surprisingly well. Does anyone have any experience with the Canon FD wides?

>>4309255
I own a 21 mm F 2.8 Zeiss Great amazing lens

>>4309731
bought the 20/2.8 mentioned and its fantastic considering the price.

>>4309260
>The Z mount 20mm S lens is in another league altogether.

I think this is the lens that actually convinced me to finally switch over to mirrorless. I can't decide between the ZF and the Z8, though.

Zach

Wide lenses are especially useful if you're stuck in cramped areas while filming or photographing.

cANON

>>4309255
>I was previously using a 12-24 f4 but it got damaged
What'd you do to it?

Anonymous

>>4311472
Dropped it and cracked the composite frame, the lens elements are ok but now the left side of pictures are out of focus

>>4311441
Z8 if you have the funds, no question. No mechanical shutter to fail, higher resolution, insane burst modes, native 64 ISO, it’s a do everything wonder machine. That Zf a cutie tho. If I were only adapting vintage lenses or shooting with manual Voigtlanders or I cared about how a camera looks, I might choose it over a Z8.

>>4311471
That’s right Zach, very good.

>>4309255
Yeah. I shot for years with Nik’s wild 14mm aspherical prime. I loved the shit out of that big glass monster. Easily my fave lens of all time. BUT the plebs hated the distortion & the optics are circa-2000 so lenses have gotten a good bit sharper since then. It was fine & great on my FA through my D2x & 36mp D810e, bc the resolving power of the glass and the sensor were about equal. ...but when I plop it on my Z7 at 45mp I can see the difference between it and the Zeiss 18mm Batis. And the Batis + Megadap II are half the size & weight of the 14mm + FTZ. And the AF works on the Batis, unlike the 14 with the FTZ breaking AF. So fml, my 14 is in my eBay pile. :(

>>4311441
I have the ZF, a Z7, and my Dad has the Z8. Man that Z8 is a bunch of camera to haul around. The ZF is as big as I want to go on a body ever. The 6/7/II’s are damn near perfect. ...the ZF’s size is different, bc they turned the battery to lay flat, so it made the body wider, but it’s nice if you want to snuggle a camera in a jacket pocket bc pop the lens off, and between the grip and the eyepiece the whole body is actually thinner than even my classic film cameras. I’m able to transport it and the Z 28mm lens in my light summer jacket pockets on the plane & into places where I’d otherwise not be able to get a good camera. Also the ZF has an incredibly good feel in the hand, that sounds superficial if you’re an aspie nerd that thinks the only aspect of photography is edge sharpness in ur photos, but if you’re a fully functional human being that understands why a Sony is a miserable camera to shoot with, then you’ll also appreciate an equally-spaced improvement beyond the old 90’s plastic & rubber blob body designs we think of as current. The ZF is a fucking metal brick of a camera and it feels fucking gooood to shoot with.

>>4311876
I’m just pissed that Nikon shit the bed and put the ducking 24mpx sensor in it just like the Z6. WTF. They should have put the 36mp sensor in it. That’d make considerably more sense in their lineup.

>>4311879
Gotta save something for the ZfII

>>4311879
I personally feel that the 24mpx sensor was a good choice. Its enough for 99% of the work youre probably gonna be doing and.. Who doesnt like a big ass pixel you know.

>>4311876
>i am a real person and people who dont like this camera are fake people
And you autists wonder why larp camera fanboys get bullied

>>4309686
What's wrong with the 20-35mm?
Not enough range?

>>4312604
Notoriously a soft lens. Not worth what you can get for the same price with nicer lenses

>>4312604
You mean besides the fl range? It’s such a meme lol. Why is everyone making these super weird seemingly pointless “lite” zooms? Canon put out a 24-50, sigma has the old 24-35, are they normie fodder?

>>4311824
I'm kind of leaning towards the Z8 just because it's the second-newest camera in their lineup and the ZF has a fairly deprecated sensor. So does the Z8, but i can live with that for the megapixels and insane stacked sensor performance. I usually make cameras last at least 8 to 10 years, so $3500 ain't too bad.

I might also yolo and get a canon r6 ii instead, though. Feeling spunky.

OP here I'm glad I ordered the 20mm 1.8 when I did, it arrived just in time for the Northern Lights last weekend.
>>4309260
The 1.8 came in handy for sure. If I had just used my 10-20 f4 lens it would not have looked this great

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I'm a bandwagon iPhone phototaker going down the Fujifilm rabbit hole.

First about to buy the Fujifilm XV100, didn't so almost ordered a Ricoh griii hdf, kept going and looking at Olympus Pen F, nope. Now I am at Sigma fp.

now considering Nikon d70s, for ccd

Where does this stop? :o
Where does this path finally end?

By just considering buying and then not, you’re already two steps ahead of most gearheads. Good job keep it up.

Buy a Nikon Z6II+26mm f2.8 and install capture one

It'll continue until you find the camera that fits you the best.<br>The hobbyist life is a costly endeavour.

>>4310724
I have a D80 CCD and had a D90 CMOS. the difference is negligible desu, both have Sony sensors. maybe get a Kodak CCD like an Epson RD1(s) or Leica M8.
but out of practicality, if you need those dedicated buttons and maybe a viewfinder, just get any smol, lightweigt dedicated camera that you will bring most of the time with you.

>>4310815
smol, dedicated, lightweight?

omg no, I need a gf not a camera
Is this what this is!?

>>4310724
It ends when you decides it ends. I rediscovered a photo I took a couple year ago and I thought it was decent. Then I remembered my hating it because my camera is shitty and makes a bunch of grain. I tried to find some bullshit ai app to try to fix it but it didn't work. Now I like the roughness of it.

>>4311418
It actually ends when you have a very nice camera, and a very shit camera. The gulf between the two will make you appreciate each.

Don't fall for the film meme that just starts a whole other gearfaggotry quest full of cope because the sunk costs only grow and there are no refunds.

>>4310724
It never ends. You will eventually find something like >>4310799 said. But what happens then is that your style of shooting will change, or your hobbies outside photography will change, or your subject matter will change and then you'll start the whole process over again. It really never ends, learn to enjoy it and only buy what you can afford to lose 30% of your money on.

It's either that or start shooting film.

>>4311427
lets be real "normal" interchangeable lens cameras fit everything you could do perfectly well and it takes borderline schizophrenic neuroticism like "everyone can see my camera because it has a viewfinder bump and its ruining my shots and it looks so much bigger on pxlmag" to convince yourself otherwise

cANON

>>4310815
>a Kodak CCD like an Epson RD1(s)
I thought the R-D1 used the same Sony-made sensor as the Nikon D100 and the Pentax istD.