Sian Bradley
Government & Policy / Mon 30 Apr 2018
What will new Home Secretary Sajid Javid do for UK tech following Amber Rudd's resignation?
Conservative party member Amber Rudd has resigned as Home Secretary. The announcement came following the Windrush immigration scandal, during which Rudd claimed to not have set deportation targets. Yet on Sunday, The Guardian published a letter addressed to Theresa May in which Rudd did indeed set out targets to deport 10% more illegal immigrants over the "next few years".
Fellow Conservative Sajid Javid will replace Rudd. Whilst the Home Secretary's main focus is on immigration and citizenship, they also have remit over policing and national security, which often feature tech in some way. So, what did Rudd do for the UK's burgeoning technology industry, and what can we expect from her successor?
Counter-terrorism tech
The majority of Rudd's work on tech policy, especially in 2017, was based on anti-terrorism efforts. Alongside a huge £707m pot to support law enforcement in tackling terrorism, in July 2017, Rudd spearheaded plans to change end-to-end encryption laws, amid government worries that the technology was being leveraged by terrorists to help them plot attacks. In the wake of the Manchester Attack, the government moved to enforce powers that would mean the likes of Apple and Facebook would have to hand over encrypted messages to terror investigations. Rudd had to approve each order, which would mean police and MI5 could request encryption to be removed from messages sent by suspects.
In October 2017, encryption came up again when Rudd admitted to not understanding the technology that keeps messages on Whatsapp and iMessage secure, but wanting to ban or alter it, anyway. She reportedly said: "I don't need to understand how encryption works to understand how it's helping […] the criminals. I will engage with the security services to find the best way to combat that".
The government was worried that end-to-end encryption prevented them from reading terrorists' and criminals' messages – but experts warned that the same technology also keeps private citizens from having their messages read by criminals, and is used to secure banking technologies, among other functions.
Off the back of this, Rudd accused tech experts of "patronising" and "sneering" at politicians who try to regulate their industry. She said that Silicon Valley types should have been doing more to support authorities when it comes to counter-terrorism attempts.
Championing innovation?
Hopefully Javid's understanding of technology is better. There is some evidence that he will champion new tech and innovation. At The Times CEO Summit back in 2015 he reportedly said: "Berlin and Paris might want to ban Uber. We welcome disruptive technology of that type and others.
"You can either embrace it and try and work with it, or you can push it away. We benefit from promoting new technology because ultimately it's in the interests of consumers."
He went on to say the government would support disruptive tech because "it will lead to higher productivity". Of course, this was three years ago, so his stance could have potentially changed.
It will be interesting to see how Javid moves forward with the anti-terrorism pledges. In October 2017, Rudd revealed a proposed change in the law which would mean that those who view terrorist content online could face up to 15 years behind bars.
Fast forward to Februrary 2018 and the government announced they were using machine learning to identify terrorist content online. Amber Rudd claimed the AI could detect "94% of Daesh propaganda with 99.995% accuracy". Developed by the Home Office and ASI Data Science, the tech analyses video and audio to see if it contains Daesh propaganda. According to the announcement, "if it analyses one million randomly selected videos, only 50 would require additional human review".
Rudd said at the time: "We know that automatic technology like this can heavily disrupt the terrorists' actions, as well as prevent people from ever being exposed to these horrific images."
Working with tech giants
Back in November 2017, Rudd met with tech giants Facebook, Twitter, Google and Microsoft in Washington. They agreed to work with the government to tackle extremist material online. Rudd also called on tech companies to "do more" to tackle child sexual exploitation on the internet, saying they have a "moral duty" to do something about it.
"We need to make sure [tech companies] put their technical know-how into addressing it. Particularly working with smaller platforms where children go to game online, to meet each other; there are paedophiles working there," she had said on the BBC's Andrew Marr Show.
Fighting crime on the web
The number of businesses that have been hit by cyber crime has been rising lately according to some figures, and as Rudd is responsible for national security, this involves cybersecurity, too. In April 2018, she made an announcement stating that the government needs to call out cybercrime, and work with other countries to tackle it.
As part of that, the government pledged a £9m fund to crack-down on criminality on the dark web, with £5m devoted to local cyber crime units. "This will bring the UK's total programme of support for Commonwealth partners to nearly £15 million over the next 3 years to help improve cyber security capabilities," she said.
This was one of her last tech-related announcements as Home Secretary, so we now wait to see where her replacement will take this – and the rest of the role – moving forward. In terms of voting, Javid has always broadly followed the Tory government, so we may not see much of a shake up in terms of how he approaches tech. For instance, he voted for the Snooper Charter and for adding age restrictions to porn.
With the Windrush revelations (which he has openly shown anger toward) and Brexit (for which he supported Remain) hanging over the political landscape, Javid will likely receive a lot of scrutiny in the decisions he makes as the new Home Secretary, and only time will tell how much of an impact, if any, he has on the UK tech industry.
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WAKFU Heroes: Justice
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You know the story, now discover the legend of the Justice Clan! It's hard to be the son of Justice Knight, a hero who spends most of his time enforcing the law in the Cania Plains. Junior's only solution is to become a knight himself.
In this adventure, injustice hasn't said its last word… Will father and son defeat this threat?
Author(s) Faouz.b, Jebedaï, Vincent Lamassonne
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Interview with Barbara Hawkins – Little House Site Tours
May 11, 2015 By Rebecca Friendly
Today's interview is with Barbara Hawkins, founder of Little House Site Tours. For fifteen years, Barbara and her husband George have been organizing tours of the Little House on the Prairie Historic Locations that have attracted visitors from around the world. If you would like to participate in a tour, please contact them by visiting their website.
Q: When did you become interested in Laura Ingalls Wilder?
I was teaching fourth grade in Dickinson, North Dakota in 1961 while my husband George was stationed there with the Air Force. Little House in the Big Woods was suggested as a good book to go with our pioneer unit. When I read this wonderful book out loud in class, the children listened with rapt attention. My love for Little House had begun!
Barb and George Hawkins at the Wilder Homestead in Burke, New York.
Q: Do you have a favorite Little House book or chapter?
I enjoy all of the Little House books but Little House in the Big Woods is a favorite. The first chapter sets the stage and shows so many things that made Laura happy – a corncob doll, playing in the loft, helping Ma, the pig's bladder, and Pa's stories and fiddle playing.
Picnic at the Wilder Homestead in Burke, New York.
Q: What inspired you to create Little House Site Tours?
In 1998 I went on the Laura Ingalls Wilder Study Tour that was sponsored by three librarians in Iowa. There were fourteen of us traveling in two vans. We left from Cedar Rapids, Iowa and visited Burr Oak, Pepin, Walnut Grove, De Smet, Independence, and Mansfield. The tour ended at the Herbert Hoover Library in West Branch, Iowa. George and I had previously been on four cruises, but this tour was better than any of them. I wanted to go again; but they dropped the study tour.
Historical Society in De Smet, South Dakota.
I started thinking about how much I enjoyed being with other Little House fans and the joy I had always felt over the years when planning trips for our family. The idea of starting a tour company seemed like something meant for me. I mentioned it to George while we ate breakfast one morning in February 2000. His reply: "Go for it." By the end of the month I completed the paperwork and had a company, Little House Site Tours, LLC.
Q: What were some obstacles to starting your business and what were you pleasantly surprised to discover?
There were so many hurdles that I never anticipated but there were also some friendly people along the way who offered me advice. The first, and most important hurdle, was getting commercial insurance. While shopping for a van, I was fortunate to meet a nice lady salesperson who gave me excellent insurance advice. I have always appreciated that.
Playing pioneer games at the Ingalls Homestead in De Smet, South Dakota.
On the 1998 Study Tour, I met a wonderful Laura friend, Trini. She was the one who made my first brochure and guided me in the right direction for a website. Both were new ventures for me at the time. Finding a van and getting a chauffeur's license were also new things; but went well. My husband agreed to join the business, got his chauffeur's license, and was excited about everything after his first tour.
People at all the Little House Sites were friendly and helpful from the very beginning. They had excellent guides ready for us upon our arrival. They also provided me with a lot of information that was particularly helpful during those early tours when I often got questions I could not answer.
Q: What types of tours do you offer and what locations do you visit?
In the beginning we offered only van tours. These tours were limited to adults because of commercial insurance rules. In 2005 we began conducting Caravan Tours where everyone drives their own vehicle and we travel together. This made it possible for all ages to come – families and also friends who wanted to be in the same vehicle. Little House Site Tours takes care of the lodging arrangements, admissions, a group picnic, and the farewell dinner.
Wading in Plum Creek in Walnut Grove, Minnesota.
We also offer Private Tours, which provide the opportunity for participants to choose their starting and ending locations and list the places they would like to see. We have enjoyed doing private tours for people from England and Japan. We are available to do private van and caravan tours for people of all ages and interests.
Tour group from Japan enjoying a picnic in Mansfield, Missouri.
Q: Who joins your tours and where do they come from? Do you have a favorite story or memory from one of your tours that you can share with us?
We get Laura fans from many backgrounds; but all get along so well. We have a get-acquainted meeting our first evening and usually the children jump in the pool after the meeting. One tour had people from Japan, the Netherlands, and four different states. They were like a "family" within a few hours. One of my favorite memories is looking back in the van and seeing people from the Netherlands and Japan comparing their paper currency. Many tour participants have returned for a second, third, and fourth time since we offer several different tours and make changes every year.
Tour group from the United Kingdom in the schoolhouse near Independence, Kansas.
Q: What other services/products do you offer to Laura Ingalls Wilder fans?
When the Little House Site Tours Company was formed in February 2000, writing books and making DVDs was the last thing I ever expected to do. Somehow I got an idea that a verse book would be fun to write. Then George and I ventured to write two more books. Now we have the following books: 100 Verses About Laura Ingalls Wilder, Exploring the Homesites of Laura Ingalls Wilder, and Laura Ingalls Wilder and the Family Journey. In 2016, we hope to publish a revised version of 100 Verses About Laura Ingalls Wilder.
Our first DVD, "Visiting the Homesites of Laura Ingalls Wilder", did so well that we decided to expand it in length and add more historical photographs. This resulted in the 60-minute DVD, "Discovering the Homesites of Laura Ingalls Wilder". We have taken thousands of photos and have used some of them to make photo-related items like notecards and prints suitable for framing.
Q: What do you enjoy most about your business and what are your plans for the future?
The opportunity to meet people from all over the world is something that George and I never expected to do during our retirement years. Making lifelong friends with many Little House fans has been very gratifying. Seeing these people come in from all over the world, and then get together again a year later in their own countries, has been a great experience. In recent years we have also enjoyed doing Little House programs for libraries and conferences.
Rope making at the Ingalls Homestead near De Smet, South Dakota.
We plan to continue doing tours, writing books, and making DVDs, as long as we have good health.
Barbara Hawkins was born in Detroit, Michigan, the oldest of three daughters. Her father was a tool and die maker at Chrysler Corporation. When she was in the third grade her family moved to a rural area of Mt. Clemens, Michigan. Her mother became part of the County Library staff and remained there until her retirement. At Mt. Clemens High School, the teachers kept telling Barbara to further her education after graduation. She went on to receive her bachelor and masters degrees from Michigan State University. She and George met in high school and were married while students at MSU. They have three children and five grandchildren. You can learn more about Little House Site Tours by visiting Barbara and George's website.
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Rebecca Friendly
Rebecca was one of the driving forces in developing and launching the Little House on the Prairie® website. She is committed to preserving Laura Ingalls Wilder's legacy and meeting fans from around the world. Currently she oversees Communications and Corporate Affairs at Age of Learning, Inc., helping to expand their Education Access Initiatives. She lives in Los Angeles with her husband and enjoys hiking and gardening.
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DeLinda says
I am a HUGE fan of Laura Ingalls Wilder and would enjoy tourist information and location of any places to tour. Thank you
Connie in Colorado says
Well Done! Barb and George are inspirational as they've developed the LH Site Tours over the years. Even though I've not been on one of their tours, we've shared stories, travel ideas and our love of traveling to Laura-land. Best wishes for a great new season of tours!
Christine lopez says
This sounds amazing!!!
I love little house on the prairie . I watched it as a child with my parents and then my kids watched it with me and their kids now watch it with their parents and I also watched it with my grandkids and now every night I watch it with my mom. It is so sad when you hear of any of the cast members that pass away. So many are now in heaven but their fans will love them forever . I just wish I would have had the chance to meet Michael Landon and of course mr Edwards. I do hope one day I could meet nelly Laura and mrs Olson . Thank you for this wonderful page
Beth Brown says
I remember reading about Laura in grade school. Then watching Little House On The Prairie. I would like itourist nformation. Location of places to tour.


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John Lewis DROPS plans to build 12 affordable homes in Hampshire village due to locals' complaints
November 7, 2021 Dianne Reeves Online news
Homeowners have won a battle against retail giant John Lewis after they stopped the building of a dozen affordable homes.
The retailer was forced to scrap the development after it said there was 'a significant level of opposition to the scheme' in a letter to the parish council.
Locals feared the development of the 12 new house was too big and would bring an increase in traffic.
Many young people in the area had hoped John Lewis's plan would create affordable housing in an area they wanted to live in.
The average property in Longstock, where John Lewis also has a farm shop and a café, was £1million in 2020, an 8% increase in the past five years.
A group of ageing homeowners in Longstock (pictured) has won a battle against retail giant John Lewis for control of their village as they stopped the building of a dozen cheap homes
John Lewis already owns a cafe and a farm shop in the village of Longstock, where it had hoped to build 12 affordable homes
Almost half of Longstock's population are aged 40 to 69 out of a total 475 people, an average higher than in the rest of the borough.
The company had planned to build the homes with the parish council and Rural England, although was not going to develop them directly.
A John Lewis spokesman said it was 'committed to finding a solution to deliver affordable housing' in the area and it was currently considering alternative sites.
'The decision not to progress with the Church Lane site is not one we took lightly.
'There was not a clear local majority in support of the development, which is a key measure for us and something we promised to adhere to given our heritage here and role within the village.'
The company's chair, Dame Sharon White, had hoped to build 12 new homes to rent out in Longstock, Hampshire, in a bid to rely less on retail and more on letting out social housing.
Last year she made clear her intention to make 40 per cent of profits in the next ten years outside of retail shops.
The company has a large property portfolio in the neighbouring village of Leckford, Hampshire
Even the Conservative MP for Romsey and Southampton North Caroline Nokes backed the plan in May.
She said one of the main hardships for young and older people alike in the village was to have affordable housing available.
The John Lewis partnership hopes to develop 10,000 homes to rent out in the next ten years as part of that plan.
Although John Lewis cut its losses in the past year by a whopping £606million from £635million in September 2020 to £29million in the same month this year, the company remains in £1.7billion of debt.
Much is resting on bumper Christmas sales after it posted a £29million loss in the first half of 2021.
Their recent strife, caused by the pandemic sending retail plummeting, only cemented their vision to step back from the retail business in favour of real estate.
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9 Reasons Why You're Bruising Easily
Scratching your head over bruises you don't remember getting? Maybe you find yourself wondering, Why do I bruise so easily?
Bruising occurs when blood vessels burst and leak blood under the skin's surface. It's usually due to an injury to muscle and connective tissue. Pooled blood forms an ugly blemish that changes color and gradually fades away as the collected blood gets reabsorbed into the body.
Sometimes these black-and-blue marks pop up with little or no provocation, although clinicians say there's usually a perfectly good explanation or a treatable underlying cause.
"If it bothers you–if it recurs or it occurs and you can't explain it and you're concerned, or you have a family history of a problem–then you should see somebody," advises Margaret Ragni, MD, MPH, professor of medicine at the University of Pittsburgh and director of the Hemophilia Center of Western Pennsylvania.
Here are some common reasons that you may be bruising easily–and what you can do about it.
You're very active
Whether you're a competitive soccer player or a weekend warrior, you're bound to get bumps and bruises if you come into contact with other athletes or gear at the gym. It's not a big deal unless "you're worried about how your legs look while you're out on the beach," Dr. Ragni reasons. "But if you don't really care, I don't think it's going to hurt you to have a bruise here or there."
Minor bruises don't require treatment. For significant bruising due to a fall, jam, or blow, try the classic RICE method: rest, ice, compression (by wrapping the injury), and elevation (lifting the injury to a level above the heart). This will help reduce bleeding, pain, and swelling.
You're aging
Older folks' bodies don't bounce back from injury like those of younger adults, so even a minor bump or grab on the arm can leave a bruise.
"As we age, our skin and blood vessels become more fragile; we lose collagen, elastin, and some of the subcutaneous fat that cushions and protects our small blood vessels," explains Suzanne Friedler, MD, a dermatologist at Advanced Dermatology PC in Manhattan.
For a fresh injury, try the RICE method. "It may initially help a bruise from worsening, but it rarely has a benefit on a bruise after the first 24 hours," Dr. Friedler says. "After that time, heat can sometimes help the bruise clear up faster."
Your skin is sun damaged
Many years of sun exposure can weaken blood vessel walls, contributing to a type of bruising in older adults known as "actinic purpura" or "senile purpura"–unsightly purple patches that occur on the backs of the hands and forearms without much of a bump or injury. (Aging and use of certain medications can also cause these bruises.)
The American Osteopathic College of Dermatology says topical creams containing retinol or alpha-hydroxy acid may be useful in reducing the appearance of these bruises, while wearing long sleeves and avoiding trauma to the hands and arms may help prevent bruising in the first place. And, it's another reason to become a lifelong user of sun protection!
You're taking blood thinners or painkillers
Taking the blood thinner warfarin or using nonsteroidal anti-inflammatory drugs (NSAIDs) like aspirin and ibuprofen can lead to easy bruising, especially in older folks who are frequent users of these medicines.
NSAIDs and blood thinners block the normal function of platelets, a component of blood that binds to other clotting factors to stop bleeding, explains Dr. Ragni, who is also a spokesperson for the American Society of Hematology. While popping a pill now and then probably won't cause a bruising problem, long-term use could be the reason you're bruising easily.
Consult your doctor before stopping any medication.
You're on steroids
Do you have asthma, COPD, eczema, or rheumatoid arthitis? Easy bruising may be a sign that you're taking corticosteroids, a common treatment for these and other diseases.
Whether you're using an inhaler, taking pills, or applying a topical version of these powerful anti-inflammatory drugs, bruising is a common side effect. Long-term use, especially at more potent doses, can cause skin thinning.
If bruising is an issue, talk to your doctor about whether to stick with your medication regimen or switch to another drug.
Your blood platelet count is low
If bruises seem to appear for no reason, it could signal you were born with a platelet disorder. Platelets are crucial because they help form clots to slow or halt bleeding.
"You can either have an insufficient number of platelets, or your platelets don't work normally," Dr. Ragni says.
It's rare, but pregnant women may develop thrombocytopenia, a low platelet condition, and one of the first signs can be a bruise. "That's the sort of thing a hematologist could help you sort out," she says.
You have bleeding disorder
Bruising in and of itself may not be a big deal. But when it's accompanied by other symptoms, like heavy periods, nosebleeds, or excessive bleeding after surgery, then you might suspect something more than just accidental bruising. "It's the company it keeps, the frequency that it occurs, even the severity by which it occurs," Dr. Ragni explains.
The most common bleeding disorder, called von Willebrand disease, is a genetic condition caused by a missing or defective clotting protein, according to the National Hemophilia Foundation. It affects up to 1% of the population.
People with bleeding disorders require specialized treatment, beginning with a thorough evaluation by a hematologist.
Your liver is hurting
If your liver is diseased or damaged, there may be fewer platelets circulating in your blood than you need for normal blood clotting, and that can cause you to bruise easily, Dr. Ragni says. Many things can cause liver damage, from hepatitis C infection to alcohol-related liver disease.
You could even have a liver disease and a bleeding disorder. "You want to have a very thorough evaluation to make sure you're not just attributing [bruising] to drinking and liver disease when it may be something else entirely," Dr. Ragni says.
You could have blood cancer
Easy bruising could be a sign of blood cancers such as leukemia or lymphoma if it occurs with other signs of illness. These cancers cause many different symptoms, including fatigue, swollen lymph nodes, and bone or joint pain. Find a hematologist who can evaluate your symptoms.
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BURBANK.GOV
Helping Burbank residents and visitors seamlessly access the information they need
Burbank.gov is where City of Burbank residents go to access all information and services provided by the city. Everything from building permits, to trash pick-up, to parks and recreation information lives on this site. Tourists and visitors also use the site to find travel information and recommendations.
My Role: UX and UI Design
Client: UX Design Collective (agency) and The City of Burbank
There were many problems with the Burbank site. To begin with, it was cluttered, had no discernable organizational hierarchy, and the prominence of the different functions did not match their level of importance. From a design perspective, the site looked old and out of date. We also spoke to users, content creators, and administrators of the site, to hear their views on the user experience.
Before: Original Burbank.gov homepage
Overwhelming amount of content
Users often can't find what they're looking for, or it takes a long time
Search function doesn't work well; users use Google to search the site
Site organization is not clear
Page is hard to scan
Text is too dense
Info is often out of date
Promoted content is often not the most important content
Users said:
Site administrators and content creators said:
All departments reported that updating the site is time consuming and difficult
There are a limited number of templates and modules to meet their needs
Preview is not accurate
Citizens are directed to many different departments and people
Since content creators are not designers, they need examples and guidance or automation
Myself (UX and UI Design)
Development (outside agency)
The goal was to create a more modern looking site that conveyed the vitality of the city, while providing easy access to the wide range of information, tasks, and services contained within the site.
Iterative Cycle
Throughout the design process, we had bi-weekly check-ins with representatives from each Burbank government department (Information Technology, Parks & Rec, etc) who would look closely at the layout to make sure that it would be able to accommodate the unique programming and content needs of their department. These meetings provided valuable feedback which we could then incorporate into the design cycle.
Get Feedback from Burbank Content Creators
Design Wireframes
2. Visual Design
The look and feel of the site was steered by Burbank's new logo and branding, which relied heavily on gradients, and triangular elements, or "Play" buttons. However I wanted to make sure that the site felt open and airy, so it was important that these branding elements served to support, not overwhelm the functionality
Improved Search function is now front and center
Large hero image of Burbank sets an open, airy tone for the site
All services and links to services are grouped into one central area, and differentiated from other content through the use of graphic treatment, including icons, gradients and color.
Top 5 services are surfaced on home page
Featured content is now grouped together, centralized, and given a consistent design treatment
The Burbank Homepage, and any other pages that are not department-specific, use a consistent, recognizable palette
Burbank's visual branding is implemented in a way that is distinctive, but doesn't overpower the site navigation and functionality
3. Design Elements
To build a design system for the site, I followed the principle that different types of information needed to be graphically differentiated so as to make the pages more "scannable." A user shouldn't have to read dense text to find where they need to go. A prime example of this was the use of icons within a gradient circle to denote links to key services.
To distinguish key city services from browsable editorial content, I gave them a distinct graphic treatment, using icons, color and gradient circles.
As seen on mobile
" The colors are so soothing"
In other areas of the site, icons were used as a way to for the user to quickly locate different departments.
" I love the photo
of Burbank"
Burbank Main Palette
The main palette, based on the Burbank Logo, was used to signify global navigation and elements.
Examples of 3 Department-Specific Palettes
Any content or navigation that pertained to a specific department was denoted with a department-specific palette.
3. Hi-Fidelity Prototype
I created a hi-fidelity prototype in Figma in order to get a sense of how the interactions and flow of the site would feel to a user. We used the prototype for internal testing, and eventually for user testing.
We conducted one-on-one user testing with 17 Burbank residents over Zoom. We assigned one of five main user personas to each of the subjects, and then asked them to complete a set of tasks specific to that persona. We observed them as they tried to complete each task, and asked them to narrate their experience as it was happening. After the tasks had been completed, we asked them follow-up questions, which prompted them to go into more detail about their experience navigating the prototype.
Feedback & Insights
The feedback we received from Burbank users was very positive. They loved the feel of the site, and found it very easy to navigate. However the user testing was still very informative in terms of alerting us to some fine-tuning that still needed to be done. Some of the suggested revisions:
• Make everything smaller so that there is more content visible on first load
• Move utility nav closer to main nav
• Make it clear that top-level nav items, and not just their sub-items, are clickable
• Make the link to "All Services" more prominent
• Apply departmental color coding to the calendar items
These were all valuable pieces of feedback. After user testing was complete, I incorporated the findings into the final product.
Burbank Citizens...
• Loved the new look of the site
• Found it much easier to find what they were looking for
• Felt the site gave a more accurate representation of Burbank
• Discovered services they had not known about
• Said they were much more likely than before to use the site regularly


2019 PGA Betting Picks: Northern Trust
The major season is done and dusted in the 2019 PGA Tour and now the best players in the world will battle it out in the three week FedEx Cup playoffs for a monster first place prize of $10,000,000!
The playoffs kick off this week with the Northern Trust and climax with the Tour Championship in a few weeks! We kick off our playoffs preview as we take a look at the event from Liberty National Golf Course this week.
2019 Northern Trust Betting Picks
Fed Ex Playoffs Format
The 2019 Fed Ex Cup will have a new format this year as the event continues to involve. It will feature just three events instead of the traditional four, kicking off with the Northern Trust this week before the BMW Championship and Tour Championship in following weeks.
The 125 player starting field for the Northern Trust will get cut down to just 70 players after the first event and again to just 30 players after the BMW Championship. The remaining 30 players wil be given a handicap for the Tour Championship, with the top ranked player starting the tournament at 10 under par and the rest of the field staggered down to No.30 who will start at even par.
The winner of the Tour Championship will win the Fed Ex Cup and the monster $10,000,000 prize that comes with it.
The Liberty National Golf Course in New Jersey was built in 2006 and reportedly cost around $230 million to create, making it one of the most expensive golf courses in the world. It has hosted some key events over the past decade, including two previous Fed Ex Cup playoffs events (The Barclays) and the 2017 Presidents Cup, which was won by the United States.
The course plays as a 7,370 yard, Par 71 and has a strong links feel with it located right on the bank of the Upper New York Bay. There are generally some strong winds in play off the Atlantic Ocean and as all links courses, good course management will be paramount this weekend. We'll be targeting strong players in strokes gained off the tee and on approach.
The field for the Northern Trust is a simple one. Players have accumulated points through performances in various events throughout the PGA Tour season so far and the top 125 players in the Fed Ex Cup points rankings will make the start in the Northern Trust.
Brooks Koepka is the only player to have picked up three wins this season and in turn sits atop the leader board. There are three other players who have two wins this season, Rory McIlroy, Matt Kuchar and Xander Shauffele, who all earned themselves places in the top four.
How can you look much further than Brooks Koepka here. While he has looked a little disinterested in some of the lower ranking tournaments so far this season, the No.1 player in the world has been nearly unstoppable in the big events. He became just the fifth player in history to finish in the top five of all four major championships in one year and is in some great form after his win at the WGC-FedEx Invitational two weeks ago.
Koepka loves playing in New York, as displayed by his win at the PGA Championship at Bethpage Black earlier this year and will be keen to bounce back from an ordinary performance in the Fed Ex Cup playoffs last season. He is the best golfer in the world at the moment and will certainly be in the mix come Sunday.
Pick: Brooks Koepka to win +850 at FanDuel
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CAPSULE: NINJA SCROLL [JÛBÊ NINPÛCHÔ] (1993)
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DIRECTED BY: Yoshiaki Kawajiri
FEATURING: Voice actors
PLOT: Masterless samurai Jubei joins with an ancient spy and a cursed female
ninja to thwart a plot by an old enemy to overthrow the Tokugawa shogunate with the assistance of the eight Devils of Kimon.
WHY IT WON'T MAKE THE LIST: It's not truly weird, though the Devils of Kimon are novel and bizarre to Western eyes. Ninja Scroll is, rather, a well-made fantasy adventure set in a magical feudal Japan, with gratuitous sex and violence that make it inappropriate for the age group most likely to be entranced by it.
COMMENTS: There's no scroll, and the main character, Jubei, is a ronin (former samurai now for hire as a mercenary) rather than a ninja; but, accuracy of title aside, Ninja Scroll is an average fantasy adventure with some shocking scenes and startling artwork. Jubei is an archetypal wandering folk hero, helping out the less fortunate out of a sense of duty to mankind rather than avarice. His eventual companions are a more interesting lot: a withered, gnomelike spy from the court of Tokugawa who's willing to go to any lengths to trap others into working for him, and a virginal ninja woman under a sexual curse who's even more of a loner than the ronin. The story, often the red-headed stepchild of anime, is a strong point here. The intrigues between the various feudal factions and the character's backstories are richly detailed, yet free of plot holes and surprisingly easy to follow (although Jubei's code of honor can be difficult to penetrate at times). Even if you don't catch all the intricacies of the plot on a single viewing, the basic strands—a quest for vengeance on a wicked old enemy, a succession of monstrous antagonists to defeat, reluctant companions with crossed agendas, dilemmas of honor and loyalty—create a familiar heroic context for the tale that makes it easy to pick up the gist of things. The animation style is naturalistic rather than stylized (that is to say, the characters don't have huge round eyes and bizarre hair hues). As is frequently the case in amime, which tends to be cheaply produced, the animation is not fluid— most of the time, it's almost a series of stills, with characters standing stock-still, moving only their lips. But the frame rate picks up dramatically for fight sequences, and excellent editing creates a sense of movement that makes the fight scenes thrilling. There are points where the animation overcomes its budgetary limits and becomes magical, as when Kagero stands in the eye of a swirling cyclone of bees and rose petals. The Devils, partly drawn from Japanese mythology, are as grotesque a gallery of rogues as you could hope to find outside of the Mos Eisley cantina, and a good deal nastier. There's a giant with stone skin and a taste for rape, a snake-woman who stashes a spare serpent in an unusual hiding place, a dwarf who births wasps from the hump hive on his back, and one Devil is even a homosexual with the hots for the archvillian. The frequent sexual content is sometimes erotic—the nude tattooed snake woman—but mostly gratuitous, as when one clan master delivers his directives while delighting himself inside a village geisha. The violence is also extreme; monster rape, daggers in eyeballs, showers of blood, limbs torn off, and a man whose head is repeatedly bashed into a bloody pulp. The strong (falling just short of 'extreme') content adds some cachet to the fantasy film for a certain age group (evidence that this ninjas vs. monster tale isn't just "kid's stuff"), but it serves little other purpose. The truth is that the younger, and more male, you are, the more likely you are to groove to Ninja Scroll's beat. It starts out as a five-star spectacle of awesomeness in your teens and early twenties, but you can expect to subtract a full star for every decade of life that passes until it flattens out and reveals itself as nothing more special than a darn good adventure yarn. And the world could certainly use a few more of those.
Animator/director Yoshiaki Kawajiri was also responsible for the anime standout Wicked City (1987) among others. The British censors understandably cut some of the rape scene for the original UK DVD release, but unexpectedly also removed two scenes with shurikens (throwing stars), apparently believing they constituted "imitable weaponry." The cuts were restored for the 2004 release and the movie is now uncensored.
WHAT THE CRITICS SAY:
"For those more accustomed to Anime or Japanese cinema in general you really won't find anything new or ground breaking here… Yet it remains a solid entry essentially on all counts."–Nakadai, Infin-tropolis
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3-Iron (2004) * 3 Women (1977) * 8 1/2 (1963) * 200 Motels (1971) * 2001: A Space Odyssey (1968) * The 5,000 Fingers of Dr. T (1953) * The Abominable Dr. Phibes (1971) * Adaptation. (2002) * The Adventures of Buckaroo Banzai Across the Eighth Dimension (1984) * After Hours (1985) * After Last Season (2009) * Akira (1988) * Akira Kurosawa's Dreams (1990) * Alice [Neco Z Alenky] (1988) * Alice in Wonderland (1966) * Allegro non Troppo (1976) * Altered States (1980) * Amarcord (1973) * The American Astronaut (2001) * Antichrist (2009) * The Apple (1980) * Archangel (1990) * Arise! The SubGenius Movie (1992) * Arizona Dream (1993) * Audition [Ôdishon] (1999) * Bad Boy Bubby (1993) * Barbarella (1968) * Barton Fink (1991) * Batman Returns (1992) * The Beast [La Bête] (1975) * The Beast of Yucca Flats (1961) * Beasts of the Southern Wild (2012) * Beauty and the Beast [La Belle et la Bete] (1946) * The Bed Sitting Room (1969) * Begotten (1991) * Being John Malkovich (1999) * Belladonna of Sadness (1973) * Belle de Jour (1967) * Beyond the Black Rainbow (2010) * Birdboy: The Forgotten Children (2015) * The Black Cat (1934) * Black Moon (1975) * Black Swan (2010) * Blancanieves (2012) * Blood Diner (1987) * Blood Freak (1972) * The Blood of a Poet [Le sang d'un poète] (1930) * Blood Tea and Red String (2006) * Blue Velvet (1986) * The Boxer's Omen [Mo] (1983) * A Boy and His Dog (1975) * Branded to Kill (1967) * Brand Upon the Brain! (2006) * Brazil (1985) * Bronson (2008) * Bubba Ho-Tep (2002) * The Butcher Boy (1997) * The Cabinet of Dr. Caligari (1920) * Careful (1992) * Carnival of Souls (1962) * Catch-22 (1970) * Cat Soup (2001) * Cemetery Man [Dellamorte Dellamore] (1994) * Un Chien Andalou (1929) * Christmas on Mars (2008) * The City of Lost Children [La cité des enfants perdus] (1995) * City of Women (1980) * Clean, Shaven (1993) * A Clockwork Orange (1971) * The Color of Pomegranates [Sayat Nova] (1969) * Come and See (1985) * The Company of Wolves (1984) * Conspirators of Pleasure (1996) * The Cook the Thief His Wife & Her Lover (1989) * Cowards Bend the Knee, or, the Blue Hands (2003) * The Cremator [Spalovac Mrtvol] (1969) * Crime Wave (1985) * Cube (1997) * Daisies [Sedmikrásky] (1966) * The Dance of Reality (2013) * The Dark Backward (1991) * Dark City (1998) * Dead Alive (1992) * Dead Leaves (2004) * Dead Man (1995) * Dead Ringers (1988) * Death Bed: The Bed That Eats (1977) * Death by Hanging (1968) * Death Laid an Egg [La morte ha fatto l'uovo] (1968) * Delicatessen (1991) * Dementia [Daughter of Horror] (1955) * Der Samurai (2014) * Desperate Living (1977) * Destino (2003) * The Devils (1971) * Dillinger Is Dead (1969) * The Discreet Charm of the Bourgeoisie (1972) * Django Kill… If You Live, Shoot! (1967) * Doggiewogiez! Poochiewoochiez! (2012) * Dog Star Man (1964) * Dogtooth [Kynodontas] (2009) * Dogville (2003) * Donnie Darko (2001) * Don't Look Now (1973) * The Double (2013) * Dr. Caligari (1989) * Eden and After (1970) * Eisenstein in Guanajuato (2015) * Elevator Movie (2004) * El Topo (1970) * Enemy (2013) * Enter the Void (2009) * Eraserhead (1977) * Escape from Tomorrow (2013) * Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind (2004) * Even Dwarfs Started Small (1970) * Evil Dead II (1987) * The Exterminating Angel [El àngel exterminador] (1962) * Eyes Without a Face [Les Yeux sans Visage] (1965) * The Face of Another (1966) * The Falls (1980) * Fantasia (1940) * Fantastic Planet [La Planète Sauvage] (1973) * Fantasy Mission Force (1983) * Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas (1998) * Fellini Satyricon (1969) * Female Trouble (1974) * A Field in England (2013) * Fight Club (1999) * Final Flesh (2009) * The Forbidden Room (2015) * Forbidden Zone (1982) * Freaks (1932) * Funeral Parade of Roses [Bara no sôretsu] (1969) * Funky Forest: The First Contact (2005) * Glen or Glenda (1953) * Godmonster of Indian Flats (1973) * Goke, Body Snatcher from Hell (1968) * Goodbye Uncle Tom (1971) * Gothic (1986) * Gozu (2003) * La Grande Bouffe (1973) * Greaser's Palace (1972) * The Greasy Strangler (2016) * Gummo (1997) * Häxan [Witchcraft Through the Ages] (1922) * Head (1968) * Heavenly Creatures (1994) * Hedwig and the Angry Inch (2001) * Hellzapoppin' (1941) * Help! Help! The Globolinks [Hilfe! Hilfe! Die Globolinks] (1969) * Holy Motors (2012) * The Holy Mountain (1973) * The Horrors of Spider Island [Ein Toter hing im Netz] (1960) * The Hourglass Sanatorium (1973) * Hour of the Wolf [Vargtimmen] (1968) * House [Hausu] (1977) * Howl's Moving Castle (2004) * How to Get Ahead in Advertising (1989) * Hugo the Hippo (1975) * The Hypothesis of the Stolen Painting (1978) * I Can See You (2008) * Idiots and Angels (2008) * If…. (1968) * I'm A Cyborg, But That's OK [Saibogujiman Kwenchana] (2006) * The Immaculate Conception of Little Dizzle (2009) * Indecent Desires (1968) * Inherent Vice (2014) * Ink (2009) * INLAND EMPIRE (2006) * Innocence (2004) * Institute Benjamenta, or This Dream People Call Human Life (1995) * It's Such a Beautiful Day (2011) * I Will Walk Like a Crazy Horse [J'irai Comme un Cheval Fou] (1973) * Jacob's Ladder (1990) * Japanese Summer: Double Suicide (1967) * John Dies at the End (2012) * Johnny Got His Gun (1971) * Keyhole (2011) * Kin-Dza-Dza (1986) * Kontroll (2003) * Kung Fu Hustle (2004) * Kwaidan (1964) * L'Age d'Or (1930) * The Lair of the White Worm (1988) * Last Year at Marienbad [L'Année Dernière à Marienbad] (1961) * The Legend of Suram Fortress [Ambavi Suramis Tsikhitsa] (1984) * Lemonade Joe [Limonádový Joe aneb Konská Opera] (1964) * Léolo (1992) * L'Immortelle (1963) * L'Inhumaine (1924) * Liquid Sky (1982) * Lisztomania (1975) * Little Otik [Otesánek] (2000) * The Lobster (2015) * Lost Highway (1997) * Love Exposure (2008) * The Love Witch (2016) * Lucifer Rising (1981) * Lunacy [Sileni] (2005) * The Lure [Córki Dancingu] (2015) * Maelstrom (2000) * Malpertuis (1972) * Mandy (2018) * Maniac (1934) * Manos: The Hands of Fate (1966) * The Man Who Fell to Earth (1976) * Marquis (1989) * Meet the Feebles (1989) * Meshes of the Afternoon (1943) * Metropolis (1927) * The Milky Way [La Voie Lactee] (1969) * Millennium Actress (2001) * Mind Game (2004) * Monty Python's The Meaning of Life (1983) * Mood Indigo (2013) * mother! (2017) * Mr. Nobody (2009) * Mulholland Drive (2001) * My Winnipeg (2007) * Naked Lunch (1991) * Natural Born Killers (1994) * Neon Genesis Evangelion: The End of Evangelion (1997) * Never Give a Sucker an Even Break (1941) * Night of the Hunter (1955) * Night Train to Terror (1985) * Ninja Champion (1985) * The Ninth Configuration (1980) * Nosferatu (1922) * No Smoking (2007) * Nostalghia (1983) * Nothing but Trouble (1991) * November (2017) * Nuit Noire [Black Night] (2005) * O Lucky Man! (1973) * Orpheus (1950) * A Page of Madness [Kurutta ippêji] (1926) * Pan's Labyrinth (2006) * Paprika (2006) * Perfect Blue (1997) * Performance (1968/1970) * Persona (1966) * Phantasm (1979) * The Phantom of Liberty (1974) * Phantom of the Paradise (1974) * Pi (1998) * Pierrot le Fou (1965) * The Pillow Book (1996) * Pink Flamingos (1972) * Pink Floyd the Wall (1982) * Playtime (1967) * The Pornographers (1966) * Possession (1981) * Prospero's Books (1991) * Reality (2014) * The Red Squirrel [La Ardilla Roja] (1993) * The Reflecting Skin (1990) * Reflections of Evil (2002) * Repo Man (1984) * A Report on the Party and Guests (1966) * Repulsion (1965) * Robot Monster (1953) * The Rocky Horror Picture Show (1975) * Roma (1972) [AKA Fellini's Roma] * Rosencrantz & Guildenstern Are Dead (1990) * Rubber (2010) * Rubin & Ed (1991) * The Ruling Class (1972) * Run Lola Run (1998) * The Saddest Music in the World (2003) * Sans Soleil (1983) * Santa and the Ice Cream Bunny (1972) * Santa Claus (1959) * Santa Sangre (1989) * The Saragossa Manuscript (1965) * Save the Green Planet! 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Plump Acquisitions
Gobble! Gobble, fellow Americans! Queue the tryptophan, it's turkey time and you're hopefully enjoying The Chad & Cheese Podcast with a glass of your favorite beer, wine or mead.
On this thankful episode, JZ lands a new gig, ClickIQ is hiding something (probably in their comfy pants) and Cielo enjoys a Visage. Whether your prefer pumpkin or pecan, you're gonna love this week's show.
Clinch Acquisition
Symphony Tech Group sells off First Advantage
Cielo Invests in Sourcing Platform Visage
ClickIQ is Hiding Something
J.Z. and Birch Are On-The-Move
This and lots more. Show our sponsors some love - Sovren, Canvas, and JobAdx.
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Joel: Oh yeah. Gobble, gobble fellow Americans. Que the trip to fan. It's Turkey time and your hopefully enjoying the Chad and Cheese Podcast with a glass of your favorite beer, wine or in Chad's case mead, on this thankful episode Jay-Z lands a new gig, ClickIQ is hiding something, probably in their comfy pants, and we call out this year's biggest Turkey. Whether you prefer pumpkin or pecan, you're going to love this week show. We'll be right back after we pay a few bills. Don't push fast forward Adam Gordon.
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Chad: Oh Yeah.
Joel: Oh yeah. How do we have this much news on a holiday week?
Chad: I don't know, but I am fucking stoked. I am stoked.
Joel: Let's get through the shout outs and, and get to the meat or the Turkey, if you will [crosstalk 00:02:30] of the podcast.
Chad: You got it.
Chad: So the first shout out goes to Fred Durst and Limp Bizkit for reminding us.
Joel: What?
Chad: with their song, "My generation", that Xers had to wade through the same bullshit Millennials and Zs had to face. It was funny cause I was listening to XM radio this week and that song popped up and I'm like, oh fuck yeah, it was like 20 years ago or something like that. Like, oh yeah, I forgot, they called us fucking slackers. They called us, you know, those guys who have no drive and shit like that. It's like this fucking cycle, right? So I don't like Fred Durst, never have, but shout out to Fred Durst and Limp Bizkit for reminding us all, that this is just a cycle of bullshit that everybody has to go through.
Joel: Because we all do it for the nooky, everybody. Shout out to Mason
Wong.
Chad: Happy Birthday!
Joel: A big time fan of the show. He's celebrating a birthday this week, so lots to be thankful for there. Mason, happy birthday buddy, shout out.
Chad: Next time we see a lap dance on Joel. Okay.
Joel: Oh God, does Mason do that? I don't see him as that type of guy but maybe?
Chad: Well, if he's hanging out with us, it's going to have to happen.
Joel: Is the Wong going to hang out with us? Sorry, I couldn't resist that one. Sorry.
Chad: You've been Wonged. Shout out to Adam Gordon for dropping Clippy into the shareholder meeting webinar this week. I thought that was the funniest fucking thing ever. Remember Clippy? Microsoft's little animated kind of like help bot?
Joel: Yeah, we're both old enough to remember Clippy. Although, I'm not sure all of his investors do.
Chad: No. So we dropped that and Adam Godson, he actually shared on LinkedIn what Clippy actually is. For all of those who didn't have the pleasure of meeting Clippy before Microsoft killed that little bastard.
Joel: Nice. So give us some context here. There was a shareholder meeting, I guess from this crowd sourced investment. So I wasn't there but you were. So what happened?
Chad: Yeah, I was. I'm one of the guys, like I said, when it started happening I was like, fuck this, I'm in right.
Joel: Yep.
Chad: So I'm a shareholder. I was also one of the speakers, and Adam was talking about really being able to have a system that would nurture but to be able to do it in more of like an automated fashion. We were talking about how that would happen? Would there be recipes that would already be set up for these marketing campaigns and whatnot? He said, "well yes to an extent, but there were also going to have like this little Clippy Bot that's going to help people through." So that's where Clippy came in.
Joel: You spoke at this meeting?
SFX: That is one big pile of shit.
Joel: I'm going to give a shout out to Chris Russell.
Joel: His daughter was apparently in a big accident, but no one was hurt. [crosstalk 00:05:21].
Chad: Wow!
Joel: He shared a picture of the carnage, quite a miracle that no one was hurt. But, I'm sure he has something extra to be thankful for this Thanksgiving. So Chris a shout out to you buddy. Glad everyone's okay.
Chad: Yeah, love you man. Shout out to Tarquin Clark, our friend over at Google for flaming ERE on Twitter this week and their unsubscribe process. Dude.
Chad: That's exactly right. So here's Tarquin's Tweet. "Dear ERE, you're missing the point on what unsubscribe means." He actually showed a screenshot of an email that he received after he unsubscribed, to take a survey.
Joel: Uh-huh (affirmative).
Chad: ERE the early 2000 called. They want their unsubscribed policy back.
Joel: Yeah. If you get called out by someone at a big company, who has like PR people, that hope you don't do stuff like that. Like that's kind of bad. So yeah. Tarquin man, big pair of balls on you buddy.
Chad: Nice.
Joel: I'm going to give an unashamed shout out to our sponsors. Since it is Thanksgiving. Uh, we don't exist without you. So I won't get into all the names, you can check them all out at Chad Cheese. But certainly here on the weekly podcast, Sovren, Canvas, JobAdX, We appreciate you and shout out to you. Happy Thanksgiving to everyone at those companies.
Chad: That's right check them out at chadcheese.com.
Joel: Dot com.
Chad: Dot com.
Joel: Got to work on that. .io, .ai.
Chad: No. Shout out. Quick list here. Shout out to Jasmine Mijuskovic. Misjuskovic.
Joel: Easy for you to say.
Chad: Misjuskovic. There it is.
Joel: Mi-Juice. Juicy.
Chad: Yeah.
Joel: The juice.
Chad: She's in employment brand over at Public Supermarkets. Tom Kenyon at Allegis. Alastair Shirmer at Live Hire. Aaron Dragushaun at Happy Monday. If that's not his name, Dragon-Shaun. He should definitely change it to that. Yeah, I would change my name to that. Aaron. I would do that. Ben Gledhill at Yodel who gave us a shout out on the Pods that he listens to, we were obviously listed, and Ben, I'm sure you know, we're a sucker for lists. So thanks for the shout out man.
Joel: That's right. You call me Dragon, I'll call you Nighthawk. Stepbrothers reference. My last shout out and I'm sure you agree, is to the Ohio State, Buckeyes. In addition to this being Thanks Giving, it's also a heavy American Football week and the Michigan-Ohio State rivalry kicking off Saturday at noon.
Chad: Beat that team up North.
Joel: Yeah, it's on bitches.
Chad: Beat that team up North and beat them bad. My last shout out goes to one of our sponsors, we don't talk about that much and we should, Disability Solutions for supporting the transcription of the lion's share of our podcasts. It just blows my mind how many people say they are actually use the transcriptions in either reading through why they're listening, or just scanning through just the text itself, or because of SEO, go figure. They want to be able to find podcasts quickly so they just go to Google, put in Chad Cheese and then whatever the topic is or whatever product is or the actual vendor name and it zips them right to one of our podcasts. Thanks again to Disability Solutions for that.
Joel: Yeah. Essentially they are our search marketing solution. Although they're our sponsor and, you're right, people will search Chad Cheese and then a company name to see what we've said about them. So it's a great resource to the community that those guys helped sponsor. So yeah, I echo that shout out.
Joel: Topics.
Chad: Topics.
Joel: This one fresh off the boat, if you will. Hot off the presses. I don't even know what's going on. You talked to Shane. So you, you lay down the news and maybe I'll comment.
Chad: clinchtalent.com, or as they were first known as clinch.io, acquired by ATS PageUp, So pageuppeople.com, people.us here in union in the United States. They are an applicant tracking system that is worldwide but emanating out of Australia. Yeah. But I believe this buy was definitely driven by Battery Ventures who owns a large portion of PageUp. So it's one of those things where your venture company says, "Hey look, we're buying some shit and this is how integrations are going to happen. Yeah, you just, make that happen."
Joel: Yeah, no doubt. I don't know much about PageUp. I assume they have a major presence there Down Under.
Chad: I wouldn't say just your basic ATS, but ATS that is trying to gain market share. Here's a quick quote from our friend Paddy Doyle, who was a CEO of Clinch. "Inclusion of the Clinch functionality within PageUps ATS will enable customers to source and attract the best talent at speed. Both solutions have been designed to deliver a great experience for candidates and recruiters, yada, yada, yada." A lot of this is happening around the acquisitions that we're seeing. Jobvite buys Telemetry. iCims buys Jibe. Symphony buys SmashFly. There are only so many. This feels very reminiscent to Programmatic. There are so many vendors in the space. So if you want to buy an RMP or more of like a Jibe or one of these types of vendors. You had better move fast because they're going quick.
Joel: Congrats to Shane Gray. Obviously.
Chad: Shane and Paddy. Yeah.
Joel: Anyone who's in the industry, probably know Shane,
Chad: Oh Gees.
Joel: One of the nicest people, human beings, you'll ever meet.
Chad: Yep.
Joel: You've definitely seen him somewhere on social media if you're in the community. You talked to him sort of at length in terms of what his role will be now? Will he continued to skip around the globe? Will he be more landlocked? Any news on that?
Chad: I would say you can't keep the hardest working man in Ireland, the UN hell across the entire globe. Shane Gray, you can't keep that man down. That's the thing is that Paddy Doyle, I don't know if there is a name out there that is more Irish than Paddy Doyle, but CEO, Paddy Doyle and Shane Gray, this is a bootstrap team who I guarantee you this was not a clearance rack item.
Chad: Because of the moves that we talked about earlier. This is a validated market. Jobvite buys Telemetry. ICims buys Jibes. Symphony buys SmashFly.
Chad: I mean from my standpoint, I don't see any changes in what Shane does, cause Shane does what Shane does, and that's why you have a guy like Shane Gray in your organization. I can't say that we love that guy to death just because he is such an awesome dude. Not to mention every time we see him, for God's sakes, he's handing us fresh Guinness that he just brought over from Ireland.
Joel: Yeah, that's who this guy is.
Chad: Yes.
Joel: Let me bringing those idiots some beer from Dublin because they love it so much. That's who Shane is.
Joel: If you haven't partied with Shane and Paddy, my God, you have not lived.
Chad: I have a picture, and this is funny now. I have a picture of us in a bar in Ireland with Shane and also Thom Kenney, the former CEO of SmashFly. So that might be one that we have to actually get framed.
Joel: Could I get more Irish than Shane, Paddy and Thom with an H? My God.
Chad: I don't think so.
Joel: Jesus.
Chad: But this makes you think once again we have to ask what is Phenom and Beam Ray's next move.
Joel: Yeah, and how does our buddy at Candidate ID think about all this acquisition stuff?
Chad: This has got to make him excited as hell because he hasn't taken as much money and he's not beholden to work day, like Beam Ray is, or female who's taken a bunch of money as well. So I mean overall the big question is when you're in this space, do you do what Shane, Paddy and Clinch did and really bootstrap the shit out of this and come up with a great product and look for an awesome exit, because you don't have all of this money that you have to pay back to investors, or do you take this shit tons of investment and try to see if you can build a bigger platform out of that? I mean there are many different types of ways to exit. I love what they did.
Joel: Yeah, and by the way, January, 2014 was Clinch's launch date, so that's almost six years in the making, that this has happened. So that's a whole lot of bootstrapping that's been going on. So extra happy for those guys.
Chad: Then we have another acquisition, which I think, on the surface level it doesn't seem that exciting, but I think it is, a PE firm Silver Lake buys First Advantage from Symphony Talent Group.
Joel: For a projected that the numbers weren't released but the whisper number out there is for $1.5 Billion. Which is not chump change. I can tell you from my short period in the background check company, that First Advantages, one of the top three in terms of size, you've got them, you've got Hire Right, and you have Sterling. So you know from a background check company perspective or industry perspective, I think that's sort of certainly interesting. I think in terms of talent or I mean simply focusing resources on other things is interesting as well. Particularly in light of SmashFly coming into the fold.
Chad: Yeah. Well, I think this is a really smart deal for Symphony Talent cause, you know, background screening, drug testing and the lot.
Joel: Total commodity.
Chad: Dude, it's a shit ton of cash. It's very profitable.
Joel: It's a shit tone. It's profitable.
Chad: But that's not their focus. And if you think back in the Findly days when they were trying to become the one platform to rule them all. First Advantage had, or maybe currently has, an ATS, the background checks and they were trying to meld all of that with the user experience in marketing. Findly then having Hodes sell it, seemed to be genius, the problem was execution obviously. Where the rubber hits the road and it just didn't work, and this is another marvelous, I think, decision from Symphony to be able to, and even though it does make a lot of money. Yeah, go get your $1.5 billion out of it. The question is what does Symphony get to do with that cash? What kind of shit do they get to buy now?
Joel: Yeah, get your chat bot ready folks. Get your, you know, whatever else. Get your recruiting robot ready, their tin guy who knows there could be a box for that out there for you. That's probably a long shot. But yeah, I think the chat bot things probably a greater, a greater, a greater chance of happening.
Chad: There are rumblings out there, this is total rumor. HireRight is looking to buy CareerBuilder's background check business so that might, this might actually spur that deal to happen faster. Who knows?
Joel: Yeah. And if you start putting the puzzle pieces together there, we'll, we'll talk about this later, but you've got Paradox who was white labeling, Smashfly's chat bot and Symphony buying, you know SmashFly and if we're looking at predictions for next year, you know, Paradox and Symphony could, could be something to happen,
Chad: could be a wonderful relationship.
Joel: Speaking of level relationships, our relationship with job ad X is as lovely as it can be. Let's get a word from them and we'll talk about Cielo and click IQ.
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Joel: RPO. This is your RP Cielo,
Chad: But, I mean it's tech in. I thought it was interesting because Cielo invests, quote unquote invests in a platform called visage, which is a vis V I S a G E or for Sage and fuck, I don't know. Anyway, bison, this is a crowdsourced sourcing platform, which means it's like a Mike a marketplace, right? So you put in, you put your requisition in and you have all of these source sourcers from around the globe converge and they source for you. So it's on demand. And I thought, you know, is this really a thing? I mean seriously is, is this really a thing when we have bots that are out there, we have algorithms that are out there and what's like the hiring solved and whatnot that we'll do this in seconds,
Joel: which, which by the way, it's probably what the humans that are in this service are actually using to find the people that they're providing for the service.
Chad: Since HiringSolved isn't free anymore, I don't think so. Adam Godson who is like the chief stud tech dude over there. He, he's one of the guys that I always go to talk about tech in the industry, especially from a strategic standpoint because again, RPO recruiting is their business. It's not their job. It's how they make money, right?
Chad: That's different than talent acquisition talent acquisition there. They're professionals, but they don't have to worry about bottom line when it actually comes to placing candidates, et cetera, et cetera. So you're going to go into an RPO and talking to them about tech because it's all about efficiency. It's all about margin, it's all about EBITDA. My question to him was, dude, this doesn't make sense to me. Why aren't you using tech to do this?
Chad: And he that when you're looking at a people aggregator where there's more nuanced matching and better understanding of the actual job, they get better results. And that's what they've seen. They actually did a six month pilots before they started the, you know, the, the, the conversations around investments and they were blowing their numbers out of the water. So AI and the AI matching in some cases does, it is like magic. It's just, it's not there yet.
Joel: So let me get this straight. These guys put visage vice age or whatever. We're calling it through the due diligence and found that people were able to provide greater results than what the automation tools were. Is that what I'm hearing?
Chad: Yeah. Cause they could understand the actual jobs better. Cause if you think about it, one job description from one company is so much different than the other for the exact same type of position. But yet that's a nuance that in many cases an algorithm just can't understand yet. I think it'll get there just can't yet recruiters can, and they have a stable in many cases of candidates and that they can go ahead and start pushing toward these wrecks. And they have around 3,500 sourcers now that are in this community that now has Cielo sourcers in it as well. So I mean they're just really turbocharging what they've already been doing for years.
Joel: One of the things that human beings are able to do is allow these recruiters know the people that they're actually trying to place. They're that good and they know the companies that they're trying to fit in with these people. So there's a culture combination that you don't get with just Hey, match these description words with these resume words and hope that we get it right. I think the nuance, like you said, of the human sort of middleman means a whole lot. And I think it's, I think it speaks quite, quite loudly that Cielo thought enough of a, a human, you know, manual old school technology to, to acquire the company. I think that says a lot about the company as well as maybe Hey humans aren't, aren't done after all.
Chad: Well they haven't acquired it. They just invested money in it to help it grow. Right. To be, to be able to shore it up and support it.
Joel: Soon to acquire.
Chad: Yeah. Possibly. Possibly to have 20 plus clients that, that was a part of this, this pilot. And, and it was funny cause I was chatting back and forth with Adam and he, he likened this to Uber versus taxi and it comes to costs effectively sourcing to meet in the need of an on demand model. So instead of having recruiters that are there that don't have wrecks or sourcers who don't have wrecks to actually work on, it's kind of like turning on and off that spigot. Right? And this is more of a new model for them to be looking at. And again, perspectively for talent acquisition to start at least looking at maybe not in the adoption phase yet, but when an RPO starts to adopt, piloted the shit out of it, they've tested it on multiple clients in this case, 20 not just one. And, and that's an indication, I think a signal to talent acquisition to, to be able to look at these things.
Joel: A mosquito, my libido, way to go. Cielo.
Chad: Boom.
Joel: Click IQ, our Turkey. If you want. What did click IQ do this week?
Chad: What, what didn't they do? So hearing from many sources that click IQ, and this is one of the things that we feared in indeed buying any programmatic player click IQ has turned into an indeed buying house. We actually saw [crosstalk 00:00:24:33].
Chad: that is one way we had screenshots that showed some of their new kind of like user experience, their UI where you go into the main screen and all it shows is indeed in glass door and you have to click out to another tab to get to the rest of your life. Quote unquote job board partners. And most of those quote unquote partners weren't fucking job boards. They're actually aggregators but they were Indeed competitors. Right.
Joel: So you're, are you saying indeed bought someone to create a competitive advantage over everyone else?
Chad: I am saying that.
Joel: That's weird.
Chad: The thing that I'm hearing though. And again, we're, we're, we're still to an extent, this is several sources, but again, just kind of like we haven't validated through Indeed or Click IQ cause they won't return our calls. Yep. Companies like NUGU ZipRecruiter have dropped out of being included in the click IQ platform because of this kind of shenanigan.
Joel: Nice. Nice. So I do love the screenshot of like Glassdoor, Indeed, and then what does it more in or something that it likes to have in the dashboard and then you have to go deeper in into those air minds. Me of about six years ago, Google analytics used to hide some of your keywords and then SEO is freaked out and like there was a whole sort of thing about it. So indeed is historically apt to copy everything Google does. So the fact that they've sort of hidden data from their users does not surprise me because Google did that about six years ago or so. Wow.
Chad: Here's the thing for all of the competing organizations that are out there, and I'm not just talking about the aggregators, I'm talking about the programmatic players that are out there who competed with perspectively, competed with click IQ. Man, this should be your Thanksgiving day. You should be feasting on all of these client and all of these partners that click IQ and indeed are putting into that second fuck you tab.
Joel: I can hear the phone ringing at new BU's, Montreal headquarters right now. Is it a different rig in Canada? I'm not sure.
Joel: I would say, yeah, I still think they have the rotary dials up there.
Joel: Well, they all still have blackberries, I think. I think that's still I kid because I love the Canadians.
Joel: You have to because you're married to one.
Joel: All right, well way to go click IQ. This turkeys for you who's not a Turkey is Sovren. Let's hear from them and we'll, we'll talk about some folks on the move.
Joel: Yeah.
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Joel: On the move.
Joel: On the move. We don't do this very much. So this is, this is a big deal. Listeners.
Chad: Yeah. These are, these are, these are a couple of big moves. SmashFly CMO, Josh Zywien, a friend of the show. He's going to the bots, man, he's a Jay Z. It's match Y and we'll be coming to a chat bot company very, very soon.
Joel: And if my prediction is right, going back to symphony talent very, very soon.
Chad: Possibly. Yeah.
Joel: Yes. Yeah. Like I said symphony SmashFly a paradox chat bot. Yeah. And connect the dots. Yeah. But JZ, a great guy, I'm obviously very close with the paradox folks, so can't speak more highly of either one of those. So that'll be a fun relationship to watch heading into next year.
Chad: Well, and JZ, I mean the self, admittedly he is a builder. He loved the startup kind of like atmosphere of, of SmashFly. Not that that's going away with symphony, but you know, he was, he was lured away by another really compelling story. If you think about it, I mean, chatbots are hot right now, shit. And to be able to not really jump ship because they're still white labeled into SmashFly, but to be able to get into an organization you know a lot about because you did have such, you know, close partnership with developing Emerson, you know, it's, I think a good move. So good for him and definitely good for Aaron who needs a smart guy like a JZ to keep him straight.
Joel: Yeah. And I think that it, I think it speaks highly of paradox who, let's face it, JZ probably could've gone just about anywhere. Yeah. And to pick paradox, I think, you know, speaks highly of them.
Chad: Well and I think JZ, if he was there before the whole Madonna McDonald shit wouldn't have went down like it did. Just saying.
Joel: You just had to bring that up then.
Chad: Yeah. It's not my fault, dude. It's stupid. Anyway, now, now SmashFly is left in the very capable hands of Elise merrier, whom we've been working with and the Colt brand podcast and also got a pimp out to that. We're, we're going to be doing some stuff with SmashFly at The Cult Gathering in bang-up in February. Yeah, I mean we're, we're really stoked about that. And again, if you're in branding, employment, branding and marketing in our space and talent acquisition, HR, whatever, right? This is the time that you, I believe, need to start bridging over into the big branding conversation and big marketing conversation and go to Banff in February, the number one rated branding and marketing conference in the world by Forbes. If you hadn't got your tickets, go to CultGathering.com and get your damn tickets because we're excited to go.
Joel: All due respect to SmashFly and symphony aren't going to miss a beat cause Elisa's bad ass.
Chad: She has pretty bad ass. Yeah, there's no question. There's no question. And then our, our second movement here is you probably all know Birch Faber with your CMO texture crew. A little company that it was one of the, I think very first that really set the alarm bells off around texting chatbots and got everybody excited. I mean Dan got everybody excited, don't get me wrong, but that was 26 fucking billion dollars. We're talking about an organization like text recruit to get acquired by an organization like ice hymns. That was a big change in the market and Birch was one of the guys that actually made that happen. He is now the CMO over at our friends at XOR, Aida, Aida at XOR. Another chat bot,
Joel: Another chat bot. Yeah. So a no surprise chatbots are priming themselves for a big 2020 and bringing in some heavy hitters on the marketing side isn't going to hurt any.
Chad: No, I w and didn't they just receive like $9 million in investment?
Joel: Yeah, they got money, I'm not sure. And they moved to San Francisco and yeah. Yeah. So
Chad: yeah, I think, I think they, they've already received like two investment rounds, but anyway, good on JZ. Good Birch, great stuff to be able to see me like it. Organization like XOR, very small, starting to rev their engines. This again is an indicator a Birch has already been there, done that with an acquisition, with a witch, with a core platform. What do you think? What do you think XOR is trying to target with this type of acquisition? A guy who knows pretty much was on on the train while this was happening.
Joel: Yeah, I mean if he can replicate what happened to TextRecruit, I'd say that'd be really good for zaur, but just specifically the kind of client base that TextRecruit had fits really, really nicely with chatbots. And so to the degree that Birch can replicate what he did at TextRecruit was XOR. I think that's a very good thing for XOR
Chad: That it is congrats.
Joel: well dude, I guess that's our show for today.
Chad: I say, we out.
Joel: We out. Happy Thanksgiving everybody.
Chad: Happy Thanksgiving.
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