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1 | daddit | Your son needs to go explain this to congress. |
2 | daddit | "I drink your milkshake. I drink it right up." |
3 | daddit | Absolutely perfect analogy. /u/USER's son for Congress! Hey, it ain't like putting a bunch of 9 year olds in Congress would be any worse than what we have now. Only difference is, when they nuke Madagascar because someone made a silly face at them, we'd totally understand. |
4 | daddit | [deleted] |
5 | daddit | Except the milkshake store that sells the straws is the only store in town. Imagine if there was a second store that also sold straws and milkshakes but didn't pinch the straws. How much longer could the first store get away with that? |
6 | daddit | Alright Comcast... that's the last straw. |
7 | daddit | I suppose in this scenario, a bubble tea straw is google fiber, comcast is maybe a McDonald's straw, and dial-up is one of those coffee-stirrer straws. |
8 | daddit | Fantastic analogy. Do I have your express permission to use this at family gatherings, the bar, FB, etc? |
9 | daddit | So the internet really *is* a series of tubes? |
10 | daddit | /r/thatHappened isn't even this /r/thatHappened ಠ_ಠ |
11 | daddit | For those that still don't understand the analogy: 1) Straw seller / squeezer = your Internet Service Provider 2) Ice cream store = web content provider. (Netflix, YouTube, Facebook, etc) 3) Milkshake = content provided by ice cream store (videos, web pages, articles, blog posts, pictures, Facebook profiles, etc) 4... |
12 | daddit | Nah, you came up with that. |
13 | daddit | Eventually we'll realize everyone in the other countries got free spoons. |
14 | daddit | I'm 8 years old and I am a 90s kid and I 100% agree with this! |
15 | daddit | Everyone in Congress understands what Net Neutrality is; we've got to stop thinking these people are literally stupid. Sure, some may struggle on certain concepts, but I would imagine you don't get into the U.S. Senate without an understanding of core concepts of society. What we are running into here is ideological d... |
16 | daddit | /r/thathappened |
17 | daddit | Did you explain to your son that the Ice Cream store that they want to pay money is not giving free milkshakes? |
18 | daddit | So pirating is like sipping from my friends glass? |
19 | daddit | http://imgur.com/TTsRpog |
20 | daddit | This is a straw man argument. |
21 | daddit | Things that never happened for 500, Alex. |
22 | daddit | My god, it is a series of tubes. |
23 | daddit | Yeah I doubt that he came up with this- good try though, Dad. |
24 | daddit | ISP = Ice-cream Straw Provider? |
25 | daddit | I'm 100% sure that your son didn't say this. |
26 | daddit | Ah yes, the classic 9 year old's discussion on net neutrality. |
27 | daddit | Your son, eh? Looking forward to reading about this later in r/quityourbullshit. |
28 | daddit | [deleted] |
29 | daddit | That is such a straw man argument. |
30 | daddit | You and your son have been submitted to /r/bestof |
31 | daddit | I don't get it. Why is the ice cream store giving away free milkshakes again? I'd be very suspicious of the ice cream shop owner... |
32 | daddit | Now I want a milkshake. |
33 | daddit | I'm convinced that maybe 10% of the people commenting on this issue actually understand the economic principles at work here. OP's son does a good job of summarizing the average Reddit user's oversimplified understanding of a complex issue. |
34 | daddit | My milkshakes bring all the boys the yard |
35 | daddit | Isn't the allegory/allusion here that lobbyists for cable companies are the angsty straw guys who are so selfish and self-serving they only see the dollar sign? |
36 | daddit | So... The Internet actually IS a series of tubes |
37 | daddit | [Perhaps you all should read this](http://www.cnet.com/news/comcast-vs-netflix-is-this-really-about-net-neutrality/) |
38 | daddit | so what you are saying is I need to find a way to ditch the straw entirely and just dunk my head in the vanilla goodness till I drown. |
39 | daddit | I'm no longer confused now. Thanks kid! |
40 | daddit | I think you're full of shit and this never actually happened. What the fuck kind of child would ever explain a topic such as net neutrality to another child |
41 | daddit | That is a good description of one side of the issue, yes. |
42 | daddit | Another one: The ice cream store is making thicker and thicker shakes and the maker of the straw constantly has to re-work his straws but is not allowed to charge the ice cream store for doing this. Instead he has to pass the R and D costs onto the consumer. Problem is the consumer has a thing for thicker shakes and ... |
43 | daddit | Great analogy! I think part of the confusion is that we are really talking about the opposite of net neutrality. Unfortunately, no one has come up with a catchy term for "tiered internet access" |
44 | daddit | What happens when people hear about this all you can eat ice cream deal, and the ice cream store becomes wildly popular, especially the peanut butter chocolate chip flavor? Unfortunately, there are only a limited straws available, and the supply for the peanut butter chocolate chip is so limited, people can only get a... |
45 | daddit | Forget the milkshake, have the tall latte. -Google Fiber |
46 | daddit | Imagine if for some reason you had only 1 or 2 choices from strawproviders. What if you had more straw providers. You could then choose from those that wouldnt pinch your straw. |
47 | daddit | Could you extend it a bit further to explain ice cream stores that have paid the straw man so he doesn't pinch their end? Or how the straw man has his own ice cream available that he won't pinch off? |
48 | daddit | Hmm I wonder if you can use milkshakes as an analogy for other things. Try oil drainage for example! |
49 | daddit | You had me at 'Pretend ice cream stores gave away free milkshakes.' |
50 | daddit | comcast annouces they'll branch to straw production and renting, straws that won't be given back in optimal condition will cause a 550$ fee that will grow by 250% for every day it's not paid |
51 | daddit | Eh, I still like CGP Grey's voice. |
52 | daddit | Imagine all the buffering going on in that straw. |
53 | daddit | Almost, the straw guy says if you buy HIS milkshake, he won't pinch the straw, or if the shop pays him per flavor, he won't pinch for most people, unless he's busy or its a popular day to drink milkshakes, then everyone gets their straw pinched just a little unless they pay a little more. |
54 | daddit | I tried to explain it (to another adult) as we're (consumers) already paying for the content (netflix) *AND* delivery (ISP service). If delivery people charge content providers more, they will simply pass the charges on to consumers. It's not like they will eat those charges. |
55 | daddit | This only explains half the issue. The other half is "what to do about it". One possible method is to have a government regulator tell the guy with the straw how much to charge for the straw, and exactly how much he can pinch it. Over time, the guy with the straws will get his own lobbyists appointed to the regul... |
56 | daddit | Ya he definitely didn't say that. |
57 | daddit | That was far to clear and succinct to be a 9-year-old. It's missing an infinite number of "ahs" and "ums." |
58 | daddit | Is your son Daniel Day-Lewis? |
59 | daddit | Can we please have some cartoonist illustrate this. I think the kid would feel greatly appreciate that! |
60 | daddit | I vote we abandon r/ELI5 and just send all questions to your son. |
61 | daddit | I drink your milkshake. |
62 | daddit | Internet Freedom Act, stop pinching my straw |
63 | daddit | Wait I can happily eat Ice cream without a straw. So wheres the ice cream without the douchebag straw guy? Anyone? Can this happen? |
64 | daddit | Are you sure your wife wasn't knocked up by CGPGrey? |
65 | daddit | Straws are tubes. Analogy checks out. |
66 | daddit | Ah, an Albert Einstein post. |
67 | daddit | You sir, did a good job with that boy. |
68 | daddit | This is the first time I've understood the concept. I hope your son becomes a teacher one day |
69 | daddit | That's awesome-sauce. |
70 | daddit | Still wondering why I pay for cable and still watch gobs of commercials. |
71 | daddit | This is perfect! |
72 | daddit | This is the part where I give the guy the finger and take the lid off my milkshake and eat it with a spoon. |
73 | daddit | I feel like your son may have a bright future in teaching, and I really mean that. Creating simple analogies to help someone relate to more complex ideas is an incredibly effective teaching technique, and he certainly appears to have a natural ability for it. |
74 | daddit | "I drink your milkshake! (sluuuurrrrp) I drink it up!" |
75 | daddit | /r/thathappened |
76 | daddit | TIL how net neutrality works. |
77 | daddit | The straw sellers are just going to reply that they are not pinching your straw, they are just allowing some ice cream stores to have bigger straws if they pay the straw company. (I know there is evidence that they actually did pinch the straw for Netflix, but I feel in general this would be their counterargument.) |
78 | daddit | Oh no I'm sure they understand net neutrality just fine. The problem is that their heads are too far up Comcast's and Verizon' asses to see the light of day. |
79 | daddit | More accurately: You have the free milkshake (with free refills) and the paid straw, but you want to the milkshake faster. So you try to buy another straw and the straw guy says "no". The straw guy is saying "no", because he doesn't want to give you more free refills. EDIT: And the analogy is really about peering a... |
80 | daddit | Your son is smarter than the rest of Reddit combined. That's an excellent analogy. |
81 | daddit | Except now instead of paying the mean straw guy, you'll be paying a guy in a suit from the government who will do the exact same thing but in the name of "fairness." Not much will change on our end, but people will think they won something because the federal government is always more efficient and fair than a corpora... |
82 | daddit | So forgive me for not understanding this and be easy on me but can someone please clarify the actors roles in this? Person drinking the straw is the customer aka you and me. The person selling and pinching the straws is the devil aka Comcast (or another isp) who is the ice cream store? |
83 | daddit | Great analogy, except the milkshakes aren't free and unlimited and the straws connect your milkshake to your lips over hundreds and thousands of miles. Also, there are others who compete to sell you straws and government regulates the straw industry. I see now why so many people are confused on net neutrality. people... |
84 | daddit | [deleted] |
85 | daddit | The only difference, it's not that straight forward. While I fully support net neutrality, what I have been faced with is the fact that when this was passed or being passed the government always finds a way to twist it. The bill submitted gave the government more control and power over the internet, which is what we do... |
86 | daddit | I think he didn't. This analogy vastly oversimplifies the complexity of peering agreements. |
87 | daddit | >And the straw guy says, "I don't care. I just want more money." And the Republicans say wanting more money is good...unless you're a worker who has to buy straws. |
88 | daddit | Yeah, sorry, but your son did not come up with that analogy himself. |
89 | daddit | Expanded a little: I'm hearing a lot of misleading ads and retororic about net neutrality. Here's a pretty good explanation of what net neutrality means from the mouth of a 9-year old: Pretend an ice cream stores gave away free milkshakes. But you had to buy a straw from a guy outside in order to drink them. But that... |
90 | daddit | My straw reaches acrrroooooooooooosss the room. And it starts to drink your milkshake. I drink your milkshake. I drink it up. |
91 | daddit | I'm loving all the long winded responses trying to outdo the 9 year old! |
92 | daddit | Yea this has nothing to do with net neutrality at all. >Pretend ice cream stores gave away free milkshakes. But you had to buy a straw to drink them. But that's okay, because you still get free milkshakes. That isn't quite how it works at all. The ice cream store is the ISP I am assuming here and the straw would be ... |
93 | daddit | The flaw in this argument is that all straws are the same. /awaiting downvotes |
94 | daddit | Lol yeah I bet a fucking 9 year old came up with that. |
95 | daddit | Another analogy (for a different aspect of the Net Neutrality question) that we came up with, my students (I teach 12y.olds) and I, during a discussion on the topic, was based on the idea of a Theme Park. Imagine you want to visit a Theme Park. There's tons of attractions and games, and it's all wonderful. You have di... |
96 | daddit | except it's not a real good analogy. as soon as you have the milkshake in your hands, you can just drink it from the cup, at whatever rate you can. |
97 | daddit | Except it doesn't take 300 pages of regulations passed in secrecy to prevent that. Hmmmmm, what else could be in the regulatory scheme I wonder. |
98 | daddit | Cute. Let me finish that for you: The ice cream store could pay the straw guy $1/mo and then charge $1/mo to you, but they don't think that's fair. Why should their customers have to pay $1 per month? They pay a policeman to rough up the straw guy. From now on the policeman will hover over straw guy and dictate ho... |
99 | daddit | That is a wrong explanation of net neutrality. That is talking about ISP throttling, and otherwise network "management" topic. Net Neutrality is/was a contractual clause built-in to the early peering & transit relationships between two parties who interconnect. This practice started back in the early 1990s, and basic... |
100 | daddit | This has nothing to do with net neutrality. You idiots who think this has anything to do with internet speed and how fast you get your information are too far into the kool-aid to continue to read this post. NET NEUTRALITY is all about the control of information, if you people would read the actual regulation instea... |
MentalReddit
This dataset, dlb/mentalreddit, was created by the DeepLearningBrasil team for the pre-training of their MentalBERTa model.
This model secured the first position in the DepSign-LT-EDI@RANLP-2023 shared task, which focused on classifying social media texts into three levels of depression.
Dataset Description
The MentalReddit dataset is a large collection of English-language comments sourced from Reddit. The data was specifically curated to provide a rich resource for understanding mental health discourse, as well as general language patterns. The dataset is composed of two main parts:
- Mental Health-Related Subreddits: 3.4 million comments from communities focused on mental health topics.
- General Subreddits: 3.2 million comments from a variety of non-depression-related subreddits to provide a broad base of general language.
In total, the dataset contains approximately 7.31 million comments, occupying about 1.4 GB of disk space.
Data Fields
The dataset consists of the following fields:
body: The text content of the Reddit comment.subreddit: The name of the subreddit from which the comment was sourced.id: A unique identifier for the comment.
Usage
You can load the dataset using the Hugging Face datasets library:
from datasets import load_dataset
dataset = load_dataset("dlb/mentalreddit")
Citation
@inproceedings{garcia-etal-2023-deeplearningbrasil,
title = "{D}eep{L}earning{B}rasil@{LT}-{EDI}-2023: Exploring Deep Learning Techniques for Detecting Depression in Social Media Text",
author = "Garcia, Eduardo and
Gomes, Juliana and
Barbosa Junior, Adalberto and
Borges, Cardeque and
da Silva, N{\'a}dia",
booktitle = "Proceedings of the Third Workshop on Language Technology for Equality, Diversity and Inclusion",
month = sep,
year = "2023",
address = "Varna, Bulgaria",
publisher = "INCOMA Ltd., Shoumen, Bulgaria",
url = "https://aclanthology.org/2023.ltedi-1.42",
pages = "272--278",
}
Acknowledgments
This work has been supported by the AI Center of Excellence (Centro de Excelência em Inteligência Artificial – CEIA) of the Institute of Informatics at the Federal University of Goiás (INF-UFG).
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