Discussion Thread: Couples Therapy episode 3, "New Couple Controversy'
Although two episodes have already aired without them, Jon and his girlfriend Liz make their first official appearance on the popular VH1 reality show tonight. Check local listings.
Meanwhile, the fallout continues from the twins awkward and uncomfortable appearance on Today yesterday
Watch Access Hollywood's excellent panel discussion on the debacle. They get it.
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Jon's statement made me tear up. Thank goodness the children have Jon. There is no redemption for their mother.
At the end of the day we can go around and around but I don't care who he has slept with or what mistakes he has made, the point for me is he understands what they are going through with Kate, he gets it, and that is really the most important thing now. Their biggest problem is Kate, not any of this other nonsense. That's what's going to cost them thousands of dollars in therapy, not some girlfriend who was nice to them five years ago their dad never ended up marrying. To have their own father get it on such a deep level for such a long time is a godsend for them. They are very lucky. Some people dealing with a mom like Kate don't have a dad involved at all or their dad enables her or is just as bad. When he said he would just hug them and ask about school that said it all. He doesn't need to bombard them about what happened, he just wants them to be able to breathe, relax, and feel his love.
localyocul said...
AND notice he talked about texting them and seeing them on their custody day next week. The Jon haters act as if the girls have no relationship with him.
NJGal51 said...
RIP Dave Madden. I always liked him as Reuben Kincaid on The Partridge family.
Admin I agree with your comment. No matter how douchie Jon may act at times at the end of the day Jon seems to be a good dad who loves and cares about his kids. His comment about just giving them a hug said it all.
I think SNL will have a field day with the Today interview.
kids first said...
The timing of this show with the events of today is Karma, Sweet Karma.
See I doubt the View is going to go THAT much better. It can't possibly get any worse but they're not going to get it together in 48 hours and be camera ready. Or maybe it was filmed today so they're coming off this interview, tired, feeling like they blew it.
If anything it might be even harder for them because they KNOW they bombed on this and so that must make them feel even MORE pressure to get it together. Sort of like how sometimes you choke knowing this is your LAST CHANCE. And for them all the worse because it's their last chance under penalty of severeness.
I personally think that there was a script they'd practiced, but the interviewer didn't follow it precisely, and it through them off
Yes, you know what it felt like? It felt like an oral exam in Spanish and you've practiced and rehearsed and expected the teacher to say certain things and then suddenly she starts asking you something completely different, and you're just like oh crap wait what?
Although I still maintain that Cara STARTED that interview knowing hands down she was NOT going to say a darn word. She wasn't sitting their poised to answer then thrown off....that was more Mady.
ncgirl said...
Michael K from the website Dlisted skewers celebrities regularly.
Here's his take on Kate's latest: He's very cutting:
http://dlisted.com/2014/01/16/when-pimping-out-your-teenage-kids-on-tv-goes-wrong/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
Remona Blue said... 15
Carole said... 196
''When or where did Jon say he just had cable installed? I really don't care whether he has it or not, and if he just moved it may have already been in the new house,etc., but I just re-listened to the TMZ interview and all he said was that he watched it live - which could have been accomplished via number of different media. Just wondering what I missed and where. Thanks!''
Carole, I also just finished watching the TMZ interview and the word cable was NOT mentioned by Jon. Perhaps the person who heard Jon say he and Liz watched it live thinks that the only way that could happen would be if he had cable, not realizing that there are other ways to watch the show live?
I think he talked about getting the cable hooked up during the Wendy Williams interview when he talked about moving in to the new house bn
Ugh I hate to say it but this thing is PERFECT for SNL. I would NOT be surprised.
Those poor, poor, poor girls.
I have to say I am both relieved and happy that no one seems to be blaming these girls (except maybe the sheeple.) No one is saying what the heck why couldn't they get it together grow up!! Everyone is blaming their mother, and that is so right and so awesome. Yea for people who GET IT!
I also did not feel a "nervous" vibe at all. They weren't sitting on the couch uncomfortable, or freaked out by the cameras. This had everything to do with the girls refusing, either intentionally or because they unintentionally choked, to do Kate's bidding.
As others have said so many times today, I'm so proud of them. So proud.
Rhymes with Witch said...
And for them all the worse because it's their last chance under penalty of severeness. 3
I'm thinking that "penalty of severeness" is happying them up aka making them tow the line.
I hope they don't get forced to be on The View.
What does she care?
She doesn't care also because she has a personality disorder such that any attention is good attention even vile attention. The girls I don't think have any such personality disorder. They are normal girls who would probably react to the massive firestorm as any normal person would, shocked and horrified and wanting to crawl under a rock. Because Kate would never react that way but probably actually loves the attention, she doesn't understand that whatsoever.
Jon was shocked and horrified because he is a normal person who reacts to things in a normal manner.
Virginia Pen Mom said...
Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8 40s
I'm SO proud of my girls...we had a great trip to NYC together. Did a couple of interviews, shopped, dined, bonded etc. #biggirlfun #homenow
So there you have it. A COUPLE of interviews today. Eeesh.
JoyinVirginia said...
As someone who lives in a rural wooded area, I can pick up a lot of broadcast channels on my small TV in the kitchen with a digital antenna that I picked up for $25 at Lowes and connected myself.
Berks Neighbor said...
The Sheeple have to say the kids were nervous (translation: "It's the twins' fault that this interview was a failure). Otherwise they would have to admit that their idol TFW had made a grave error putting those girls on display for public consumption.
It's a sickness with the Sheeple. The fact that they can blame the kids for this is the epitome of "up the Butt" syndrome.
FlimsyFlamsy said...
The word to me that separates Jon from TFW is tenderness. For him to hurt at the thought of his daughters hurting, and wanting to reach out to them, when their mother sat beside them glowering, speaks volumes. TFW's been a teenage girl -- she knows what a fragile time that is. But their dad, who's never been one, is the one who's aching for them. Bless their sweet hearts.
FYI said...
Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8 7m
Perhaps they did the View interview today. Doesn't the View tape an additional show on Thursday that usually airs on Friday? Or perhaps, they taped their segment for Monday rather than going live after the debacle of today.
Susan1956 said...
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I think that person was me. WW asked Jon during her interview if they had hooked up their cable yet, he said no and that it was probably a good thing since they had just moved and were unpacking still (paraphrasing here).
So when he said he and Liz had watched the Today Show this morning I just assumed he had gotten the cable hooked up. I can't keep up with all this newfangled technology and all the different was you can watch TV and movies now. Sorry for the confusion.
Ex Nurse said...
This was definitely not one of TFW 's zero dirty look days!
Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8 21m
Catch that? Home now? Hmm.....
OrangeCrusher1 said...
Well, Extra just hung her out to dry, showed a clip and had nothing good to say about the best mother in the world. "Mady, your words." DH said sounds like our daughter with her 3 year old.
PA Dutch Mom said...
I wasn't planning on watching CT, but I turned it on to see them arrive, IF they were going to be on this episode.
I'm going to say this, and then I'll run away before I can be flamed. I am not, so far, impressed with Liz. She chews like Kate, she was wearing a hoodie and ripped jeans, and her language is, well...
At least she could have combed her hair and changed into different clothing...nothing designer or pretentious, but clean. She looked dirty and unkempt. Here, in this neck of the woods, we say dreckig.
She may be a wonderful person, kind, a good mother, but I'm just not sure about that one. At least there was no hooker clothing or the flashing of "the girls." I'll say that in her favor.
Instead of TFW sitting between the twins, being all proud mommy like, wouldn't it have worked better if she sat closest to the interviewer? Since she was going to do all the talking anyway??
She should have sat first, then the two girls nexg to her. The two girls would have been next to each and wouldn't have had to talk across TFW like that. They could have sat behind her and done the Deanna bobble head act....just nodding along with whatever TFW said.
Although I don't think they would have nodded. They would have clung to each other, looking at the floor, hoping to be swallowed up.
Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8 7m
Does anyone buy it was all happy happy hunky doorey? Please, she was pissed at them and I'm sure gave them what for. I hope not but knowing Kate how can she just let this go? I cannot picture Kate saying oh it's fine girls Mom understand being on TV is hard don't WORRY! I just can't picture it.
So wonder how the View went, sounds like they went straight there.
canadianmom1 said...
Kate just tweeted that her and the girls "did a couple of interviews today"... I'm thinking that they may have done a taped one (the View?) BEFORE this live one and the girls didn't "perform" to Kate's standards so she berated and scolded them. By the time they showed up to this one the girls, especially Cara, thought "SCREW YOU!" and this was their way of rebelling.
She is just going to play the happy card isn't she? Shopped! Dined! Bonded! Maybe she did that with Steve, 'cuz no one who saw her face after the interview is going to believe she and the girls were warm and cuddly the rest of the day. @17 is absolutely correct - there is no tenderness with her.
swimgirl said...
I don't think that TFW understands that no one is criticizing the girls. They are criticizing her! We feel sorry for these beautiful, normal teenagers. I have a daughter whose 13 and they can be so fragile and need all the protection a mother can give. Thank God for Jon!
chefsummer #Leh said...
I they I hope the girls kept quite again. And no one with a brain is buying her happy happy bull crap fart rainbows.
Hollywood Life has an article with take from a child psychologist regarding this interview. This is what the doctor says:
"Kate's parenting priorities seemed totally out of whack during the interview.
The girls were clearly nervous, it seemed as though they forgot what they were supposed to say. But a parent's job is to protect their child and if your child is on TV and uncomfortable then she should have assured them or stopped the interview," Dr. Gottesfeld says. "Mom had an agenda to get her message across and she was using her kids to do that."
And when the girls didn't meet Kate's expectations, she made things even worse for them.
"If this was a normal situation, what you do is reassure them or take the pressure off them but Kate kept pushing them to say what had been practiced," Dr. Gottesfeld says. "As 13-year-old kids, they're in a bind there — on one hand they want to please mom, on the other hand they might not agree with what mom is saying. You see kids who wanted to please her or unconsciously had an issue with being on there."
http://hollywoodlife.com/2014/01/16/kate-gosselin-daughters-today-show-interview/
Sleepless In Seattle said...
Leslie Nichol @leslienicholg 7m
@Kateplusmy8 I know that I wouldn't have been able to do what your beautiful girls did at 13, you should be proud!
You couldn't have sat on a couch, not saying a word?
RIP Russell Johnson, 89, the Professor on Gilligan's Island.
Just read the dlisted article and it is so funny. Warning, don't eat or drink anything when reading it.
"If this was a normal situation, what you do is reassure them or take the pressure off them but Kate kept pushing them to say what had been practiced," Dr. Gottesfeld says. "
I really appreciate the mental health experts weighing in although honestly does it take a psychologist to know this was so f-uped? Sheesh.
Of course Kate should have put their arms around them, said it's ok girls being on live TV is hard, and then switched the interview over to more neutral topics and taken the heat off THEM. That's what any good mother does and you don't need a degree to do it.
Jon'sWinning said...
Please people don't attack the kids. It's out of line. And makes the rest of us look bad.
SchmeckyGirl @SchmeckyGirl2 1h
@nancivs @Tink1214 @BarbaraJean_s @Kateplusmy8 If you'd never seen Cara before you would think something was wrong with her. Hard to watch.
PJ's momma said...
I just looked and The View tapes Mon-Thu. I went to an Ellen taping once, and it was for a Friday show, taped on Thursday. That evening, they were taping the Monday show. That's why you'll hear Ellen asking how everyone's weekend went, or how they enjoyed some event or holiday and everyone laughs - because it hasn't happened yet. Can't believe The View went through with it though. Surely someone saw the early interview, or at least heard about it. Sad.
sparkle said...
As I read the comments from many different sites, the same comments kept getting repeated over and over: good for the twins for standing up to their mother, how grown up and beautiful they are, Kate Gosselin is a narcissist and horrible mother, many people feared the girls later suffered verbal and physical punishment for not repeating the script and what the F did Kate do to her face? The most common thought was why doesn't Kate Gosselin go away? Who gives a sh*t about whatever the hell she wants to set straight today? No one cares.
She has realllyyyyy hit a nerve by dragging these girls into her hate campaign against their father. The public has been tolerant up until this point whenever Kate actually gets a tv appearance. She's mostly ignored and treated like the pesky fly that she is. By dragging the girls into this, she has unleashed the hounds from hell. It has warmed my heart to see so many commenters show concern and feel protective of the girls. To quote Kate, it's a "rare treat" to see so many fellow Americans actually agree on something. Heh heh.
kw said...
Why has Jon picked another woman who emasculates him? She treats him worse than Kate did. I am watching CT now and this woman is a complete mess. Yuck.
''Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8 40s
I'm SO proud of my girls...we had a great trip to NYC together. Did a couple of interviews, shopped, dined, bonded etc. #biggirlfun #homenow''
Good Grief. All I can say about that is that I'm praying that is what she REALLY thinks, and she didn't ''happy up'' the girls after the Today show!
LOL of COURSE she didn't expect this to happen sheeple. Duh. Hence the name "epic fail." You tried to do something and you failed miserably.
I think this just speaks to Kate's delusion. In her mind, she honest to God thought the girls would come across like this:
http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/215/091/1323488149757.jpg
And when she got catatonic instead, she was so flustered and taken aback she could barely function. I bet they had to wipe her up off the floor during the commercial break.
I feel bad for the girls but it never ceases to amaze me the fantasy TFW has of how things are going to go. Same with the lawsuit, the same fantasy.
njay said...
Zach Poldoian @ZachPoldoian 18m
@miloandjack I brought not 1, not 2; but 5 tabloid magazines of putting Kate down.
Now its going in the trash bin where it should belong.
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Wow, does she realize she gave money to those tabloids on Kate's behalf? hehehehee She seeps to fit right in with all the sheeple.
cathyn518 said...
Gosh, Jon why do you pair up with domineering woman? I am sorry to say this but Liz seems crude and did not impress me as having compassion for Jon.
Yup, these girls are ready for another tv show. They are totally comfortable in front of the camera. And that exclusive private school they attend doesn't sound like the education is any better than the public school down the street. Maddie uses "like" as much as Kate uses "um". It is probably a good thing they didn't say much.
AuntieAnn said...
I hope she enjoyed her last meal as a 'celebrity'.
#dontsaywedidntwarnyou
Intellectually challenged?
PatK said...
That must be it. The "second" interview was for The View. So she didn't get the whole weekend to drill it into the twins to not do that to her again. I still say the The View appearance will go off without a hitch. I'm sure she let them have it pretty good beforehand.
So when this huge media blitz (lol) is over, and the tv show offers don't materialize, what next? Too early for the sextuplets' "pre-teen" tour.
When you're piecing and patching, do you shop and dine in NYC where everything is so expensive?
Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said...
Well, I couldn't miss commenting on this train wreck.
Kate, I'd say you're NOT always in control and today it DID change.
Of course, but she can't do this because she has no compassionate bone in her body, let alone any sense of good parenting. Isn't this where narcissism comes into play? She was only thinking of herself and how the kids screwed up everything she had planned for them to say. She came off as being the cold fish that she is because that's the only way that she knows how to be.
Jon'sWinning said... 34
Agree with your first request, and I believe most (if not 100%) of the posters here would not dream of attacking the children. Disagree with your second sentence. It only makes the person who made the remark look bad.
I have to agree that Liz didn't come off very well on CT tonight. I wonder if Liz is on camera (foul mouth and all) is what TFMJG was off camera. I'm really interested to see how the therapist on CT deals w/Liz and her TFW-like behavior with Jon next week.
cathyn518 said... 41
I didn't watch this episode but I am interested in hearing from others what they think of Liz, and of Jon and Liz' relationship. No one can be as bad as Kate, but perhaps Jon's personality is drawn to the type of woman who might seem domineering and bossy. I mean, he did last 10 years or so with Kate! For many reasons, this type of relationship dynamic might actually be what he feels most comfortable with.
Anyway, I await further comments on the episode.
Over And Out said...
Berks said, "he fact that they can blame the kids for this is the epitome of "up the Butt" syndrome."
I'm surprised that Kate could even sit on that sofa. It's got to be painful.
getofftwitter said...
I think we are going to get a first hand look at what really went on in the Gosselin house, with Jon on CT. We are also going to find out why Jon picks women who are dominating. Or something from Jon's past, he does seem to keep things in. I also got the impression that Jon wants this relationship to go to the next step, as in marriage, and Liz is not ready for that. I think she said something to that effect.
This has backfired for Kate. Not as she had it planned. I think the girls, really thought about what they had said in People and possibly read some stuff online, behind mom back, probably some kids at school told them or showed them. Kate did make reference to the kids at school talking about them, twice now. And what she was coaching them to say, and maybe they felt bad, to dish dad. And since Dad did text them? after the interview, we will see what they say if anything on the View. Since Kate did not say which other interview the girls did, then yes, they possibly probably did the View filming for monday. Kate is a tool & a-hole.
SG said...
I agree with what you're saying, but I wasn't attacking her. That was in reply to someone that said they thought Cara was ret*****.
My point was that what Kate did to her daughter was so wrong, because now Cara is under scrutiny for sitting there mute with a blank, scared look in her face. I was commenting on the fact that some people thought there was something wrong with her and that's understandable if you don't know anything about her... I was not attacking Cara.
From DListed...this guy tells it like he sees it. No beating around the bush there:
"For the rest of the interview, Kate Gosselin did what she does best: talk out of her ass."
Lights Out time at Milo's house. She had a rough day. She went to bed, but not before getting in another jab at Jon:
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 34m
Well goodnite all. Let's see wasn't the dad supposed 2b on some #therapyshow 2nite? Looks like the TWINS stole his thunder!! #HotTopic :)
The fan who bought tabloids and threw them into the trash? That is the guy who has been snuggling up to Milo!
Zach Poldoian @ZachPoldoian 1h
@miloandjack I brought not 1, not 2; but 5 tabloid magazines of putting Kate down. Now its going in the trash bin where it should belong.
He bought 5 magazines, and IT'S going into the trash where IT belongs. Sure, he did.
As for Liz, I am not impressed either, but I'd like to see more of her before I give an opinion.
It seems to me that Liz has a lot of frustration over the fact that Jon allows Kate to call the shots in their relationship even now that they are divorced. (Or so it seems he does anyway.)
Of course this was while Jon was being sued by Kate. Hopefully now that Jon is free to speak his mind to anyone that will listen it won't be an issue.
Jon needs to find someone that respects him. And Liz needs to find someone that she feels she respects. Jon is passive. He doesn't like confrontation. Maybe Liz doesn't like that about him. I guess they really did need couples therapy like Jon said, and it's not about money. ?
Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said... 47
I was wondering if this was going to bring you out! Hey there!
I agree with the comments about Liz. She's definitely not what you'd call warm and comforting. Nice that the tv doctor called her out on showing Jon no compassion and discounting his feelings. Their first interview with the doc was coming off like a Jon & Kate couch interview.
It was sort of sad and sweet that Liz took Jon home the first night they met and was disappointed when he didn't want sex. He just wanted to sit and hug. A guy just desperately needing to be hugged. :(
I haven't watched but I know people passive like Jon including my dad. They do fine in relationships where the other person is in the driver's seat. They even seek it out. But to a point. It can't be to the point where you're being emotionally abused and manipulated, that's not what they are seeking. They are simply seeking a pilot to the plane. I think Kate saw how Jon was in relationships, preferring to the beta, preferring to be the one who doesn't have to take charge, and seized on it. Then she took it to a whole other absurd level that was quite frankly emotional abuse.
To clarify, my tweet was not in direct reply to the comment about Cara being ret*****. It was in reply to a conversation regarding that comment and all the replies were in Cara's defense.
I adore my dad and have nothing bad to say about him and my childhood was blessedly ideally, but I have never sought out a relationship where the man is that passive.
Let's see wasn't the dad supposed 2b on some #therapyshow unite?
Are we living in a parallel universe? Yes Milo and Kate like an idiot can't just let him sink on his own. She had to open her mouth, prove his point, and make some guy who prefers to pee in driveways look like father of the year for simply saying he just wants to hug his twins.
Millicent said... 51
''I didn't watch this episode but I am interested in hearing from others what they think of Liz, and of Jon and Liz' relationship. No one can be as bad as Kate, but perhaps Jon's personality is drawn to the type of woman who might seem domineering and bossy. I mean, he did last 10 years or so with Kate! For many reasons, this type of relationship dynamic might actually be what he feels most comfortable with.''
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Millicent, Liz was REALLY bad to Jon on CT tonight. A foul mouthed version of TFW. Your comment reminds me of women who go into one abusive relationship after another. Is it because that is what feels 'normal' to them?
Whatever the reason, I was really sad to see her talk to Jon that way, and hope that the therapist and the other couples confront her about it. Now that I think about it, I don't think the other couples heard the conversation. I hope not! Trust me, it was bad!
They are totally comfortable in front of the camera. And that exclusive private school they attend doesn't sound like the education is any better than the public school down the street. Maddie uses "like" as much as Kate uses "um".
Kids, unfortunately, have developed a language pattern that's hard to break, and it includes "like." It doesn't matter if it's a public school, private school, military academy, or top-notch university, it has nothing to do with academics/quality of education, and it drives teachers crazy.
I was listening to a Princeton grad being interviewed about a research project he was doing on forensics, and I had to turn it off. The "like" was making me like nuts.
Which is actually quite impressive given apparently her soul was falling out of it at the same time!
The View: Usually does live shows Mon thru Thurs and pretapes the Fri's show on Wed after the live show is complete. Since this Mon is MLK day, perhaps it was pretaped this afternoon due to the holiday weekend?
Couple's Therapy: I'm trying to reserve judgement until we see more, but I think it would be fair to say that (superficially speaking) Liz lacks err, um, (insert F word here) "refinement" (that was polite right? n'est pas?), and that Jon seems DESPERATE for love. It was kinda sad actually.
Admin: a big thank you to both you and the blog girls for all of your hard work today. The first dozen rumspringa's are on me!
Get outta here. Kate has a soul?
lol!...and with so many sheeple up there, it must have been a full barn!
Even my generation talks like this, though not quite as bad, and it really is very hard to break. I find myself falling into like, ya know, if I stop thinking about it especially if I'm excited or talking fast. I really hate it but I truly can't help it. Unless I constantly think about it, I will fall into it. I have friends who went to ivy league schools who speak like this. I can even pinpoint exactly when I remember kids suddenly started talking using like, sixth grade or so, we all picked it up and that was it. It is stupid and I'm sure kids today when they are my age will find it hard to break too. When I hear kids talking like that, it sounds as ridiculous as it is, and yet I do it.
One of the strongest forms of protest is silence.
Do not engage, just be silent.
It speaks wonders.
Good on them, the media is listening to their silence.
Susie Cincinnati said...
Just when I thought that I heard everything from Milo. She tweeted that it was Savannah's fault because she didn't start the interview by asking the right questions.
Wasn't that Kate's excuse on DWTS? It was Tony's fault because he didn't know how to teach her.
Is Milo really Kate?
I don't think the twins did say all that stuff that was quoted in People. TFW just said they said it.
(Although they probably did say some of it, at TFW's prompting. They also probably had no idea just exactly who Kate Coyne was, and how widely publicized their kidding around was going to be.)
That's why Mady couldn't regurgitate it. She didn't say it.
And it's why she was trying frantically to recall her memorized lines.
I almost felt sorry for Liz when she said that she felt that she was interchangeable with any other woman Jon might come across (paraphrasing). That he didn't love her specifically, just the idea of marriage.
And people say she has no talent. Baloney.
I didn't watch this episode but I am interested in hearing from others what they think of Liz, and of Jon and Liz' relationship. No one can be as bad as Kate, but perhaps Jon's personality is drawn to the type of woman who might seem domineering and bossy.
I was multi-tasking when I watched it, but I wouldn't cast Liz as the "bossy" type quite yet. She came across as more of a Broad vs. Lady, and while Jon was still displaying the passive behavior that we have seen from him before, I wouldn't necessarily say that she was domineering either- more like she was not going to tolerate BS. She clearly did not want to be there, and it seemed like she was doing it out of love for him, (and she must know that he could use both the money & the opportunity to tell his side). Overall it wasn't a great introduction to the mass media, but it was not a total train wreck either.
They went home together their first night (after drinking at a bar), but did not have sex (Liz's wanted to), because Jon just wanted to hug on the couch instead.
Jon wants to get married. Liz doesn't.
Kate hates Liz, and Liz seems tired of dealing with all the drama.
Liz doesn't like it when Jon plays victim, and Jon basically doesn't want to deal...He is still so eager to please, that I worry that he will continue to be take advantage of, but strangely I don't worry that it will be by Liz. She may be crass, but I think she is kind (hopefully, fingers and toes crossed), and genuinely cares about him.
She loves those kids, (thank you baby jeezbus!) and her face totally lit up when another cast member mentioned one of the boys.
Not anymore!
Yes Milo and they're trending but not in a good way. Your idol is being hung out to dry and being shown for the asshat that she is. Yup, they sure stole Jon's thunder.
I think that if they filmed the View today that it probably went better than this morning because I'm sure that TFW happied them up and laid down the law. If it didn't go well she will probably refuse to let them use it. If on the View both girls will claim stage fright.
Yupe Kate and the twins will be on the view on Monday I check ugh..
And Kate has a soul since when??
T said... 74
''.......She loves those kids, (thank you baby jeezbus!) and her face totally lit up when another cast member mentioned one of the boys.''
T, I think that maybe your comments are more accurate than mine. I was just SO upset to hear Liz call him a pussy, and maybe I freaked out! I totally agree that her face lit up when the boy was mentioned. I'll watch it again, and I bet I see it from your point of view the second time!
That is why this blog is so great...it so often causes me to stop and think and see things differently!
Bringing this from last post because its such a great idea!
The best comment on the gawker article: " just add Octomom and Jessica Lange and the next season of American Horror Story will write itself!"
That is saying a lot! Since this season we have had killer vaginas, zombie boyfriends, ghostly ax murderers, minotaurs, Kathy Bates and Gabourey Sidibe bonding over Roots and late night drive thrus, Stevie Nicks, alligators, Papa Legba, Angela Bassett and Jessica Lange feasting on scenery, witch hunters, murder by bees, creepy doll collections, Bible thumping neighbors... Oh my goodness, I will miss this show! only three more episodes!
Next year: American Horror Story: Octomom and Kate Plus Sharknado! Tagline: no one will survive!
As predicted, the super fans come to TFW with nonsense comparisons to their own lives, and their kids' lives. You know why those comparisons don't work? Because they did not happen on live TV, in front of millions of people, and recorded for posterity.
Exactly, it's so annoying. Forgetting your lines in the school play in front of 180 of your friends is not the same as choking in front of 3 million viewers or whatever their ratings are and then having the internet ablaze where 20 million other people read about it on buzz feed. In fact so many people saw this today, I can't even comprehend it. I don't understand millions of people. It's so many it's too many to grasp.
Meagler said...
W.O.W!
#whattaday
#passthepopcornthishasonlyjustbegun
#weonlyknowafractionofthestory
#theviewmightgetoneofthiermostwatchedshows!
Kate is the one who is so freaking frustrated about it. she is the one who does all the talking..
She's forced to talk to the girls about it?? Uh no Kate, you say to the girls.." It doesnt matter what people say about us, we know its not true, and your daddy loves you very much. The tabloids dont tell the truth. We both love you very much. Now what should we have for supper?"
Thats what a mentally stable mother would say.....
Whether intentional or not, today's sullen silent interview makes these two CHILDREN absolute HEROES in my book, (and I suspect many of yours as well). Certainly, there will be both a public and private price to pay, but their sacrifice today may be what finally saves the future of all of the Gosselin children and (possibly even their parents).
Agree 100%. They took one for the team. I just can't imagine this can continue much longer. It's not even a matter of shows reluctant to book them because they say awkward things or are not good at interviews. They didn't even TALK. It's almost better to talk and be bad than just sit there. If there is one thing shows don't want it's dead air. The twins created dead air, which is about the worst thing you could ever, ever do to a live show--and it was career suicide (intentionally, I think.)
I was multi-tasking when I watched it, but I wouldn't cast Liz as the "bossy" type quite yet. She came across as more of a Broad vs. Lady, and while Jon was still displaying the passive behavior that we have seen from him before, I wouldn't necessarily say that she was domineering either- more like she was not going to tolerate BS.
T - thank you for your summation of CT. We don't get the program here.
I can easily understand why Liz is having a difficult time dealing with Kate's hatred towards her and I'm glad to hear she doesn't tolerate the BS. We saw what she was like as a wife, but she must be a hundred times as miserable as an ex-wife. If Liz won't put up with it, it probably incites Kate to really make life miserable for Jon and her.
One thing though, I have never quite agreed with the idea that Jon is passive. Maybe he's just polite. I think he is the result of being raised with good manners and respect for other people. He probably has common sense too, but being married to Kate and knowing how she is, I can easily see how she could have lured him away from using it.
That's only my opinion.
And I wish armchair psychology paid better ;o)
Starz22 said...
Admin # 60
Well said! My brother can fall into that definition.
As for the Today show... OMFG like others here have said, Epic Fail.
I don't think the twins planned this. All of those kids walk on eggshells around her. They never know when or what might set her off. None of them want that. I'm sure the twins got berated and told how they fucked up getting a new show and how THEY made her look like shit.
So they better happy the hell up and make her look like Mother Teresa on the View OR else! I bet they are on punishment big time.
We've all seen how TFW loses it and goes off. Theres no...you made me mad,I'm taking your I-pod and your grounded. It's omg how the hell could you do this to me. I thought you loved me! You are spoiled rotten brats and your gonna pay for this. We are going to lose the house and everything because of what you did! (being screamed at for an hour)
So there is no way I can believe they did this on purpose.
As for Jon speaking out? I've always said it's great he can finally speak out. The media has called him a dead beat loser for years. Have you noticed since the tide is slowly starting to change...Jon seems less angry and more composed? Could you imagine how he must have felt all these years? Put yourself in his shoes...you have your ex saying nothing but bad about you....the media going along with it and you cant say shit? You cant tell me this wouldn't bother you....you would want a chance to say Hey! I'm not an asshole loser.
As for the View...I agree with others. The twins will be flying out of their chairs with over done enthusiasm. All to escape mommys rath.
Yes Robert! This is the time to release the book.
"Use your words" is what my granddaughter says to her 3-year old when he's struggling. I can't imagine telling 13-year old girls that. How demeaning. Can't you just hear their classmates teasing?
Kate's "severeness" will be legendary.
Carole, I also just finished watching the TMZ interview and the word cable was NOT mentioned by Jon.
Thanks Remona Blue. I thought I had missed an interview or something!
MamaKnows said...
Twitter was brutal to Liz tonight. Many tweets basically calling her a low class version of Kate and wondering why Jon picks domineering women. I haven't seen the show and likely will not, but went to Twitter to check out what was being said.
Backstage after the disastrous non-chat, Kate let the girls have it, says our source.
"She went type-A crazy," says our insider. "She was upset that they had a chance to speak for themselves and defend her and they blew it. She told them, 'You embarrassed mommy,' and some people heard. She was not happy."
After leaving, Kate jumped into damage-control mode, tweeting, "Thanks to @TODAYshow for having Cara, Mady and me on the show today! 1st live interview can render even the gabbiest girls speechless :)"
She followed that up with another, writing, "@Boosterdude no damage done. They wanted to do interview with me, I said 'go for it' #morelifeopportunities #proudmomnomatterwhat."
But it was clear Wednesday that Kate had wanted the girls to shine, tweeting "Cara & Mady are SO honored to be on @TODAYshow tomorrow morning, talking all stuff 'teenager' (while I'm thinking stop growing up SO fast!)"
The girls' father, Jon, chimed in, telling "Inside Edition" Thursday that he blames his ex for what happened. "Definitely. Someone has to sign the paperwork for them to go on television. It wasn't me. They're minors … You put our kids into a situation that they were not prepared for at all. They weren't allowed to be themselves."
Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/gossip/confidential/kate-irate-twins-mute-article-1.1582446#ixzz2qdxUc4Sx
Greedy Gosselins said...
It's almost better to talk and be bad than just sit there.???????????
No. It's better to keep your mouth closed and risk looking silly than opening it and remove all doubt. The girls did fine.
Is it true that in the preview for next week's CT, Liz walks in on Jon 'pleasing himself' in a room he KNEW was full of cameras?? Nice.
Those G kids are going to need SO much therapy in their lives. I hope they get it and start soon.
(Leslie)
Admin. you wrote after the interview that you thought it was on purpose that the girls did not speak. And I agree with you. First, we know Kate was lying about them being caught off guard and having stage fright. That cannot be the problem. They have had cameras on them probably more than any other 13 year in the world. And they have talked and given interviews before. If they wanted to talk, they would have. If they wanted to talk, they would have talked and sounded nervous and maybe mixed up a few of their words. But they didn't talk at all (except Mady a tiny bit). That is the hugh difference.
I agree with TMZ and Jon and you. They did not want to go on tv and lie and made a pact not to talk. Mady only wants to film because she is an actress and a ham. That is not to say the other 7 want to film. I think Mady may have had some influence over Cara saying she wants to film also now. But we all saw how sad Cara was when she was filmed for years and years. But the girls were TOTALLY against talking bad about their father and wanted nothing to do with it.
Jon made an excellent point that I am sure we all thought about. What were they there for? They said there peace in People magazine. Kate wanted the world to see them say their peace in front of a live audience to proof that it was THEIR words and they didn't want to say it. It backfired on her big time.
In the twins ignorance and Mother's influence, they want to film again. Mady is influencing Cara in that department. But I think both have had it with being used on national tv. And finally, finally it backfired for once that the world saw what we have all known. Kate is a user, destroyer, and a liar.
And yes, I bet they did the View (not live of course) and they will be more talkative then ever. But I think the world already knows the truth. And I think the world will hate he even more for going on the View with the twins. She WILL NEVER stop period.
http://drlillianglassbodylanguageblog.wordpress.com/2014/01/17/body-language-and-silence-of-gosselin-twins-reflect-anger-at-mom-as-kate-is-enraged/
LOL, as I was reading down the page, I was thinking, "I wish Tweet-le was here to comment on this disaster!"
I just noticed something. The People magazine cover contained the words "growing up Gosselin" just like the big splashy board behind the girls on Today. I'm putting money on it: that is definitely the show title Kate has chosen for the new reality show she's pushing. I bet Kate insisted as part of her contract for the interviews that those words be prominently included.
I said not too long ago that I thought she was angling for a show called "Growing Up Gosselin" to be patterned after "Keeping up with the Kardashians." I thought she would choose that title because it has alliteration like the Kardashian title. Kate would view it as catchy.
Let's see if the View displays it somewhere. I'm betting yes. Kate has greedy eyes for all the money Mama Kardashian has made off her kids. It's not happening, Kate.
Just getting a glimpse of the conniving and greed behind Kate's designs is chilling. She has NO maternal instincts. Throw Jon under the bus, showcase her daughters for their "new" reality show, and prove what a wonderful mom she is--all in one swoop! That was the plan. How fabulous that it bombed with such a massive explosion!
TFW is abusive said...
Can you even imagine being a 13 year old girl and subjected to this? Nice job, TFW!
Kate Gosselin: Spotlight has caused kids 'no injury'
http://www.today.com/video/today/54087006/#54087006
Mute Gosselin Twins
http://q108.com/cc/mute-gosselin-twins/
Discuss: Kate Gosselin: Twin daughters are 'really regular' teens
http://moms.today.com/_news/2014/01/16/22324993-kate-gosselin-twin-daughters-are-really-regular-teens?d=1
Gosselin girls go silent on whether they're doing OK, let mom Kate do the talking
http://www.today.com/moms/kate-gosselin-twin-daughters-are-really-regular-teens-2D11940194
Kate Gosselin Twins HUMILIATE Her on Live TV
http://www.tmz.com/2014/01/16/kate-gosselin-children-awkward-tv-interview-today-show/
WATCH: Kate Gosselin, 2 Daughters Give Awkward TV Show Interview
http://www.phillymag.com/news/2014/01/16/watch-kate-gosselin-2-daughters-give-awkward-tv-show-interview/#.UtgZXpP2P6w.twitter
The Gosselin Twins Get Revenge On Kate During Live Interview, Mutiny Seems Imminent
http://www.crushable.com/2014/01/16/entertainment/mady-cara-gosselin-today-show-interview/#ixzz2qaJPtnjF
Kate Gosselin's daughters freeze up on 'Today' show
http://pagesix.com/2014/01/16/kate-gosselins-daughters-freeze-up-on-today-show/?utm_campaign=SocialFlow&utm_source=P6Twitter&utm_medium=SocialFlow
VIDEO: Kate Gosselin Scolds Twins During Today Show Interview for Not Talking: "Spit It Out"
http://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/kate-gosselin-scolds-twins-during-today-show-interview-for-not-talking-spit-it-out-2014161
Parent Or Puppeteer? Kate Gosselin Does Most Of The Talking For Twin Teens In Uncomfortable 'TODAY' Interview
http://radaronline.com/exclusives/2014/01/parent-or-puppeteer-kate-gosselin-does-most-of-the-talking-for-twin-teens-in-uncomfortable-today-interview/
Gosselin Twins Diss Kate Gosselin On 'Today' Show: Watch Awkward Video
http://hollywoodlife.com/2014/01/16/gosselin-twins-awkward-interview-today-kate-gosselin-normal-teens/
Revealed: What REALLY Happened Off Camera At 'TODAY', As 'Furious' Kate Gosselin 'Rolled Her Eyes' In Anger At Twins After Humiliating Interview
http://radaronline.com/2014/01/revealed-what-really-happened-off-camera-at-today-as-furious-kate-gosselin-rolled-her-eyes-in-anger-at-twins-after-humiliating-interview/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
When Pimping Out Your Teenage Kids On TV Goes Wrong
http://dlisted.com/2014/01/16/when-pimping-out-your-teenage-kids-on-tv-goes-wrong/
Jon Gosselin Kate Put Our Kids in 'Horrible' Situation
http://www.tmz.com/2014/01/16/jon-gosselin-kate-kids-today-show/
Gosselin Kid Strikes Back at Her Mom With a Silent, Riveting Interview
http://gawker.com/gosselin-kid-strikes-back-at-her-mom-with-a-silent-riv-1502665703
Kate Gosselin's Children Were 'Emotionally Intimidated' On 'Today'
http://hollywoodlife.com/2014/01/16/kate-gosselins-children-are-emotionally-intimidated-on-today-show/
Gosselin Twins Go Silent In Awkward TV Interview
http://www.etonline.com/tv/142588_Gosselin_Twins_Go_Silent_In_Awkward_TV_Interview/index.html
Sylvia Lafair (Link no longer working - did she change her mind and kill the article?)
http://www.examiner.com/article/through-the-gosselin-looking-glass
Kate Gosselin's twins go silent on 'Today'
http://www.cnn.com/2014/01/16/showbiz/tv/kate-gosselin-awkward-interview-mady-cara/
Jon Gosselin: Kate Gosselin Was 'F***ing Horrible' On 'Today' Show
http://hollywoodlife.com/2014/01/16/jon-gosselin-response-kate-gosselin-today-show-interview-cara-mady/
'Spit it out': Kate Gosselin suffers VERY awkward moment on live TV when her twins Mady and Cara clam up on subject of family welfare
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2540761/Spit-Kate-Gosselin-suffers-VERY-awkward-moment-live-TV-twins-Mady-Cara-clam-up.html
Watch Kate Gosselin's Twins Embarrass Her on Live TV
http://www.extratv.com/2014/01/16/kate-gosselin-s-twins-embarrass-her-on-live-tv-see-today-show-video/
Kate Gosselin Chides Twins Mady & Cara For Clamming Up On Today Show
http://www.accesshollywood.com/kate-gosselin-chides-twins-mady-and-cara-for-clamming-up-on-today-show_article_88955
Kate Gosselin's Teenage Daughters Give Awkward 'Today' Interview
http://www.insideedition.com/entertainment/7636-kate-gosselins-teenage-daughters-give-awkward-today-interview
And I'll bet the girls knew darn well Kate was pushing a new reality show featuring them. That's why they went silent (that and to protect their dad.) "You can make us come, but you can't make us talk."
And Kate Coyne stuck that phrase in the People article about the girls having "Kardiashian style hair." Kate made sure they had that style of hair and that her buddy Coyne mentioned it.
Kate's just been counting the days until these girls were teenagers so she could promote this. The dating show didn't work, but she's going to get rich-rich-rich off her teenagers displaying their issues for a worldwide audience. So she thinks. I loathe this woman.
Her mistake was this: you can force a toddler to get in front of a camera and just be a toddler. You cannot force a teenager to conform to your will. That article calling yesterday a mutiny had it right!
Katykat said...
If the View was pre-taped. I wonder how many retakes and how much editing it took for the twins to get Kate's script right? And does it matter for Kate if they do get it right? They will be forever remembered as "Being Silent" on national tv. Kind of like George Brett. Remebered for Pine Tar and hemorroids. I bet Kate can relate to being a hemrroid.
What an absolutely horrible mother she is.
Layla said...
Does anyone know for sure whether the View was taped already, or if it is live? Someone said above that Friday's show is taped the Wednesday before, so maybe they already taped Monday's show yesterday. Or not?
If so, and the girls were in some kind of mood (angry, sad, afraid), then it would probably have carried over to the View taping.
What worries me is, if they are intimidated by one person interviewing then, then how are they going to do with 5 people asking questions? Seems like they'd get flustered. And if they were nervous about the show being live, then what is it going to be like to be interviewed in front of a live audience? And they would already have to be dealing with their performance on Today, plus TFW's anger at them for not performing as she wanted. And of course, there would be the prepared lies that they were clearly uncomfortable repeating.
The View interview could end up being traumatic for them, if they are nervous or afraid or struggling with what TFW wanted them to say. Add fear of their mother's wrath, fear of not performing well, and a live audience to what could have been some nervousness, and this is a train wreck.
Let's hope the people at the View make good decisions with regards to putting the girls through this, because TFW will not. I hope they think about the twins' well-being and not just about the train wreck factor and ratings.
This is from the NY Daily News:
Mama Gosselin spoke for the remainder of the sit-down, with a scared-looking Mady piping in with just a few words. Apparently that wasn't good enough.
They also say "NBC refused to comment when reached."
http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/gossip/confidential/kate-irate-twins-mute-article-1.1582446#ixzz2qejx5hiG
capecodmama said...
T...74
Thanks for the low down on CT with Jon and Liz. I don't watch the show but appreciate knowing what happened.
Kate Gosselin's girls clam up on camera, Kate sneers 'it's your chance, spit it out'
http://www.celebitchy.com/344616/kate_gosselins_daughters_clam_up_on_camera_kate_sneers_its_your_chance_spit_it_out_/
And for the record when I refer to her as TFW I'm thinking "The Fu€k Wad". But that's just the Jersey in me.
F^%$k yeah!! :) Love it!
I can't get over how this has gone "viral", so to speak. This is not about a new show, setting the record straight, giving the twins a pseudo debutante party...this is about an abuser being exposed,, finally. It's as though it HAD to happen, karma at it's finest. She was "liked" (as many of us here can vouch for) on this huge global scale, she had to be exposed on a huge global scale. And all on her own, no book, no Jon, no insider stories...SHE and SHE alone (hear us POS? YOU) did this.
And if they had to do the View shortly after Today, THEIR script/questions HAD to have been modified. The twitter world was on fire seconds after the debacle. I am very curious how it was done.
It SHOULD air, more evidence for Jon to take to family court. These kids are "special" and have a different set of "rulings" since they've been in the industry. He needs to show that they cannot be obligated to "perform" like the trained monkeys she thinks they are
Oh, and Happy Friday! ;-)
RonnieandMaggie said...
Again Robert was right. He warned everyone last week not to be mad at the twins. He must have known whatever they would say would be twisted and edited to the satisfaction of mommy dearest. Didn't he also say that he has a picture of the twins on his desk to remind him why he does what he does? Very telling
gotyournumberKate said...
I just listened to Jon's interview on TMZ. I could hear the genuine pain in his voice. He felt devastated for his daughters. Jon knows his children better than anyone and he nailed it as far as what happened to them and how Kate was behind it. My heart aches for him and all of his children.
I'm highly suspicious of the party line "guess what, we're fine. We're not damaged. We want to do another show, it was fun."
Have some or several potential producers expressed to Kate that they are not interested in doing a show with her because they fear more damage to the kids?
Reality shows are just awesome. The TLC show "Cheer Perfection" had two of of it's participants arrested this week, one day after the other. One of the cheer mothers featured on the show was arrested for raping a 13 year old boy. The next day, the husband of the cheer gym owner was for sitting in a car at 1 am smoking dope with a male cheer coach from the gym. While these things may have happened even without being on a reality show, now the entire country knows their business rather than just their small community. I also read that on TLCs Strange Addiction show, they featured a woman who loves to smell and eat baby diapers. This is the type of trash that TFW is clamoring and drooling to get back to. Wow.
TFW went "Type A" personality bat-sh*t crazy after the interview yesterday.
http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/gossip/confidential/kate-irate-twins-mute-article-1.1582446
"She went type-A crazy," says our insider. "She was upset that they had a chance to speak for themselves and defend her and they blew it. She told them, 'You embarrassed mommy,' and some people heard. She was not happy."
Milo thinks the twins stole Jon's thunder-I agree with that. But what Milo's not saying is that the twins also revealed TFW for the monster she really is, and made Jon look like the better parent because of it.
It sounds to me like the People interview wasn't really a question-and-answer interview. I think Kate Coyne spent a long period of time talking to them, and then "pieced and patched" together an article that sounded the way she and TFW wanted it to sound. It was interesting that, in the article, after the talk about Jon's girlfriends, it said that the girls fell silent. Did they feel bad about saying those things about their father? The comments came across as contemptuous (toward Jon) in the article, but the silence at the end made me think that they said what they were told to say, but they felt guilty for doing that to their dad. And perhaps, on Today, they just couldn't bring themselves to do that.
TFW must be furious that she didn't get a whole weekend in NYC out of this. The Today show pays for plane tickets, transportation (to/from the airport, hotel, and studio) and one night in a hotel, but they do not pay guests. I wonder if the View pays their guests, especially since they didn't have to pay any hotel or transportation costs. If so, it is probably not much. Guests are only on for a short time. I would think that only long/main interviews, like on Oprah or Katie Couric, would be paid interviews. TFW and the girls were not the main interview on either show.
And so help me God, if she dares utter the word "BULLYING" I think I'll lose my SH%%!!
Hoosier Girl said...
Agree with everything you said.
I never thought I'd watch CT, but after that Today debacle, I decided to see what Kate is so afraid of ...
Honestly, I don't think it's going to be anything we haven't heard or discussed here ... and it won't be anything that changes the minds of her fans ... but the general public who only vaguely knows of J&K+8 are probably going to hear some things about Kate that they didn't know before.
I imagine it's hard to be in a relationship with someone who was as beaten-down as Jon was for so many years. Add to that 11 kids, little money, and a hellish ex-wife - I might be a little irritable too :-)
I'm going to give Liz the benefit of the doubt as I continue to watch.
I was very happy to hear on Wendy that Liz and her ex have a good relationship. At least Jon's kids can see how divorced parents should act!
Dr. Lillian Glass' full blog/analysis of yesterday's interview:
Yup, that definitely how it went. She flies off the handle for minor inconsequential things, IN PUBLIC AND ON FILM. you don't think she "was not happy"?
And I believe what Jon said about "something else was to go down, and they made a MORAL decision to NOT speak"(paraphrasing)
tfw made sure to get "their father" in there, what REALLY were the twins programmed to say about him?
hmmm Very interesting
Dmasy said...
My sister, Annette is here in Texas with me. She is a Gosselin neophyte! Yesterday between tasks and appointments, she noticed me checking into the blog and asked, "What?"
I told her the Kate story as succinctly as I could. Then we watched the Today clip together.
My sister is the mom to seven children (6 bio and 1 adopted). She homeschooled and really grows and cooks organic! Her heart is so loving and her is so giving that sometimes I am humbled.
She was horrified at the discomfort of the twins.
I then introduced my sister to the YouTube videos of pizza gate, Alaska. Camping and DWTS paparazzi. She thought the dance was a spoof until I shared Jimmy Fallon's hilarious parody.
She wanted to read some of the comments here. I had to explain Auntie's Zorro comment.
I have followed this story for so long. It was eye opening to see the reaction of a "new" mind.
I believe she might be tempted to follow this sordid tale. So, if there is ever a post from dmasy's sister -- it would be real!
She refuted Savannah's suggestion that bringing the girls on national TV could 'put them on the spot' and 'continue the injury to them.'
I call bulls%$%t on the Today show "inviting" them. tfw campaigned and fought for the spot.
This was like "Hey, The Today Show asked us if we wanted to do this, and how did we feel about it".
'And they agreed to it, as with my nine year olds. It's a family decision so I think it's really frustrating when there's so much out there that's not true.'
Lying is like breathing with her
Jon's genes must be very strong, the girls have more of his features than hers.
Oh no! Another "hater"? ;)
She might regret being introduced to this tragedy. Good luck to you Dmsay!
I hate the way TFW can't manage to speak in complete sentences.
It's a conglomeration of sentence fragments that often don't even make sense together. What's that about?
TLC stinks said...
I'm not even going to comment on CT because I have no desire to watch such trash. As far as my impression of Liz: Jon can do much better. He just wants a normal relationship and I don't know why he seeks out this particular type of woman, but he could do with some REAL therapy to understand himself.
As far as the twins, they are no where camera ready and Kate is so blind to her ambition that she does not care. Those poor girls were given a script written by Kate, and by golly, they better toe the line because "mommy" wants a reality show. ITA " Growing Up Gosselin" is show title she is hawking.
I get the feeling Monday's "View" was taped on Thursday or maybe just the Gosselin segment. Can you imagine the fallout and pressure from "mommy" to repeat their "script" fully. For that reason I think the girls will speak but it won't be pleasant with all the "likes" and Kate's big mouth.
Otherwise, if the show is live on Monday, I got to wonder if the Today interview will be brought up. Also ITA and I said it in a previous post that the "People" article written by Kate's pal, Kate Coyne, was total BS. It was cobbled from conversations, not a direct interview and Coyne made sure to follow Kate's agenda. I think this will hurt Coyne as a reporter and I hope with the new management she gets the boot. Coyne should have reported that the girls have been coached. Shameful.
Interesting how little Jon and Liz were on CT this episode.
Agree that Liz seems like a broad as said above. I imagine that TFW thinks that she is infinitely better. Her good breeding and all.
Instead of admitting that Jon picked her up in a bar one night, I wish they'd lie, kind of..I know lying is not good, and say they kept running into each other at the grocery store or something.
OMG, Morning a Joe, just did a promo that the Today interview will be discussed. Will kept you know what us said.
I believe the kids when they say they want to do another show. Doing a show keeps mommy happy and there are other people in their lives that they can interact with and mommy has to behave somewhat in front of these people. They aren't sequestered on the compound either and let's face it, it IS fun for them. The travel, etc.
I also think the twins validated Roberts book.
Fu(; TFW. I am team Jon all the way now. She is an abuser.
They played a clip that showed it all in a nutshell. Just said it was awkward and had girls that age. They got off subject but someone said at the end about "daggers" in the girls' eyes.
Scratch that. Team Mady & Cara
Winsomeone said...
I don't think Kate has all that much control of the twins any more..if she goes too far with them, I imagine they tell her to back off, or they will start telling people how things really are in that house. I think this latest interview showed the beginning of the shift in power in that house.
I have no idea what other interviews they did in NYC, but The View definitely is live Mon-Thursday.
The twins are in that rebellious stage (we who have raised teens, particularly girls, get it) and even fearing mom's wrath, she can't control them. They are almost as big as she is physically and know they have an ally in their dad. Kate is toast. Finally.
Just checked The View websit and they have TFW scheduled for Monday but no mention of the kids.
Mady's eyes lit up about doing another show, but I think her mother has filled her head with platitudes about her "talent". Cara has always been shy and never liked the cameras. If Mady wants to go down that oath, protection for her earnings with a manager and attorney need to be put in place. Kate will rip her off.
Yeah...this picture From the Daily Mail (click to see) says it all.
Picture of 'everything okie dokie' #thinknot
Suuure, the Today Show asked them on but only after Kate or her manager put in a request. If a Kate breathing, she is lying. Obviously this media campaign has been planned for months so she can get a network to bankroll a show. Not going to happen now.
PDMan said...
This Tweet is from the guy who has the Crazy Days and Night gossip blog:
Enty Lawyer @entylawyer 1m
Kate Gosselin is pitching a Bachelorette type show for herself. Has given up on any family show after yesterday's mess.
TFW is abusive (95)
I'm conflicted about all the negative articles. On one hand, the twins must feel completely humiliated, and this frenzy of publicity is just making it worse. One the other hand, I am thrilled that TFW has been exposed for the monstrous mother and horrible manipulator she really is. Nobody could watch that interview and not realize that those girls were coached by Kate, that they were manipulated and intimidated by Kate, and that Kate was enraged by their refusal to spew her party line. She can't hide from this one. There's no chance that everyone in the entertainment industry won't know about it. If she was hoping to get a new show out of this, she needs to put that dream to rest. What network wants to sign a family when it's common knowledge that the kids are abused and manipulated into performing by a mother they fear? None that I can think of.
So, I flip-flop a lot. Thrilled about TFW's unmasking one moment, horrified for twins the next. We all wanted TFW to stop exploiting the kids--that's why we're all here. But we didn't want the kids to be humiliated in the process.
Winsome...129
Agree with you. If TFW pushes the twins too far, all they have to say is we're going to tell people what went on in this family and house in the past and what goes on today. TFW would shit her pants and back off. Wait until the six become teenagers. There's going to be hell to pay.
Formerly Duped said...
I'm really not sure about whether the twins were shy or didn't remember their 'words' or wha,t but I personally don't think they pre-arranged to stay silent. After all, that would be so embarrassing for them to explain to their friends etc. And the knew they would 'disappoint Mommy" and face her wrath.They had plenty to say to the People interviewer so I think it was nerves and fear of making a 'mistake'.Also the fact their mother wanted them to lie...again.
I wonder how the other interview(s) went /will go.I hope no one asks them why they were' wordless'
Marie (124)
Of course they want to do another show. It's been a few years, and the bad memories have faded. Now all the know is the "reality" of it that has been reinforced by TFW. Watching videos of all their vacations, while TFW now refuses to take them on vacation anywhere. Videos showing elaborate parties. Now they have small birthday celebrations at home, with TFW butting in to pretend to be a teenager, too.
If you ask any 13-year-old, "Would you like your own TV show? You'll get to travel to amazing places, and go backstage at every concert, you'll never have to wait in line anywhere, you'll get to stay at nice hotels, eat at nice restaurants, get tons of new clothes and gadgets, plus you'll have someone to do your hair and makeup and wait on you hand and foot", what kid is going to say no thanks?
Bitchy Pants said...
Auntie Ann, as usual, sane and authentic comments. I agree with you. Also -- if Jon's father was indeed an alcoholic, that would go a long way to explain some of his personality traits. Adult children of alcoholics often are eager to please, somewhat passive, avoid conflict, and look for physical affection, or what they perceive as physical affection.
Any possibility that Liz is just amping up her behavior for the show? Possibly as a means of helping the therapist teach Jon some new techniques for dealing with TFMJGTP?
It doesn't surprise me to hear that all Jon wanted to do in his first night with Liz was hug and cuddle. On the show, when TFMJGTP was asked why they didn't hug or kiss or touch each other, she said "We aren't demonstrative people". It was clear that SHE wasn't physically demonstrative, at least not in a loving and affectionate way, but Jon always appeared to be a hands on, demonstrative, "touchy/feely" kind of person. TFMJGTP starved him for affection as much as she did the kids.
Lalalalala said...
There's some talk on The View's Facebook page about wanting them to cancel the Gosselin's appearance after the Today Show debacle.
I forgot to attach the link about Kate wanting a Bachelorette show:
http://www.crazydaysandnights.net/2014/01/kate-gosselin-pitching-bachelorette.html
lukebandit said...
I missed the first hour of the Today show this morning. Did they even mention what happened yesterday with the interview?
This interview has opened many many eyes and hearts to see how the real WOS really is! Nothing short of miraculous. I would love to know what Paul Peterson, Eric Roberts, Scott Kluth, think about this.
I missed CT last night, even though I had auto tuned it. To hear Liz calling Jon vulgar words is disgusting. Did she talk to her ex like that? Not only does it affect Jon and the kids, it affects her kids too.
Look what the girls are going to have to face when they go to school on Tuesday. The interview, and Liz calling their dad vulgar names. Awful.
Jon's interview with TMZ was heartbreaking. You could feel his pain. All he wanted to do was tell them it was ok. AND HUG THEM.
All TFW did on the interview was:
stare at them to check on them to see if they were in check, CHECK.
Speak for them when they clammed up, CHECK.
Throw their dad under the bus, CHECK.
Trying to show the world that they had their chance to set the record straight by SPITTING IT OUT, CHECK.
Where do you go after you have a bad Today Show interview? You go to NOBU, DUH!! CHECK, PLEASE!
Bet Steve stood there while TFW stood there and BERATED the poor girls ROLLING HIS EYES, SIGHING AND BORED OUT OF HIS SKULL! MR. WOS!!!!
What does "LONG TIME FAMILY FRIEND" GINA NEILD THINK ABOUT THIS? About her Kate Enabler ABSENTEE HUSBAND AND FATHER OF HER SONS?
Well goodnite all. Let's see wasn't the dad supposed 2b on some #therapyshow 2nite? Looks like the TWINS stole his thunder!! #HotTopic
Actually Milo if you paid attention to something other than Kate you'd know Jon made his appearance last night on CT.
http://radaronline.com/exclusives/2014/01/kate-gosselin-mady-cara-today-show-teen-twins-awkward-photos/
Are you happy now Kate? Having my children's pictures and story all over the internet and the rag magazines would not be my idea of a good thing.
LifeinOH said...
Kate Gosselin Pitching A Bachelorette Type Show For Herself
There were two goals Kate Gosselin had for herself yesterday when she appeared on Today. OK, a few more than two but they all revolved around her. For the past few months she has been pitching television show ideas to networks because she misses being on television every week and all the attention she gets. Make no mistake. The woman loves attention. Lots of it and she likes it all focused on her. She wants the limo rides and the hair and makeup all for herself. She wants the interviews and books and everything to say Kate. Not Kate and....
The problem is the networks don't like her solo. They like her with the kids. So, yesterday was her chance to get her two oldest kids in front of the camera and show production companies what they could do and it was a disaster. The teens obviously don't want to help their mother. Did they purposefully throw her under a bus? It sure looked that way when they didn't want to talk and makes me think Kneepads did one of their glorious jobs of reporting and let Kate do the talking for the kids when they did their "interview."
All along though Kate has wanted a Bachelorette type show focused on her. She wants guys to date her. Wine and dine her and fawn all over her while she is the star of the show. She wants to film in exotic destinations and will "sacrifice" time spent with her kids to film. She knows all the press for the show would be about her and that all the focus would be her and she sees the show running for many years because she doesn't actually want someone to be with because that would mean sharing more of the spotlight.
She wants classy for the show and wants a big budget and great guys and also wants about $1M a season for herself plus a bunch of other demands.
POSTED BY ENT LAWYER AT 6:30 AM
Hey that is a GOOD POINT. Who said they were damaged? Obviously the public is but if producers aren't saying it then what does Kate care and why does Kate have to address it? All that matters is potential employers aren't concerned.
I can't definitely see a producer Kate is in negotiations with saying, I'll be honest Kate we're concerned about how the public feels about this situation and how that might reflect poorly on us if we put the kids to work again. Producers would be nuts not to consider the massive tide of public opinion about this that has been going on a long time but especially now.
And not a peep from the Today show this morning?
boo said...
Terrence Jenkins was hilarious on E News last night. He said it reminded him of a horror movie where the police come to the door to check on a woman, she opens the door a crack and says everything is fine, while right behind the door is the axe murderer holding the weapon, making sure she doesn't let on what's really going on. I can't do it justice. It was really funny and Giuliana and Cat were cracking up.
capecodmama said... 132
I checked my TV schedule and they said reality star Kate Gosselin and her 13 yr twins for the view on Monday.
I hope it's wrong but I doubt it plus KK said "we filmed more interview" so unless she and Steve or she has a split personality it's her & the twins.
Nah, because in her delusional mind it's all because JON JON JON is saying they are "damaged". It's for THIS reason (the reason this week) that nobody is knocking on their door begging them to sign on.
MickeyMcKean said...
Cable TV 101:
There seems to be some confusion as to what is cable TV and what channels Jon can and cannot watch.
Cable TV -- provided by Dish Network, DirectTV or whatever service in your area -- usually has a "basic service package" which would be the local channels and then there are additional "premium" packages where you can get TLC and Hallmark, etc. Then of course there are the movie packages that include HBO, Showtime, etc. In order to get any or all of these channels you need a cable TV service provider and with this service you also get a DVR.
About 5 years ago if you did not have a cable TV service provider because you could not afford it or just did not want to pay for TV but you wanted to still get the local channels via the antenna on your roof or "rabbit ears" you needed a box to connect to your TV which would convert the free signals into a digital one and then you could watch TV for free.
Dish Network, my cable service provider, until this week was in contract disputes with 3 local channels for about 4 weeks, ABC being one of them. This meant that in order for me to keep up with THE VIEW, REVENGE, SCANDAL, etc. I would have to go to ABCTV.com and watch these shows on my computer. Yes it was a pain in the butt but at least I was able to keep up with these shows and watch them at my convenience.
Then the last week of December ABCTV.com informed viewers that starting in January we would not be able to see any of their shows online the same week they aired that we would have to wait until the following week.
This of course pissed me off and because I have extra TVs I called a friend to borrow her box that would convert the local channel airwaves so I could watch these shows on one of the TVs not hooked up to my cable DVR system. The downside was that I would have to watch the show live. This did not make me happy because the advantage of watching a show that you have recorded via your DVR is that you get to fast forward through all the commercials and the time you save adds up.
Now in regards to Jon, who perhaps does not have a cable TV provider and/or wifi in his home, he could in fact watch the TODAY show if he has one of these boxes hooked up to a TV which would provide him with the local channels including NBC. But without a cable TV service provider such as the ones I have listed above Jon would not be able to watch CT which is on VH1.
By the way I pay $95/month for Dish Network and if I were to go out and buy a "smart TV" I know that because I have wifi in my home I could pay $78/year for Hulu but that would only provide me with local channels, as well as movies that I want to order streamed to my TV via the wifi. Unfortunately since there are a lot of cable channels that I watch on a regular basis that are not offered by Hulu I am still a Dish Network customer.
Maybe TFW went on the VIEW by herself and she will explain stage fright, Sheri will AGREE, they will both throw Jon under the Greyhound bus with pleasure.
Robert, you are in a much better position NOW more than ever to release the book. I really believe it would sell better NOW because of the interview because people who know TFW and people who never thought a thought about her are APPALLED at her throwing her daughters to the wolves yesterday.
They know, suspect things must be much worse at home if she said SPIT IT OUT! She is getting paid back for GUMGATE making them spit out the gum that Aunt Jody gave them.
Did she have a wig on? To me, the girls looked much healthier than TFW. Their hair was so pretty. Is TFW just waiting for a production company to pay for her expensive root touchups with Jason in NYC so she doesn't have too?
NYC reminds me of the commercial for Pace Salsa.
A cowboy, sitting around the bonfire is eating HIS Pace Salsa with chips and the other cowboys are stunned and say Where did he get his salsa from? They all chime, NEW YORK CITY????
This is how I think it is said when people hear that TFW gets her expensive 2K hair cuts. NEW YORK CITY????
I guess TFW won't change until the fat lady sings. She has been singing for years now! She's not listening! It is not phasing her!
Love this quote from TFW's interview...
"I'm getting to the point where I'm extremely frustrated. And I don't spend time worrying about it because I'm busy raising my kids.
Which is it, are you frustrated by the 'untrue' stories or do you ignore them? Me thinks you spend a great deal of time worrying about it and plotting how to get back on tv.
If she wants to do a dating show my fear is that she will want the kids involved for reactions to her new man. I guess there are wannabe actors out there who would jump on a chance to get on TV, but I don't anticipate there is much stomach to watch Kate on the dating scene. She has no personality, is nasty, and hard to work with since she would demand to be a producer of the show. When pigs fly.
I also would love Tweedle's posts on this debacle too!
Best wishes to you Dmasy!! I know the feeling about telling someone about TFW and seeing or hearing their WHAT??? YOUR JOKING???
I talked to my mom last night and I asked her if she watched the Today Show and TFW. She said she watched some of it but didn't see the interview. I told her what TFW said, Here's your chance, SPIT IT OUT! For the first time, I heard her GASP!! I told her you have to see it. But she won't be able to unless she watches it shown on other shows like Inside Edition or others.
But Milo says TFW is mother of the year! mama bear!
http://m.theglobeandmail.com/life/the-hot-button/kate-gosselin-under-fire-for-scolding-her-tight-lipped-daughters-during-live-tv-broadcast/article16384465/?service=mobile&cmpid=rss1&utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter.
I'm glad to finally be back and able to comment. First of all, thank you to everyone who sent condolences regarding my fur babies. I read them all but got called into work before I could acknowledge and thank all of you. This is the best online community bar none and I'm really proud to be able to comment here and communicate with all of you.
Let me do my obligatory nurses heads up. If you haven't gotten your flu shot, please consider doing it now. We are dealing with the notorious H1N1 strain this year and because of that, I've been working sixty hours a week. Lots of flu hospitalizations and more deaths than normal. I got my flu vac late December as my area was wiped out and it has saved my rear. Mr. Kelly didn't get his until first of January and so far so good with him as well.
Back on topic, now that TFW (by the way NJGal51 - I always think of The F*cking Witch when I use that abbreviation ;) ) has gone on national television and has publicly shown her talent as a top notch parent alienator , this should give Jon more for a court case if he ever chooses to take the silicone oven mitt back to court. She is so ridiculously blinded by hate and revenge that it's sad. My message to Jon would be to try as hard as he can not to bait the rabid donkeee and take all of this to a court of law. She's so mentally unstable that I honestly do fear how far she'd go to either prove she's right (which everyone pretty much agrees she's NOT) or to get back at him. It will become a game of tit for tat with the kids being the casualties.
If Jon went on CT in order to earn money to move closer to his children, then he's a hero in my eyes. As far as Liz being uncouth (I've never watched but have heard it online and from coworkers) as long as she isn't abusive to the kids or Jon in anyway, I say it's Jon business. Men are drawn to a certain type, both physically and in personality. Also, Liz's personality type may be the only kind of woman who can deal with her partner's ex wife being the Bitch From Hell. And if that's the case, I say rock on Liz!
Whoa, did you guys say that Jon said that Kate is narcissistic in one of his statements yesterday? Word for word, narcissistic.
I know for a fact it's been suggested to him directly that Kate could be a narcissist by many people especially when he was going through a lot of divorce mess and could have used that in court, but he has never admitted it to my knowledge.
Enty Lawyer @entylawyer Jan 8
Dear @peoplemag you can't be serious. Two Kate Gosselin covers within a year. Wow you must owe her publicists some big favors.
The twins had a choice: repeat mommy's words ( lies) or just go silent. It's as simple as that. Not stage fright , just total fear of saying the wrong thing and facing the wrath of Kate. It's a bad situation when you demand your children to lie publicly. Kate has no morals, but her girls do. Thirteen year olds do not like to be puppets. Kate has learned a lesson so now she will drop the family centered show and go for trashy dating show. I believe the tweet she has moved on.
I believe Jon did indeed say Kate is a narcissist.
Another thing I only saw mentioned once is that when Jon was describing watching the girls live, all he could do was say oh girls please say something anything!
Even though it's really better for his "case" that the clamp up like that, he was a loving father and PERSON first and foremost and he didn't want them to embarrass themselves like that, even if it meant it wouldn't help his "case." He wasn't sitting there cheering saying yes look at this they are bombing SEE?? He was saying rather, oh girls please talk. That really said it all about the kind of person he is, warts and al-- his heart is in the right place.
No, I'm not talking about in general. In general of course it's often better to say no comment. I'm talking about on T.V. It is never better in the industry's eyes to be silent when you've been booked as a guest specifically to speak. Never. My point being that this was the best thing they could have done to ensure they never get booked again, better than simply trying to say or do wild or outrageous things to sabotage it. If it was intentional, it was VERY smart of them.
I don't think she wears a wig but has extensions. That long wavy look is her standard TV and photo hair, otherwise it is shorter and straight. Her hair must be beyond repair at this point. She out to cut it short and start over. That long hair look is not flattering. Much more appropriate style for a younger woman. She looked cute with the short cut, just not the stripes and spikes.
The Empress was Stripped Bare-Nekkid said...
Admin~ Yes, he calls her "narcissistic," as reported here:
http://hollywoodlife.com/2014/01/16/kate-gosselin-girls-jon-gosselin-today-show/
(Formerly The Empress Has New Clothes)
ABAWHAWHAW!!! You have GOT to be kidding me. Give it up already. Is THIS the reason she hasn't dated, didn't want to be "attached" because there's a show (there always is with her) in the works? Me thinks Jon knows everything about what she's been spending her time on. He was vague, but it sounds right.
God, this makes me laugh! I'm sure she really wanted to say "I'M" not damaged people! Do you hear me??!! I'm soooo available and date-able. But she could never address HER shortcomings could she?
Kate and the twins interview was a Hot Topic on The Wendy Williams Show this morning. Wendy is Team Jon. She said that herself and the audience fell in love with him when he was on the other day. She had nothing nice to say about Kate.
A lot of people are uncouth. It's not really my cup of tea but this is really how a lot of people live. We are overall a pretty rough around the edges culture. It is easy to forget that if you avoid it generally. Liz has also been through a lot that could make her rough in her young life, three kids and divorced before she's 30 now dating an ex-celebrity with all this drama. Frankly, Jon and Kate both have always struck me as rather classless and unrefined. Like lottery winners who can't really change who they are. It does not surprise me Jon would seek out other relationships of someone who behaves similarly uncouth, this is what he is used to and comfortable with. They were definitely from the heart of America and I never really felt they left behind who they really are as much as Kate especially tries to hide it. I don't like this expression usually but in this case it fits, it is what it is.
Jon has already responded to the fact that Mady and Cara stayed silent through most of their appearance on Today. He hinted to Inside Edition that it was deliberate effort by the girls to get back at their mom for something. He said "There was something else in the background that was supposed to come out, and for some reason, they took a moral stance by not saying anything…It was a big, big, big deal by them not saying one word." I wonder what he's talking about.
Celebitchy
I loved this comment!
@Xxxxxxxx: @Kateplusmy8 blames "stage fright" for interview.. looked it up Stage Fright (n): being scared shitless your soulless mom will beat your ass
foxy said...
Robert Hoffman has a new post on his blog.
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Yes, it was a quote on one of the many sites, can't recall which one
"I think it's f—ing horrible that she'd put them in a [position] like this," Jon said. "She put them on TV for herself. She's narcissistic."
"They haven't been on TV in two years, so why are they speaking out? I care about my children and I am worried about them being normal kids. I've worked so hard to get them off TV and now she throws them back on TV," Jon added. Jon @ Hollywood Life
If Kate has titled her new dream reality show "Growing Up Gosselin" is she aware Animal Planet has a series called "Growing Up _____". http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Growing_Up... The blank is filled in by whatever animal is being featured on that episode. Growing Up Baboon, Growing Up Wolf, Growing Up Gorilla, etc. They have about 30 episodes. I doubt if she gets "Growing up Gosselin" on the air, they'll make 30 episodes.
I agree Admin. I started using the term uncouth because the alternative was "trailer trash" and that term bothers me more. I know plenty of people who I would categorize as uncouth, and most of them have a heart of gold and would not hurt anyone. It's the ones who believe they're better than everyone else that you have to watch out for.
I also agree about the hair. It looks better parted on the side with a bit of side bang and needs about six inches cut off it. When she parts it down the middle, it only exaggerates her long face. She needs to resort to the original plan of nursing school and then finding a rich doctor. Kate, go back and do your CEUs, get back into nursing just long enough to land yourself a doctor before you botox and plastic surgery yourself into Jocelyn Wildenstein's doppelganger.
silimom said...
I have to agree, I doubt this was a prearranged protest on the girls' part. What I saw was very uncomfortable to watch but I think it was more that they couldn't remember the "script" their mom had prepped them with and they were nervous about displeasing their mom. It's been over two years since the show aired and they did a couch interview, which in and of itself was a different experience then live tv because with the couch interviews, they could do a retake until they got the words they (the film crew) got the shot they wanted. I think that's why the girls perked up at the "Would you want another reality show" question. They KNOW how to answer that one.
Cara looked so stressed and uncomfortable. Mady was peeved she was the one having to do the talking. I loved how both girl's were sitting with their long hair covering their Kate side. Also I did think Mady's comment when asked if people's perception of their family was wrong said "I wouldn't say wrong but they don't have the full story". I interpreted that as "Yes my mom is what you think she is but their are legitimate reasons for some of her behavior".
Anyway, overall Kate's plan to use the kids to get back into tv was an epic fail yesterday. Let's see what happens on the View Monday.
You know the most sick and twisted thing about this entire fiasco is? That Kate is enjoying all this attention even though it's at the expense of her children. It doesn't matter to her that it's mostly negative attention, it's still getting her talked about and that my friends is all she truly cares about.
The Empress was Stripped Bare-Nekkid said... 167
Love the new name!
I read online that the View tapes live Monday through Thursday, and that Friday's show is taped after Thursday's. So Friday is the only non-live show. TFW said she and the girls did a couple interviews. Where is the second interview? Is there one that was not shown out of sympathy to the girls? Or did the View make an exception and tape them early? If there is a second interview (TFW could be exaggerating to make it seem like they are more in demand than they really are), I hope it is buried. The twins have been through enough. They are going to hear about this when school resumes Tuesday.
She told them, 'You embarrassed mommy,'
((((((((
Who talks about themselves in the third person to teenagers? That might be a way to talk to a 2 year old because pronouns are hard to grasp.."No hitting you hurt mommy"
Frankly I could care less if Liz is cough, uncouth, or whatever. She is not putting her minor children on tv for the purpose of pitching a tv show designed to showcase herself. She is not talking about her children, or her bf's children. Her bf's children seem to like her just fine. So she can be whoever she wants to be IMO. TFW, on the other hand, has finally done a truly monstrous public thing, dragging HER minor children in front of cameras again. Poor girls. And then they have to go back to school after a weekend of social media gossip; their biotch mother can go back to bed.
Is that true - the segment was pulled for the West Coast market. I live in the East so I wouldn't know.
It's true. No one in the LA Market saw it. The fire coverage was all day long. This is largely for safety reasons so they know what schools are closed what roads are closed and what areas need to evacuate. When I could see how big the fire was from my house 30 minutes away I knew I wasn't going to see this interview on TV.
I doubt that was true of the entire West Coast just the LA market. If the LA market had actually seen it the fallout could have been even worse.
As far as Liz being criticized for being uncouth, I would much rather deal with someone like her rather than someone like Taylor Armstrong who is a pretentious, judgemental bitch. She didn't even say hello to Jon and Liz before she was sizing them up because of what they were wearing. Her "entitled" hissy fit last week told me everything I needed to know about her.
denni don't like kate..... said...
From NYDaily News Article this morning re: Gosselin Twins/TFW TV appearance and what happened backstage.
Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/gossip/confidential/kate-irate-twins-mute-article-1.1582446#ixzz2qfmRXBfe
Well, I bet Milo was up all night trying to figure out how to help Kate spin this. Milo claims Kate loves and protects her children. She claims the twins and Kate are close. She claims everything Kate does is for the kids. All of it, shot down yesterday.
I believe it was Susie Cincinnati who referred to Milo as making herself look like a "crazy, lovesick old bat." Love it. You nailed it, Susie!
Glad to see this has brought out Dr. Glass's analysis.
I think the LA market, though they missed the Today Show yesterday morning, had a decent exposure to Kate's horror show. It was a gossip item all afternoon, made Extra, Inside edition, etc in the evening, and was plastered all over the internet. Could it have been worse for her if we had seen it yesterday morning? Maybe, but the real damage was done live in NY already, and if there was any Hollywoodish producer intent on seeing this for "Growing Up Gosselin" (ugh) consideration, the fire coverage did not stop that. Hopefully TFW and her horse and pony show has done herself all the damage stopping that will require.
The long and short of it said...
Agree with Admin that Kate needs to go short and start fresh with her hair. I guess she hasn't noticed the trend of many big stars going short. Some have said that it was because their hair was ruined from over processing, etc and it was time to start fresh. It would also help the long horse face that she's seems to have lately. If you look at the pictures on the Lillian Glass blog, specifically the one where Dr Gless says she is clenching her jaw, you can definitely tell that Kate's had a chin implant. Very, very obvious in that picture.
Ok...now I'm laughing out loud.
Amy2 said...
I wonder if People magazine is going to have any kind of article or 1-2 line mention of the interview. This is news and for People not to cover it, that would be odd. On the other hand how can they have an article about the interview with the C/M remaining silent and refusing to validate the People spread they did. Hmm, its a problem I would say. Bet People just ignores the hoopla.
I don't know, Admin. The tape is on the internet and tabloids are commenting, so the LA market knows although everyone is more concerned about the fires and right so. Good luck out there.
Jumping In said...
This is TFW, quoted in Canada's national newspaper, The Globe and Mail.
Kate Gosselin referenced Jon's comments on TODAY, saying the twins are "aware of what is out there, the inaccuracies, things that are said by the general public , their father, whoever ... their friends talk about it at school. So I sort of am forced to kind of inform them."
This is the statement that struck me the most during the TODAY interview yesterday. "Inform them"? shouldn't that have been "protect them"? Her twins are living this nightmare, they have all the information they need. They should feel protected by their parents, not asked to prop up their mother's version of things on national television. It was shameful to put them on the cover of People, but yesterday's stunt finally proved how twisted their mother is.
I completely agree with Jon, they were conflicted and had a moral dilemma on their hands and simply could not parrot their mother's storyline.
Thank you RemonaBlue and T for giving me a better idea of Jon and Liz' relationship and her personality. Well, I hope that they each get some real benefit from this televised therapy.
I wonder how much make-up they had to use at The View to cover any potentially developing bruises.
Not trying to be funny. I am seriously worried about that.
Tucker's Mom said...
Also, Liz's personality type may be the only kind of woman who can deal with her partner's ex wife being the Bitch From Hell. And if that's the case, I say rock on Liz!
Hi, Kelly!! Welcome back!
Got my flu shot in Oct. ;-)
I'm going to go against the grain and say that I like Liz. Sure, she's rough around the edges, unrefined and talks like a sailor, but she seems to have a heart of gold.
I'm a Philly girl myself, and I know gritty. I ain't afraid of gritty. Gritty people are some of the salt of the earth folks that make the world go 'round.
I watched most of the CT show online this morning, and I think Liz expresses her frustration with Jon and his personality traits that don't exactly work for them as a couple. She not berating him for breathing, or treating him like a dog.
She's got some work to do as far as compassion and empathy goes, but I get the sense that she makes Jon happy.
Her insight about being interchangeable was very astute as well. She's dating a guy who thought a 22-year old, plant-face-planting party pothead girl was the love of his life.
You're damn skippy she should proceed with caution!
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 2m
@deannatweeting We've got kids N this world their age, doing cocaine, having sex & all matter of issues.& a moment of shyness get headlines!
Aaaaaand she's off!
OMG. Of course she has no intention of actually meeting a great guy and marrying the fool because her heart belongs to ANOTHER and he's already married. Ol' Steve has stuck around just in case she manages to pull it off. Now that her plans for a family show have crashed and burned along with her being an author and cook, the dating show is her next project. Her demands are ridiculous and amusing.
Do you think the girls were put off by having Uncle Steve around in NYC? They're not innocents anymore.
If another interview is aired and the girls are talking up a storm, it will not bode well for TFW's reaction to the silence.Wonder what bonding means to Kate as er her tweet.She also mentioned shopping ( bribing?)
Adding to Mickey McKean s Cable TV 101:
We love in area where cable operator offers bundle of cable, internet, and phone and that's what we have. However there is a charge per box for the DVr box with expanded channels. We also have Netflix and have a Wii hooked up, and wifi in the house.
So when I got extra TV for kitchen, I did not want to pay for cable company visit to hook it up, so I got $25 digital antenna from Lowes. I can pick up local channels, including the sub channels of the local public TV station. So for example I can get 15.1 and 15.2 and 15.3 and three more! I can get local channel and their .2 frequency carries old TV shows like Columbo and Beverly Hillbillies.
Some people have satellite provider like Direct TV or Dish Network. Some have physical cable providers thru Charter, Comcast, Cox, Time Warner, etc. some have service thru phone providers like Verizon FIOS. And some save money and just watch local channels with a digital antenna. And some use all the online options. It just depends on what is available where you live and what suits your needs best.
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