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You don't want to be in small rooms. They're claustrophobic and you don't get to grow. | mary | en-za | |
And a lot of people are saying the reason why so many people believed Dr. Nandipa and Tabo Besta is because of Pretty Privilege and the fact that they were showing what people like to think looks like success. | mary | en-za | |
They were ahead of the curve. Yeah, they were ahead of the curve. So I mean, like, blogs then are basically the inception of the idea of podcasts now. | mary | en-za | |
Hey, actually, for where I was and the way I thought, it was actually okay. That is the best that I could do. But now I know better. I'm experienced, I've seen better, I've been. | mary | en-za | |
No, you wouldn't, you would struggle. I mean, here's a person who's qualified in XYZ, but then, you know, maybe qualified in accounting or something, and he works at, I don't know, KFC or pushing trolleys at a mall. | mary | en-za | |
You know, like I remember watching you in one of the debates. This was when I was at the Daily Show. We'd watch all of it, obviously. | mary | en-za | |
Like, well, then they're not rebels, are they? I mean, if you've got a leader, you're not rebels. But yeah, people always look for just the new type of, you know. | mary | en-za | |
So your career is not your personal brand, it's just a part of it, really. And you can decide how much you want those two worlds to come together. They don't have to. | mary | en-za | |
Sure, I love that. What a great opening. And so I want to actually get into your upbringing. How was it? I think you're in Dar es Salaam? | mary | en-za | |
But you can say, guys, yo, I'm also poor, but you're wearing Gucci head to toe, and everybody goes, yeah, yeah, this one relates to us. I'm just like, how does this make sense in our country that we're okay with this? | mary | en-za | |
And Simon Peter did. And as he took it back up, he couldn't even carry it because the net was so heavy with fish. | mary | en-za | |
That's beautiful. You know, you know what? I love that you say it's like a dream and it's an imagination, but I think that's what it is. It's a powerful imagination. | mary | en-za | |
Like, there's so much technology that's in place that is innovating the way we do everything. | mary | en-za | |
And I mean, he's like, you know, he's Nelson Mandela. Very funny guy, though, privately, people who knew him, and even publicly sometimes. | mary | en-za | |
when Africans, the African proverb that says, when elephants are fighting, it's the grass that suffers. | mary | en-za | |
And if we can push to plus three percent, plus four percent growth, plus minus five percent, we could address the issue of debt. Um that the issue is economic growth. It's not debt really. What's your response to that? | mary | en-za | |
Talk about whatever they need to talk about. And it's still running till this day. | mary | en-za | |
Can I tell you, those were like some of the hardest years of my life. And one of the things that always would get me at the Daily Show was: you're trying to make a show. | mary | en-za | |
They would never put marketer in their bio. All they'd ever do is put entrepreneur because they wanted the respect and there was no respect in saying you're a marketer in South Africa. | mary | en-za |
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